Quote of the day—Harrison Finzel

With regards to the weak “but there’s illegal guns” argument, mandatory registration would solve this problem. The federal (or state) governments could issue a six or 12 month window to allow people to register their firearms. All of them. This would include currently unregistered guns — this would be a way to avoid punishment for the crime for the moments and to promote more universal gun registration. If you have an unregistered gun in your possession after that point, you should be slammed with a felony that carries a minimum of 3 to 5 years of jail and heavy fines. No exceptions. No loopholes.

Harrison Finzel
September 2, 2015
Now the time to fight tooth and nail for stronger, more intelligent U.S. gun control
[This is a “textbook” case of Dustydog’s Definition. Finzel doesn’t know of the failure of registration in Canada, New York, Connecticut, and many other countries, Haynes v. Haynes says his plan is unconstitutional, no other constitutionally protected right requires registration, prosecution for failure to register is more difficult than he might think, and it can’t be any more effective than a complete ban which is an obvious failure with recreational drugs.

But Finzel is eager to spend other people’s money to engage in violence against peaceful people for no tangible benefit. I have to conclude he has crap for brains.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Chelonia Testudines

There is a clear correlation between gun saturated America and its rates of violence and suicide. We don’t need to legislate away evil – but we sure as heck can legislate their weapons of choice. Melt all confiscated guns, limit gun ownership to those who can pass a proficiency and safety test (like cars) and force the owners to buy insurance for the damage their guns cause. Mark ammunition and trace it. Limit types of guns available and limit ammunition. But – weak cowardly men who can’t be bothered to actually DO something will always throw their dirty hands in the air, shrug their sloping shoulders and grunt “there’s nothing we can do.” Empty headed puppets – like Noir.

Chelonia Testudines
September 1, 2015
Comment to NRA spokesman tells parents of slain Virginia journalists not to be ‘so emotional’
[H/T to Sebastian.

I’m pretty sure this is the same person. I went looking for them because some of the things he said were so outlandish. Perhaps they were deliberately trolling or something. I strongly suspect they are serious because I found similar simple solutions (which have no hope of actually working) to complex problems there.

The proclamations of solutions in spite of an ignorance and lack of the facts, lack of rational though process, and of course the insults are clear indicators they not only don’t know what they are talking about but don’t want to know what they are talking about. They despise private gun ownership and gun owners and no rational argument or facts can convince them we are deserving of respect or even tolerance. They are a prejudiced bigot.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Barbara Parker

There are people out there whose minds we will never change. If you are a parent, if you are a mother, if you have children — how can you look your child in the eye and say we are willing to allow you to be collateral damage in order to keep what some people perceive to be their constitutional rights? If we as a society are willing to accept that, what kind of society are we?

Barbara Parker
August 30, 2015
Alison Parker’s parents on gun-control fight: ‘We cannot be intimidated’
[Answer to the first question: It’s not just a perception of a constitutional right. It is a specific enumerated right which all nine justices of SCOTUS agreed was an individual right. And we can look at our children and say, “We are going to defend your right to keep and bear arms in defense of yourself, your loved ones, your community, and your country even when grief stricken friends and relatives attempt to infringe upon our rights. And we can do that even as we feel and express our sympathy for their horrible loss.” Other than keeping and driving cars is not a constitutionally protected right this is no different than the situation where someone uses their car to deliberately hurt someone else. And in my personal experience this is more common that people using guns to hurt innocent people.*

Answer to the second question: We are a society which knows our rights are important and protect them from violation even when people, overwhelmed with emotion, are unable to think and act rationally.

And I don’t know anyone that wants to “intimidate” these grief stricken people. We just want them to respect us and our right to keep and bear arms.—Joe]


*Ry encountered someone driving straight toward him on the freeway at a high rate of speed. Ry narrowly missed being hit by leaving the freeway over the shoulder. He stopped in the grass beside the freeway, got out of his vehicle and vomited. The driver of the other vehicle continued on down the freeway in the wrong direction, and connected with a semi-truck and killed the driver of the truck.

My cousin Johnny and his friend Lonnie were struck head-on by a car going the wrong direction in their lane. Johnny reported the guy was alert, looking directly at them, and corrected when they took evasive action. Johnny and Lonnie were seriously injured but survived and mostly recovered. The other driver was killed in the attack.

I don’t know any friends or family who were shot by another person other than during military combat.

Quote of the day—Michael @consultmelater

@Rx_Ed I think #gunsense means guns should NOT be sold to people who are bat-shit crazy. That eliminates #2A supporters.

Michael ‏@consultmelater
Tweeted on August 26, 2015
[This is what they think of you and Second Amendment rights.—Joe]

Update: In the comments Michael says:

My comment is being misread. After reading it again I can see how many are thinking that I refered to #2A supporters as bat-shit crazy. On the contrary, my intended statement was that only #2A supporters should be allowed to have guns.

I apologize for the confusion.

Quote of the day—JaredDudley619

We have to fixed this Gun Control problem ASAP!! Gotta get rid of these guns man!! I know it’s political on why we can’t but we gotta try!!

For the people who wanna keep guns in America, give me your reasons? Cuz if we got rid of all guns then there’s no need for protection..

JaredDudley619
Tweeted (and here) August 26, 2015
[“…if we got rid of all the guns then there’s no need for protection”? That’s definitive proof of crap for brains. And who is this “we” that are going to get “rid of all guns”?

And don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Hillary Rodham Clinton

We have got to do something about gun violence in America — and I will take it on.

Hillary Rodham Clinton
August 26, 2015
Hillary Clinton vows to be gun-control president
[It’s good that she is making this very clear. Maybe this will make it a campaign issue as well. With support for gun rights the highest it has been since 1993 there is a good chance this will make it a loosing issue.—Joe]

Quote of the day—brainuser1

By now you have heard about the terrible accident at the hands of a toddler, resulting in the death of his father. What more reason do we need to address the issue of gun control? Better yet, what greater example to envision a society where there are no guns…eliminating these types of accidents?

I can’t help but “go there” for a minute and think (putting this very, very unfortunate accident aside for a minute) how many lives would have been spared if there were no guns to end them. How would differences be settled? What other alternative would police officers take if it were not so easy to reach for their pistol and shoot a suspect?

Maybe we’d go back to the old days of man up…dukes up and fight it out.

I don’t recall many people dying from that, just bloody.

I don’t know about you, but I am sick and tired of people dying from being shot!

brainuser1
August 24, 2015
Toddler’s Fatal Shot of Dad Should Open Conversation About Greater Gun Control
[There are five things I find worth remembering from “brainuser1”.

1) This brainiac apparently can’t imaging there are tradeoffs in lives lost if there were no guns. If there were no guns then there would be only “lives spared”, not lives lost due to inability to defend innocent life.

2) The physically frail or even those just small of stature, in the view of this person, are not worthy of having a chance of defending themselves against large predators.

3) “People dying from being shot” is what is important. Not people dying from evil predators.

4) The specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms is not even on their radar screen.

5) Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.

Make that five and a half things… They have crap for brains.—Joe]

Quote of the day—zippy_w_pinhead

Dear ammosexuals, not all gun owners have teensy, tiny peens- most of them are actually nice normal people with perfectly normal sized genitalia. The ones with the 1/10 scale bonzai boners are you clowns who can’t shut the fuck up about your penis extensions and insist on doing stupid things like parading around fast food establishments with the biggest long gun you can find strapped to your back as you scare the shit out of everyone around you in your nonstop quest to validate your childish concept of “freedumb”. If you weren’t such annoying assholes and a danger to the community thanks to your stupid stunts we wouldn’t have any reason to tease you about your miniature manhood. Millions of sportsmen, collectors and other gun enthusiasts manage to go through life without being pushy, obsessive jerks about guns- the day you idjits figure out how to do so too is the day we’ll quit teasing you about your itty bitty dangly bits.

zippy_w_pinhead
February 12, 2015
Comment to How All Your Favorite Liberal Blogs Muffed The Yoga Pants Bill (Which Does Not Exist)
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

This is what they think of you, freedom, and gun rights activists.—Joe]

Quote of the day—John Risenhoover

If you just shut up, you can beat almost any straw purchase charge.

John Risenhoover
Former ATF special agent
August 21, 2015
Amid Dearth of Federal Action on Straw Buyers, States Forge Ahead on Their Own
[And that will never change without universal gun registration. And of course that is essentially impossible, illegal under the Bill of Rights, would be widely ignored, and if push came to shove the odds of it escalating to something much higher on the force continuum would be very likely.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Sean Quinn

Kelly and Giffords, both gun owners themselves, actually do not support “gun control” in the traditional sense of the phrase. Instead they are in favor of “gun responsibility.”

Sean Quinn
Staff Writer
Essex News Daily
August 20, 2015
Former WO astronaut lobbies for gun responsibility
[It is an interesting sequence of names these type of people use:

The general trend is they used to openly state they wanted to ban guns. Then it was just “control” them. Then it was “prevent gun violence”. Then their goal was “gun safety”. And as of yesterday we know the next deceptive phrase they are going to use to try and infringe upon our specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms is “gun responsibility”.

They should just give it up. We aren’t going to be fooled by this attempt to sucker us either.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Amy Schumer

I just felt the need to get involved because of how personal that event felt and how upset it made me feel.

Amy Schumer
August 8, 2015
Amy Schumer: ‘I Think It’s Money’ to Blame for Gun Control Problem
[I find it very telling that her actions and thoughts are based on her feelings rather than on data and analysis. She is apparently one of those people, as it typical of anti-gun people, who don’t know how to determine truth from falsity.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Steve Bucci

There are a lot of them that aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Steve Bucci
Security expert and former top Pentagon official
August 17, 2015
Price for TSA’s failed body scanners: $160 million
[Never forget that they even have TSA backward. A more accurate acronym is AST (A Security Theater).—Joe]

Quote of the day—David De Santis

No one wants to disarm anyone.
We want to reduce hand guns IN PUBLIC.

David De Santis
June 2, 2014
Comment to Editorial: More gun violence, but not prevention
[Not only is prosecuting people for handgun possession in public infringing upon the “keep and bear arms” section of the Bill of Rights De Santis’s statement is self-contradictory. This conclusively demonstrates it is non-sensical from an epistemological view. This means De Santis does not know what it means to know things.

And yes, he actually wrote that in consecutive sentences. He didn’t write three paragraphs and arrive at a different void in his mind where communication from void A to void B was nothing but static. This had to be part of the same void or else these voids in his mind are so close together they have merged into one.

Apparently Mr. Crap for Brains David De Santis, like many anti-gun people, is nothing but a vacuous noise maker.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Razor

I am so proud of myself. I have exercised true gun control. I went to the gun store and only bought one gun.

Razor
August 14, 2015
Gun Control
[I can see this being considered reasonable gun control when visiting a gun store. But of course it’s self control not government control.

A great many of the political conflicts in this country find their roots in the battle between the individual and the collective. The collectivists think in terms of what the individual should be allowed to do and the individualists think in terms of what the collective should be allowed to do. This conflict was supposedly settled in this country with the U.S. Constitution over 200 years ago and resulted in the greatest nation, by almost any measure, the world has ever seen. We also have numerous collectivists examples to compare with such as the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

The differences in outcomes between the collectivists and the individualists are so stark I can only conclude people that still push for the implementation of the collectivist vision are mentally ill and/or evil.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Cathy Lanier

There’s been a number of changes in gun laws in states all across the United States in the past several years, a number of pushes to purchase these high capacity magazines, for fear that they may not be legally available some time in the future, and now is it possible that now maybe some of those are making their way to the major cities? We don’t know, but for some reason they are showing up in all major cities.

Cathy Lanier
D.C. police chief
August 13, 2015
DC’s Top Cop Accidentally Makes The Case Against Gun Control
[Let me get this straight. Lanier knows that people are buying standard capacity magazines because of laws being passed to ban them. Then she wonders why people in major cities own them?

Does she have a problem with forgetting facts she expressed only seconds earlier when she attempts to ask a question?

As Emily Miller said, “I don’t think the IQ is all that high.”

Let me spell it out for you Ms. “Crap For Brains” Lanier. People in the cities own them in increasing numbers because authoritarians like you are trying to ban them. Stop trying to ban them and there would be less demand for them. And, this is the really important part for people like you to grasp, if you stop trying to ban guns the less likely they are to be used on you.—Joe]