Only one in five gun owners belong to the NRA, so we think there is something else going on than just the NRA when it comes to mobilisation.
September 2, 2018
Gun owners are more politically active, study finds
[The naiveté and lack of rigor here is astounding. Were they paid money to do this “study”?
Vetger and her colleagues need to check their work. A very simple check would have revealed the following:
Most estimates of gun ownership are between 20 and 40 percent of people in the U.S.. And this assumes all gun owners admit they own guns when they are asked by a pollster. It may be much higher than this.
The population of the U.S. is currently about 330,000,000. This means there are between 66 and 132 million gun owners in the U.S.
The NRA claims a membership of about 6 million people. Hence only about one in 11 to one in 22 gun owners belong to the NRA. Unless, you hypothesize the NRA is telling the world they have far fewer members than they actually have. For them to have such a motive escapes me.
Simple arithmetic shows any influence gun owners have must be far beyond the members the NRA influences.Assuming all the NRA’s 6 million members vote and vote as a block for the NRA agenda in an eligible voting population of about 241 million people is only about 2.5%. Sure, some political races are as close or closer than that but that isn’t enough to make a big difference and the assumption they all vote as a block is almost for certain false.
So… if the hypothesis that the NRA is the source of power is of questionable validity how about the hypothesis that gun owners a group independent of NRA members being a source of election strength? 60 to 126 million out of 241 million is about 25% to 50%. Now you are talking about some real power!
Therefore the timid conclusions reached by Vetger can be arrived at, and stated with far more assuredness, with a few minutes of searching on the Internet without going through the grant process and publishing a peer reviewed paper.
I wonder if Vetger and company were among those making projections that Hillary Clinton had a 95% chance of winning the 2016 election. If not then I expect she at least rode the same short bus to school with them.—Joe]
It’s time to stop using video games as a deflection from conversations about responsible gun control. Video games shouldn’t even be in the conversation because it distracts us from the hard truth: easy access to guns is the main reason for mass shootings.
It takes a special train of thought to come to the conclusion that an animated video game is more to blame for shootings than the actual weapon used. Is America really that blinded by their love for the Second Amendment?
August 30, 2018
Video games have no relevance to mass shootings
[It’s interesting how she substitutes one class of objects, video games, which probably didn’t have much of an effect on the mental illness of the perpetrator, for another object, firearms, which certainly didn’t cause the mental illness.
That takes a very special kind of train of thought. At first you might think her train was functioning properly then you find it was going backward.—Joe]
I’m not suggesting we disarm the police or army. Not exactly. But we might want to take a closer look at our culture and try to understand why we’re all so darned gun crazy.
It’s a frontier mentality, I suppose. A couple of hundred years of stealing land and fending off angry natives can really make a culture trigger-happy.
I suggest we start at the top.
I worry about somebody shooting me at the mall, but I worry a lot more about being incinerated by nuclear weapons.
If we’re serious about gun control, we might want to refocus on multilateral nuclear disarmament. To fret about handguns in a world of hair-trigger nuclear weaponry is textbook denial.
August 14, 2018
A new approach to gun control
[I found to difficult to decide if they were this vacuous because they were naturally this way or if they were exhibiting the effects of the readily available marijuana in Washington state.
In either case, they had crap for brains when they wrote this.—Joe]
The gun lobby has long pushed a vision of the world in which anyone could be armed at any time, and in which you need a gun to defend yourself against that constant threat. By inviting the “era of the downloadable gun,” as Defense Distributed has coined it, we’d be one step closer to that dystopian future.
August 3, 2018
The Darkly Twisted Logic Behind The NRA’s Support For 3D-Printed Guns
[The only twisted logic I found in the article was in that of the author. Why do they think that just because anyone could be armed at any time would mean there is a constant threat? In most states and locations in the U.S.it is already the case that someone there could be legally armed at any time. And most of the other locations are covered by the easily probable case of someone being illegally armed. The only way I can make sense of his view is if he is living in some sort of fantasy world.—Joe]
Let’s be clear: gun control is neither gun abolition nor gun confiscation. No one is trying to take away your guns, and no one is suggesting a ban in the U.S., either.
July 26, 2018
Opinion: Gun control is useful, necessary and complicated
[Yes. Let’s be clear. Torchon is extraordinarily ignorant and/or lying. Therefore we can regard everything they say as worthless or evidence of their evil intent.—Joe]
Tweeted by Sam I Am @nmikel:
His twitter profile claims:
Liberal right, atheist, all around smart guy.
The first two claims seem plausible but the above tweet is conclusive confirmation the third claim is in error.
H/T Jonathan @CorrelA_B.
The thrill of target shooting an assault weapon is no justification for allowing these weapons of mass destruction. At a minimum, individuals who possess them should be registered, licensed and taxed. Until that time, their sales should be banned.
July 5, 2018
Kittery Trading Post should engage with community about guns
[The Second Amendment isn’t about “the thrill of target shooting”. It’s about defense against a tyrannical government. Which means that in order to be useful they must, at a minimum, be untraceable and unknown to any government entity.
Hamilton has crap for brains and/or is an activist for the enemies of freedom.—Joe]
If we want to end the carnage, we must advocate for the solution that is required, not one designed to be politically palatable. Instead of shying away from the NRA’s accusation that gun control advocates want to take away their guns, we should embrace it as a mantra.
Let’s clear the air and call for total civilian disarmament. Period.
February 25, 2018
Maine Voices: It’s time for a gun abolition movement
[I find it interesting there is no thought given to how, or who will take away all the guns. And does Mr. Bates have any clue what the cost will be? I don’t think so. I think he has crap for brains.
Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]
A law should be made to ban freelance freight and ban on running open arms. But this law has not passed due to the effect of the influence of the owners and arms lobby in congress of arms manufacturing factories.
June 20, 2018
No Gun Control Legislation -70 People died in 3 days in United States
[This author could be replaced with a relatively simple computer program. Or, quite possibly, he already has been. With these anti-gun people it’s sometimes so hard to tell.—Joe]
Hone in on our intention. This tragedy of rampant gun violence, murder, mass killings – all these terrible, painful things that we are seeking to stop, to put an end to this night . . . . We curse you, merchants of mayhem, profiteers of pain, dealers of death, you who fatten on the blood of innocents and feast like demons on their corpses! May your thoughts and prayers turn to poison in your mouths. May every mother’s cry be a bullet to your heart. May the weeping of children rend your flesh like shrapnel
If there is anything I can do at all that’s even remotely effective, that might be magic,
Documentary film depicts binding ritual on Trump, NRA
[H/T NRA-ILA who offer this perspective:
It kind of makes sense.
We all know that gun control is based mainly on magical thinking.
Salisbury believes himself to be a witch and is using his supposed powers against the the NRA.
At first I wondered, if he believes in his magical powers, why didn’t he use them to stop evil people from murdering others in the future. But then I realized that, of course, a witch aligns against the good people of the NRA. He is on the side of evil.—Joe]
I know what I want, thank you. Buy back & incinerate every civilian firearm. Every single one.
Tony Asaro @TGaucho
Tweeted on February 25, 2018
[Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.
And then this genius came up with a plan to fund it:
Charge registration on legal guns. Use $$ to run buyback program.
Robyn K? @RobynK12
These people have crap for brains.—Joe]
If people own guns to defend themselves against situations like home invasions, they are likely to want them easily accessible and ready to shoot when the unthinkable happens. If the weapons are stored in a safe, separate from ammuntion [sic], that could be marginally more difficult.
June 4, 2018
A Gun Owner Explains Why He Leaves His Pistol Loaded and Unsecured
[“…marginally more difficult”?
When seconds matter your gun and ammunition are only minutes away from being useful.
Deliberate dismissive wording and/or crap for brains? You decide.—Joe]
I’m written about Rachel Dolezal before and she once suggested a more complex label would be appropriate. Well, it appears she has obtained a simpler label:
Former Spokane Chapter NAACP President Rachel Dolezal is now facing legal trouble that could land her behind bars. KHQ has confirmed that Dolezal, who legally changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016, is accused of 1st Degree Theft by Welfare Fraud, Perjury in the 2nd Degree, and False Verification for Public Assistance. Her potential punishment under RCW 74.08.331 could include up to 15 years in prison.
That label would be “criminal”.
It is quite clear fraud is in her nature and has been for quite some time.
They don’t need to prepare . Just ban guns for civilians. Prevention is always better than control. No guns means no mass shootings. Why is it so hard to understand?
May 22, 2018
Comment to Texas school had a shooting plan, armed officers and practice. And still 10 people died.
[vash01 skipped some important steps. For example, before banning guns it would be a requirement to eliminate the Second Amendment. And between banning guns for civilians and there being no guns. There are many others as well.
It appears “understanding” isn’t their greatest strength. In fact, it’s clear vash01 has crap for brains.
Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no wants to take your guns.—Joe]
Raising the age for purchasing guns, eliminating assault weapons and tightening screening for people wanting to purchase guns might be good things. But none of those measures would have prevented this incident. Unfortunately — sadly — we have developed a culture of violence, intolerance and a lack of restraint in personal behavior. Conflicts — on the highway, the internet or in the classroom — too often are addressed by violence or the threat of violence.
We need to find our way to a different approach to both our personal and to the world’s problems. We need a foreign policy in which military threat no longer is considered a reasonable option. In which we seek to understand the viewpoint of others and try to find ways to help rather than to simply expect acquiescence to our demands.
May 27, 2018
Letter to the editor: Culture of violence
[I am perplexed. Could this person really be this naïve? Or is it a case of crap for brains?
What if the viewpoint of others is, as it is in some cases, “Convert to our religion or die.”? Or “Give me all your money and maybe I won’t kill you.”? Or, “We are implementing the final solution to the Jewish problem.”?
Or how about in our everyday life? “Obey law or we will use as much violence as is needed to put you in jail and/or force you to pay a fine.”
Violence, or the threat of it, is an essential part of a modern civil society. Public shaming and ostracizing people may come close to working in a small tribe. But as the “community” gets larger it loses it’s effectiveness. Once there are population centers of 1000s or tens of thousands and some with millions of people violence is the thread by which the social fabric is created.
It is required that the individual be willing and able to enforce civility when the criminals, private, or government sponsored, make clear their intentions to violate the social fabric of civil society. This is why we have a government guarantee, for whatever that is worth, that our right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed.—Joe]
There are hundreds of studies by dozens of professional organizations—such as the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association—that seek a foolproof methodology for identifying people likely to commit violence, but no definitive method has been found. Therefore, the quest for a gun control law that would accomplish the reduction in firearm killings to near zero is delusional.
Clearly, the only way to reduce the number of firearm killings to zero is to abolish gun ownership.
My proposal for a humane, revised second amendment would read: “No person may own, keep or use a firearm. Only members of well-regulated law enforcement organizations and the military may bear, but not own, firearms.”
May 23, 2018
Rewriting the Second Amendment
[Yup, I can see that. The minute gun ownership is banned firearm killings would go to zero. It simply wouldn’t be possible for anyone to use their guns anymore.
And this Einstein claims to be a mathematician. It’s possible is smart in some very narrow field but he clearly doesn’t understand the Bill of Rights, U.S. history, criminology, or psychology.
This guy has crap for brains.
If he had even a glimmer of understanding in those fields he would realize the rate of killings where guns were used would very quickly reach levels not seen since the Civil War.—Joe]
Only hardcore right wing extremist belong to the NRA, over 98% of gun owners want nothing to do with the NRA and it’s unhinged extremist political agenda.
May 18, 2018
Comment to Parkland father calls out Trump, McConnell, Ryan after Santa Fe shooting
[Interesting claims. Nearly all the gun owners I know who don’t have NRA memberships say the reason is because they NRA gives up our rights too easily. The others I know say it’s because they don’t want to be on a list the government might someday get access to and use to confiscate their guns.
Going on to the next portion of the sentence, the NRA claims they have something like 6 million members. If that represents only 2% of gun owners then EisenhowerConservative is of the belief there are 300 million gun owners in this country out of a population of about 325 million, of which about 35 million are under the age of 18. So, EisenhowerConservative believes the entire adult population and a significant portion of teenagers are gun owners.
Hence, we must conclude EisenhowerConservative is a liar and/or has crap for brains. It is my hypothesis that one or both attributes are prerequisites for being a gun control advocate. EisenhowerConservative is just one more data point confirming that hypothesis.—Joe]
Firearms are rarely used for self defense. They are mostly used for domestic violence and to make racist suburbanites feel tough.
May 17, 2018
Comment to Gun Rights Group May Sue Columbus Over Gun Control Laws
[Trolling? Crap for brains? Delusional? Telling the big lie?
I’m going with, “Telling the big lie” with “Trolling” in second place. The facts are easy enough to look up even if you can’t arrive at the correct conclusion from thinking about easily observable data (such as the police carrying guns for self-defense).—Joe]
Yet another limp gun junkie peacocking his pew pew.
#BobKeller #FuckTheNRA #GunContolNow #NRAIsATerroristOrganization
Blurtsy TouRIOTte’s @blurtsy
Tweeted on April 15, 2018
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!
Via a tweet from Jonathan @CorrelA_B who says:
The fixating on strangers’ genitalia is par for the course with #guncontrol extremists – hence #MarkleysLaw (@JoeHuffman).
The simultaneous calling for the murder of ~6,000,000 peaceful Americans by way of the #NRAIsATerroristOrganization tag? Ironically, that’s why we own guns.
They declare us terrorists then we get stubborn about giving up our guns. Odd how that works out. You would think they would be smarter than that. I mean, how much dumber could they be?—Joe]
Via email from Barron
With such smart people as opponents, delivering such clever arguments, we might as well give up right now.
Or, we could just add them to the list of people who resort to Markley’s Law in the first few seconds of discussion and laugh at them.