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I have pinned this post to the top of my blog. It is to remind people of what many of our opponents want. Alison Aires wants a tyrannical government. They want summary execution for private possession of firearms.

This is why we have a Bill of Rights. This is why I created Boomershoot.

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Quote of the day—Donald J Trump

Video footage from #Georgia shows that poll workers were told to stop counting and leave, while 4 people stayed behind to continue counting ballots in private.

Donald J Trump
December 3, 2020
Comment on YouTube
[Via daughter Jaime.

Watch both videos. They’re short.

I find it “interesting” these people weren’t concerned with the video surveillance cameras. Have they done this so many times and gotten away with it that they just didn’t have any concern about this time being different?

It certainly looks to me like a bunch of people need to be prosecuted.

We live in interesting times.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Kyle Smith

The Chump Effect is Meigs’s clever term for the bipartisan, broadly shared feeling that various systems are rigged in favor of elites, insiders, and favored groups, which leads to a breakdown in societal trust and trust in institutions. If those guys don’t have to play by the rules, we think, why should I? Meigs delves into social-science experiments that show people motivated by the Chump Effect can act irrationally by effectively volunteering to pay a cost in order that others be punished for ignoring norms.

The political implications of the Chump Effect are obvious: Meigs begins with the story of a man who asked Elizabeth Warren if he, who scrimped to put his child through college, would be entitled to a refund under her proposed new system to forgive student loans. “Of course not,” was Warren’s response. The man was furious: He was being made a chump.

Kyle Smith
November 12, 2020
The Chump Effect
[Emphasis added.

The Chump Effect is a significant component of why socialism and communism always fail.

The politicians don’t abide by state or U.S. Constitutions let alone the laws they pass. Why should they expect others to abide by their laws and regulations?–Joe]

Quote of the day—Alien

It is very rare indeed that one gets to witness a completely naked individual walk up to a large hornet’s nest and begin striking it with a stick after handcuffing himself to the tree the nest is in.

I’m reminded of that line from the movie, “I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me.”

Alien
December 1, 2020
Comment to Quote of the day—Republican state lawmakers in Pennsylvania
[I’m not so sure it’s as clear cut as that. But, still, we certainly do live in interesting times.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Republican state lawmakers in Pennsylvania

RESOLVED, That the House of Representatives:

(1) Recognize allegations of substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, precanvassing and canvassing during the November 3, 2020, election.

(2) Disapprove of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the Constitution of the United States to regulate elections.

(3) Disapprove of and disagree with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3, 2020, election regarding presidential electors.

(4) Declare that the selection of presidential electors and other Statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute. 2020D13219 – 4 – 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 (5) Urge the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other Statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 general election.

(6) Urge the United States Congress to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute.

Republican state lawmakers in Pennsylvania
November 30, 2020
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE RESOLUTION No. 1094 Session of 2020 (also available here)
Introduced by DIAMOND, NELSON, SCHEMEL, ROTHMAN, RYAN, KEEFER, JONES, ROWE, PUSKARIC, GLEIM, COOK, DUSH, BOROWICZ, ZIMMERMAN, METCALFE, MALONEY, MOUL, ROAE, RAPP, COX, KAUFFMAN, DAVANZO, DOWLING, IRVIN, BERNSTINE, LEWIS, GREINER, WARNER, OWLETT, TOBASH, MACKENZIE, METZGAR, SANKEY, KNOWLES, WHEELAND, JOZWIAK, B. MILLER, RIGBY AND HICKERNELL
[Read the whole thing, less than five pages, and attempt to convince me that there should not be a bunch of people, including members of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, going to prison over the crap they pulled.

I was talking to a friend yesterday. And a friend of his lives in Pennsylvania and saw a lot of unethical, if not illegal, stuff. Among other things, there were people wheeling people that were total “vegetables” in on wheelchairs to vote. Their “helper” would get them through the voter ID stuff and then vote for them. They were also also places where people could vote and votes were being counted but were called something other than a “polling place”. And because they where a “polling place” there were no observers required.

I urged that this person report the activities to law enforcement. My friend said he would forward the suggestion to his friend.

We live in interesting times.—Joe]

Withholding information

From The Epoch Times:

At a public hearing in Arizona with select members of the state legislature and members of President Donald Trump’s legal team, lawmakers called for their colleagues to support an upcoming resolution that would delay the release of the state’s Electoral College votes.

Arizona state Rep. Mark Finchem told reporters during the Nov. 30 hearing that they hope to have a resolution “within the next 24 to 48 hours.” The state holds 11 Electoral College votes.

“We are clawing our Electoral College votes back, we will not release them,” Finchem said. “That’s what I’m calling on our colleagues in both the House and Senate to do—exercise our plenary authority under the U.S. Constitution.

From National File:

After the state’s hearing into election integrity was only halfway through, Arizona State Rep. Mark Finchem, a Republican, issued a call for his colleagues to withhold the state’s Electoral College votes, as he believes there is enough significant evidence of fraud to invalidate the state’s votes.

From USSA News:

After the state’s hearing into election integrity was only halfway through, Arizona State Rep. Mark Finchem, a Republican, issued a call for his colleagues to withhold the state’s Electoral College votes, as he believes there is enough significant evidence of fraud to invalidate the state’s votes.

“We are clawing our electoral college votes back, we will not release them. That’s what I’m calling our colleagues in both the House and the Senate to do,” added Finchem. “Exercise our plenary authority under the U.S. Constitution.”

From Before Before It’s News:

Arizona State Rep. Mark Finchem ““We are clawing our electoral college votes back, we will not release them”, Gosar: “Biden’s thugs will not steal this election.”

From (We) Are The News:

Arizona Rep. Mark Finchem seeks to prevent the state from assigning its Electoral College votes to Joe Biden

After the state’s hearing into election integrity was only halfway through, Arizona State Rep. Mark Finchem, a Republican, issued a call for his colleagues to withhold the state’s Electoral College votes, as he believes there is enough significant evidence of fraud to invalidate the state’s votes.

“We are clawing our electoral college votes back, we will not release them. That’s what I’m calling our colleagues in both the House and the Senate to do,” added Finchem. “Exercise our plenary authority under the U.S. Constitution.”

Those reports on the hearing, and many, many, more, were found using a Bing search for the set of words (no quotations):

We are clawing our Electoral College votes back

No reference to the hearing was found in any major media outlet.

The same search with Google yielded one article in the Citizens Journal and one Twitter post.

The same search with Google New yielded nothing.

That news sources and major corporations withhold the activities of state legislatures from the people proves we live in a very different world from the one I believed we lived in when I took classes in U.S. history and U.S. government when I was in High School.

I’m reminded of the often reported story from when the concentration and death camps were liberated after WWII. The residents of the nearby cities were (perhaps figuratively)dragged through the camps to see the horrors. These nearby residents claimed they did not know what was happening in the camps. The Nazis had controlled the flow of information and given, at least semi-, plausible reasons for the orders and trains full of people brought to the camp.

And so it is with the parties of evil today that withhold information from the people to hide their activities.

We live in interesting times.

Respond appropriately.

Quote of the day—Patrick Basham

Despite poor recent performances, media and academic polls have an impressive 80 percent record predicting the winner during the modern era. But, when the polls err, non-polling metrics do not; the latter have a 100 percent record. Every non-polling metric forecast Trump’s reelection. For Trump to lose this election, the mainstream polls needed to be correct, which they were not. Furthermore, for Trump to lose, not only did one or more of these metrics have to be wrong for the first time ever, but every single one had to be wrong, and at the very same time…

Patrick Basham
November 27, 2020
Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling
[Via Scott Adams and daughter Jaime.

We live in interesting times.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Gad Saad @GadSaad

On a personal level, I’m a free thinker who is allergic go along, get along, group think. The ideals that drive my life are freedom and truth and any attack on these ideals represents an existential threat to all that I hold dear.

Gad Saad
2020
The Parasitic Mind: How Infectious Ideas Are Killing Common Sense
[From Amazon:

“Read this book, strengthen your resolve, and help us all return to reason.”  JORDAN PETERSON

This could be said of me from the time I was in the first grade. My grade school experience was hell because of this. Two of the three teachers I had in my first eight years of formal schooling tried to make me believe absurd things. Example include such as three doubled was nine, and the letter ‘y’ is always marked as a long ‘i’ when marking up a word by its sounds. The third teacher had her faults as well but non compliance was not so harshly punished. The absurdities extended from the classroom to the playground with rule interpretations that met with the teacher’s desired outcome instead of the written word of the rule book.

Classmates, my parents, and at least one younger brother for the most part advised me to not let it bother me and just go along with it even though it was wrong. That does not appear to be in my nature and it has never been a characteristic I had an interest in changing about myself. I’d rather attempt to change the world and fail than change myself to conform with a false view of reality to avoid punishment for wrong think.

I think I’m going to like this book.—Joe]

Black Friday sale on Insights Training

Almost all of my training has been through Insights. I highly recommend them. They are having a sale on their training. Here are the details:

Your mission this weekend: save on training

The more you buy the more you save!

1 day $245/day
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10+ days $200/day

Follow this link to Black Friday goodness…

Prices go up $25 per day in 2021, but you can save up to $75 per day. With this deal you’re training even cheaper than 2020!

2021 Classes will be posted on the website very soon

We know ammo is going to be an ongoing problem so we will start allowing 22LR for a portion of our mainline classes. We will have .22LR ammo available, .22LR conversion kits, .22LR semi-autos, plus we’re working on an ammo deal to be able to provide 9mm at a reasonable price.
We will be running:
Basic Handgun
General Defensive Handgun
Handgun Fundamentals
Intermediate Defensive Handgun
AR-15 Fundamentals
Home Defense Tactics
Street and Vehicle Tactics
Plus some cool new classes:
Pistol Caliber Carbine
General Purpose Rifle
Battle Rifle
Precision Rifle Prep
IDPA/USPSA Prep
Direct Action – Dynamic Clearing
Urban Operations – Surveillance
and more!

The fine print: Offer ends at end of day Monday, November 30, 2020, and is not valid for “Red Dawn” classes. Training day funds are valid for tuition only and do not include additional equipment or rentals. To use your sale funds for a class, please call the office to register.
For more information about all of our classes, visit InSightsTraining.com . To register, go to the website, call us at 425.827.2552 or email us at: info@insightstraining.com.
Stay safe and we’ll see you in class!

Copyright © 2020 InSights Training Center, All rights reserved.

Quote of the day—Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Ed.D.

I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden. These alterations were the result of systemic and widespread exploitable vulnerabilities in DVS, Scytl/SOE Software and Smartmatic systems that enabled operators to achieve the desired results. In my view, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.

Navid Keshavarz-Nia, Ph.D., Ed.D.
November 25, 2020
DECLERATION OF DR. NAVID KESHAVARZ-NIA
[I wish the lawyer writing this up knew how to use a spell checker.

Via daughter Jaime.

See also HUGE! Sidney Powell Witness Whom NY Times Described as “Always the Smartest Person in the Room” Concludes Hundreds of Thousands of Votes Transferred from Trump to Biden IN ALL BATTLEGROUND STATES.

Some of Keshavarz-Nia credentials:

I have a Bachelor’s degree in Electrical and Computer Engineering and a Master’s degree in Electronics and Computer Engineering from George Mason University, a Ph.D. degree in Management of Engineering and Technology from CalSouthern University and a Doctoral (Ed.D) degree in Education from George Washington University. I have advanced training from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

I am employed by a large defense contractor as a chief cyber security engineer and a subject-matter expert in cyber security. During my career, I have conducted security assessment, data analysis and security counterintelligence, and forensics investigations on hundreds of systems. My experience spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security counterintelligence linked to FIS operators, including China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia. I have worked as a consultant and subject-matter expert supporting the Department of Defense, FBI and US Intelligence Community (USIC) agencies such as the DIA, CIA, NSA, NGA, and the DHS I&A supporting counterintelligence, including supporting law enforcement investigations.

Also:

11. Despite DVS’s constant denial about the flaws of its systems, the company’s ImageCast Precinct optical scanner system was totally hacked in August 2019. This occurred during the largest and most notable hacker convention, called DEFCON Voting Machine Hacking Village in Nevada. The DVS ImageCast Precinct is an integrated hybrid voting equipment by combining an optical paper ballot and ballot marking device to allow accessibility for the visually impaired. The system runs the Busybox Linux 1.7.4 operating system, which has known medium to high level exploitable vulnerabilities to allow remote attackers to compromise the VDS. (J. Moss, H. Hurtsi, M. Blaze et al., Voting Village Report, DEFCON Village Report in association with and Georgetown University Law Studies; Online Source: https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2027/voting-village-report-defcon27.pdf). The report indicated that “many of the specific vulnerabilities reported over a decade earlier (in the California and Ohio studies, for example) are still present in these systems today (A. Padilla, Consolidated report by California Secretary of State, Top-to-Bottom Review summary and detailed report, Page 4 (Online Source: https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ovsta/frequently-requested-information/top-bottom-review)

The operating system software is Busybox Linux 1.7.4. This was released in 2008. Yes, the O/S of the voting software in states of the most interest to the entire nation has not been updated in over 12 years. In the computer security world this is regarded as something close to highly radioactive and the hardware using this software should be immediately removed from network connections then decommissioned or updated.

In my job I report, on a weekly basis, computers which I have found that have reached end of life and are no longer supported when they are just one day past the date of last support. Something 12 years past support with a connection to the Internet would have my VP talking to someone else’s VP in a very stern tone of voice.

I know of some cases where the offending computer has been immediately disconnected from the network with no effort to contact the owners. The attitude being something along the lines of, “If they are this ignorant, stupid, and/or careless, they don’t deserve to be notified. Let them figure it out on there own—if they can.”

In this case the company has known for “over a decade” the system was insecure. My inclination is that this was no accident or carelessness. There is a high probability this was deliberate. People should go to prison for this.

It looks as if the Kraken has been released.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Matt Braynard

It’s unfortunate, but short of a judge ordering a do-over, another election … short of that, I really don’t see how you fix this.

This election, it appears to me, has been decided by ballots that are highly questionable. They’re anomalous.

I cannot say with confidence who won this election. I don’t think anybody can.

Matt Braynard
November 25, 2020
Election Findings Could ‘Easily’ Overturn 3 States, Data Analyst Concludes
[We live in interesting times.—Joe]

Quote of the day—BLM Activist

You can’t talk about education, and you can’t talk about black issues, and LGBT issues, and exclude them as if they’re some individual issue; you need to be looking at this using intersectionality.

It means recognizing that there is one common enemy: the white man. The systems that they use are capitalism, patriarchy, and fascism. They were created and perpetuated by white men, for white men, in the interests of white men.

And once we realize that we are all fighting the same fight, it just strengthens the army. A problem shared is a problem halved. Imagine if we all realized and came together and grouped together?

All of these groups of people, the issues they face, it all comes from the same people: white men. So we need to get rid of them.

BLM Activist
July 19, 2020
Exclusive Video: BLM Activist Says White Men Are ‘The Common Enemy’, ‘We Need to Get Rid of Them’
[Lesson learned from the 20th Century: If someone says they want to kill an entire class of people… Believe them! Then respond appropriately.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Concerned American

if/when Trump’s legal remedies do not prevail over the Reds’ efforts, the America of your youth has been conquered in full by the Communists.

Concerned American
November 24, 2020
The Crisis Is Here
[While I understand the concern, I’m not in complete agreement it’s game over.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Dennis McBride

Guns have no place in shopping malls or other places in which crowds of people gather. Mayfair has a strict no-gun policy. If the shooter had complied with that policy, no one would have been hurt yesterday.

Dennis McBride
Mayor of Wauwatosa, Wisconsin
November 21, 2020
Wauwatosa Mayor: “Guns have no place in shopping malls”
[It’s as if he believes the gun caused the shooting while the human pulling the trigger was an unwilling participant.

Via Tom Greshm @Guntalk who had this to say:

New Leader in “Dumbest Statement By Elected Official” category. GFZ fail.

Yup. Incredibly dumb. At first I thought it had to be some live response to a question or something. I could see someone saying something like that while under some stress in a live situation. But no. This was a written statement released from the Mayor’s office.

The stupid, or perhaps chutzpah, really runs deep in these people.—Joe]

The primer story

There are multiple factors contributing to the shortage of primers. I had previously heard or assumed most of them in the following post. But the Remington component to “The Great Primer Shortage of 2020.” was new to me.

From Powder Valley, Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage?

Demand, however, is just one part of the story. Disruptions in the supply chain have also made a big impact on the availability of primers. When it comes to ammunition supplies, bullets are easy to manufacture, brass can be re-used, and powder is generally stockpiled by companies (though perhaps not the kind you’re looking for). This leaves primers, which are relatively difficult to make, as the component that causes the bulk of ammo shortages.

In the U.S., only four companies (Winchester, Remington, Federal, and CCI) manufacture primers for civilian use, law enforcement, and the military. Even under perfect circumstances, there’s only so much they can produce at once, and needless to say, circumstances have not been perfect during the pandemic. People getting sick, missing work to take care of their kids, and self-quarantining – from factory workers to delivery drivers, and all throughout the supply chain – caused a lull in manufacturing this spring.

The Remington bankruptcy has had a large impact on the shortage of ammo and primers.  With Remington in a state of financial insolvency for the past two years, suppliers were demanding payment upon delivery for products.  Remington simply did not have the financial capabilities to have an abundance of raw materials on hand and had to shutter some of their production capacity.  Barnes bullets and primers were hit particularly hard in the reloading market.  With the recent purchase of Remington by Vista, there is a good chance that Vista will be diverting CCI and Federal primers that would typically go to reloaders to Remington ammunition production.  Remington primer production capacity has never been great.  The hope would be that Vista will place more emphasis on getting the Remington primer production capacity increased substantially and quickly.

Quote of the day—Sean @hexian129

I will never feel sad or jubilant anymore because of the skin color/race composition of a candidate. Why? Look no further than Gary Locke, David Chiu or Evan Low. Identity politics produce horrible results. For candidates, we will listen to what they say and see what they do.

Sean @hexian129
Tweeted on November 15, 2020
[Some people are slow learners. But it’s better late than never.

I feel sad when I know someone has been chosen for any job or political office because of skin color/race composition. I want someone chosen because of merit. Unfortunately, considerations other than merit are becoming just as important in both the corporate and, especially, the political world. This is a recipe for disaster in many different ways.—Joe]

Any ideas?

I saw this on a restaurant in Idaho recently:

image

What I found odd was that there were no identification of the advocates. I expected something like, “Clearwater County Republicans”, “John Birch Society”, or “something” on the posters taking credit for the messages. But there was nothing.

Has anyone seen them elsewhere? Any ideas who they are?

Quote of the day—long-legged socialist @goodchillhunti1

Generally speaking, I believe re-education camps are a good thing. But we don’t need to send 75 million people there.

I simply propose we abolish private prisons, abolish the military industrial complex, and use the existing infrastructure to re-educate the capitalist class members who won’t relinquish their position of ownership.

long-legged socialist @goodchillhunti1
Tweeted on November 19 and November 20, 2020
[What is the Greek for “Come and take me” (to your re-education camp)?—Joe]

Quote of the day—Abraham Lincoln

While, on the other hand, good men, men who love tranquillity, who desire to abide by the laws and enjoy their benefits, who would gladly spill their blood in the defense of their country, seeing their property destroyed, their families insulted, and their lives endangered, their persons injured, and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change for the better, become tired of and disgusted with a government that offers them no protection, and are not much averse to a change in which they imagine they have nothing to lose. Thus, then, by the operation of this mobocratic spirit which all must admit is now abroad in the land, the strongest bulwark of any government, and particularly of those constituted like ours, may effectually be broken down and destroyed—I mean the attachment of the people. Whenever this effect shall be produced among us; whenever the vicious portion of [our] population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing-presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure and with impunity, depend upon it, this government cannot last. By such things the feelings of the best citizens will become more or less alienated from it, and thus it will be left without friends, or with too few, and those few too weak to make their friendship effectual. At such a time, and under such circumstances, men of sufficient talent and ambition will not be wanting to seize the opportunity, strike the blow, and overturn that fair fabric which for the last half century has been the fondest hope of the lovers of freedom throughout the world.
I know the American people are much attached to their government; I know they would suffer much for its sake; I know they would endure evils long and patiently before they would ever think of exchanging it for another,—yet, notwithstanding all this, if the laws be continually despised and disregarded, if their rights to be secure in their persons and property are held by no better tenure than the caprice of a mob, the alienation of their affections from the government is the natural consequence; and to that, sooner or later, it must come.

Abraham Lincoln
The Lyceum Address
[Via email from Chet who pointed to Cliff Mass’s post, KNKX, James Madison, and Mobs. Mass quoted Lincoln. I then searched for the complete text of the Lincoln quote.

Lincoln goes on to offer this as the means to prevent the alienation of the people and their government:

The question recurs, “How shall we fortify against it?” The answer is simple. Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well-wisher to his posterity swear by the blood of the Revolution never to violate in the least particular the laws of the country, and never to tolerate their violation by others. As the patriots of seventy-six did to the support of the Declaration of Independence, so to the support of the Constitution and laws let every American pledge his life, his property, and his sacred honor—let every man remember that to violate the law is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the charter of his own and his children’s liberty.

We must not tolerate the enemies of liberty to ignore the highest law of the land.—Joe]

A divorce in the works

Two Oregon Counties Vote to Consider Seceding, Joining Idaho

Residents of two rural Oregon counties voted in the Nov. 3 election to require their county officials to begin considering what would be involved in seceding from Oregon by moving neighboring Idaho’s border.

Changing state borders is a complex task. The legislatures of both states and the U.S. Congress would have to consent.

But the victory of the grassroots group Move Oregon’s Border in Jefferson and Union Counties is just the beginning of what promises to be a long, involved process. The group also hopes to bring some counties in liberal California along with it to become part of Idaho, a state that has voted for the Republican candidate for president in every election since 1968. The group calls the proposed, expanded state Greater Idaho.

“The idea of joining Idaho is new to Oregon voters and they need more time to learn that Idaho taxes are lower, even with all taxes considered, and that Idaho law respects traditional values in many ways that Oregon law does not,” Mike McCarter, president of Move Oregon’s Border, said in a statement.

“The friction between conservatives and the Left in Oregon and California will continue to increase as their expectations diverge, so moving the border will eventually be seen as the necessary, peaceful solution to this problem. The reaction of Oregon government to the execution of Trump supporter ‘Jay’ Danielson in Portland shows that they will not protect people who are not on their leftist team. This is not a sustainable situation.”

As of press time, the voters of two Oregon counties approved the ballot question, while voters in two other counties rejected it.

According to the Oregon secretary of state’s website, ballot measures were approved in Jefferson County (Yes 50.9 percent; No 49.1 percent) and Union County (Yes 52.4 percent; No 47.6 percent). The propositions were defeated in Douglas County (Yes 43.27 percent; No 56.73 percent) and Wallowa County (Yes 49.54 percent; No 50.46 percent).

Unfortunately neither Jefferson County or Union County border with Idaho. or each other. And Douglas County borders the Pacific Ocean!

Wallowa County does border Idaho but needed another 0.46+% to get a majority.

Wallowa and Union to border each other so if Union can persuade Wallowa to the divorce then there would be a connection to Idaho for both of them.

I wish them well.