From The Hill:
A jury on Friday acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager who fatally shot two protesters and wounded a third, of murder and other felony charges.
Update: More information here: Jury finds Rittenhouse not guilty in Kenosha shootings
Category Archives: Gun Rights
Quote of the day—breadmoth
So a child diddler, a domestic abuser, and a felon all walk into a bar. And Kyle says: “shots are on me”
breadmoth
November 8, 2021
Comment to FBI surveillance video shows Rittenhouse’s actions before he shot 3 people
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Jacob Sullum
Before he was elected mayor of New York City last week, Eric Adams raised some eyebrows by saying he would carry a handgun to protect himself and any houses of worship he might visit. While those remarks were controversial, the real scandal is that ordinary New Yorkers cannot legally carry guns for self-defense — a privilege that Adams takes for granted as a former police officer.
Jacob Sullum
November 10, 2021
Supreme Court should reject law that keeps ordinary people from carrying guns for self-defense
[Of course. The most foolish mistake they could possibly make would be to allow their subjects to posses arms.
See also here for more context and commentary.—Joe]
Judge tosses underage weapons charge
The jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was hearing competing narratives in closing arguments Monday after the judge dismissed a lesser weapons charged Rittenhouse faced.
Judge Bruce Schroeder dismissed a misdemeanor count Rittenhouse faced over whether he was a minor in possession of a firearm illegally. The defense argued the charge couldn’t apply because of what they said is an exception in the law. The prosecution objected, but the judge sided with the defense’s interpretation.
Quote of the day—Let People Vote @FlipBlue2022
Those with small genitalia compensate with guns.
Let People Vote @FlipBlue2022
Tweeted on November 11, 2021
[It’s not only another Markley’s Law Monday it’s another science denier!
Via a tweet from In Chains @InChainsInJail.—Joe]
Alan Dershowitz says Rittenhouse should sue
The best legal minds seem to be in agreement. Rittenhouse is not guilty and should be acquitted. Alan Dershowitz even agrees he should sue media outlets for their claims he murdered people:
Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz says Kyle Rittenhouse “should be acquitted” of killing two men and wounding a third during riots and protests last year in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and he should file defamation lawsuits against media outlets for claiming that he’s guilty of murder.
“If I were a juror, I would vote that there was reasonable doubt [and] that he did act in self-defense,” Dershowitz told Newsmax on Nov. 13.
Rittenhouse, if acquitted, should then “bring lawsuits” against corporate news outlets for articles claiming the teen engaged in “vigilante justice,” Dershowitz said.
“It’s CNN who is involved in vigilante justice. It’s The New Yorker that’s guilty of vigilante justice,” he said.
At a minimum I would add ABC and USA Today to the list of contributors to Rittenhouse’s yachts..
A little slow to catch up
Back in September of 2020 I noted the following:
The only potential charge that kept nagging at me until late today was the one about possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 (a misdemeanor).
WI law is somewhat confusing here…
941.28 is about the possession of a short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle. Hence, it does not apply to Rittenhouse.
29.304 is about restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age. While some people might claim he was hunting I can’t imagine his activities met the legal definition of hunting. Hence, this section does not apply to Rittenhouse.
29.593 is about requirements for certificate of accomplishment to obtain hunting approval. I’m certain hunting licenses are not being issued by WI fish and game for the state terrorists. Hence, there cannot be issue with any failure to acquire a certificate to get approval for a license.
Hence, the “possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18” charge is bogus.
I find it amazing the opinion writers, lawyers, and the judge are only recently deciphering the actual wording of the law.
He seems nice
Via Jonathan Sullivan on Facebook in November of 2016:
This must have been someone from the political party that celebrates diversity.
Prepare and respond appropriately.
Quote of the day—David Hardy
My guess: if it happens again, the judge will grant the mistrial with prejudice and a lot of findings about the prosecution motives, and how they kept screwing up even after he warned them. If it doesn’t, the judge will wait for the verdict. If not guilty, no need to rule. If guilty, he grants a new trial.
David Hardy
November 11, 2021
Still more disasters in Rittenhouse case
[Interesting hypothesis.—Joe]
Interesting observation
David Hardy makes an observation on the Rittenhouse case that is in line with the suggestions that the prosecutor’s poor showing is intentional:
I’ve been practicing 46 years, and have never seen a case, civil or criminal, collapse like this. Any good attorney would have seen it coming, and dismissed or settled.
It will be interesting to see if we get something approximating an after action report from the DA’s office.
Quote of the day—Chris Knox @ChrisKnox_AZ
I’m hoping #KyleRittenhouse and #NickSandmann end up with their yachts parked side-by-side trading caviar and champagne on the proceeds from their lawsuits against the legacy media.
Chris Knox @ChrisKnox_AZ
Tweeted on November 11, 2021
[He left out the part about the reporters and editors responsible for the lies have low paying jobs on their hands and knees cleaning the bilges of the yachts with toothbrushes.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Firearms Lawyer @firearmslawyer
This is the kill shot. The idea that it was not self-defense is absurd. Two guys giving chase, one fired a gun into the air as a “warning shot”—Ziminski & Rosenbaum were intent on murdering #Rittenhouse.
Firearms Lawyer @firearmslawyer
Tweeted on November 9, 2021
[He is referring to this tweet and video:
This is drone video the state go ahold of Friday. It shows #KyleRittenhouse shoot Joseph Rosenbaum. It’s the clearest, steadiest video of that shooting.
Jury watched multiple versions including one that was cropped, zoomed in & slowed down by the crime lab pic.twitter.com/lCjTawdcIi— Kristen Barbaresi (@KristenBarbar) November 9, 2021
I find it very “interesting” this FBI video was not made available until the middle of the trial. If it had been then there would have been a good chance Rittenhouse would have had the charges dropped. I would like an investigation to see why the FBI withheld this for so long and, if legally justified, see a prosecution for this withholding of evidence and deprivation of rights under color of law.
This is a side note but I find it an interesting hypothesis… Some commentators have been saying that the prosecutor is doing such a poor job that they suspect it is intentional to make sure Rittenhouse receives justice (acquittal).—Joe]
The FPC is looking for plaintiffs
The FPC is looking for possible civil rights violations. In the general case check out this web page. For the immediate future they are actively looking for this:
FPC’s legal team is seeking adults ages 18-19 in and around Leon County Florida sho would like to lawfully purchase a rifle or a shotgun but cannot due to state law. If you or anyone you know fits these criteria contact our legal team at https://t.co/eUkhL11G7M! pic.twitter.com/3iIHJvAe2z
— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) November 11, 2021
Quote of the day—BasedApe @A_Based_Ape
If you’re going to use Native Americans to prop up the gun debate, let me chime in. As a Native American and a history buff of some longevity, trust me, if the American Government asks you to disarm, it is NEVER going to work out in your favor. WE KNOW THIS FROM EXPERIENCE.
BasedApe @A_Based_Ape
Tweeted on October 31, 2021
[Keep saying no until you run out of ammo.—Joe]
Quote of the day—LisaCM @LisaCM9
America’s gun problem is a psychological problem. Somewhere along the way we became rather mentally ill, with no means to address it.
LisaCM @LisaCM9
Tweeted on November 7, 2021
[You might think this is referring to the crazies who refuse to respect the Bill of Rights. That would be a reasonable assessment of them but that isn’t what she is referring to. She is referring to those who want to enforce the 2nd Amendment.
This is what they think of you and the specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Ron Paul
A unique patient identifier will weaken health care by making individuals reluctant to share personal information—such as drug and alcohol use and past sexual history—with health care providers. It will also discourage sick individuals from seeking medical care for fear their physicians will discover they are unvaccinated, smoke, are overweight, or engage in other unapproved behaviors.
A unique medical ID could also be tied to government records of gun purchases. Someone with “too many” guns could be labeled a potential mental health risk and harassed by law enforcement. This is especially likely if the gun grabbers are successful in their push to enact “red flag” laws in every state.
Fortunately, there is a growing resistance to vaccines and other mandates. This resistance is unlikely to passively accept a federally-issued unique patient identifier. If those of us who know the truth take advantage of the opportunity presented by the resistance to COVID tyranny, we can not only stop the scheme to force every American to obtain a “unique patient identifier” but end all government control of our health care.
Ron Paul
November 11, 2021
Resist the Unique Patient Identifier!
[One thing he didn’t mention that I suspect will develop is a black market in health care. This will include all the quality control and fraud issues of black markets.
I fully support Paul in his goals and appreciate his efforts. However, I suspect Paul is a bit too optimistic. My bet is the only way we will get government to stop controlling our health care is by an economic collapse of the Federal government.
Prepare appropriately.—Joe]
Quote of the day—UR a Smart Ass, Carl @cleflore23
I own my gun for lawful purposes, so why am I unfairly targeted like I’m the next mass shooter? It’s discrimination to judge me based on the gun I own.
UR a Smart Ass, Carl @cleflore23
Tweeted on November 6, 2021
[I would probably describe it as “prejudice” (pre judging) rather than “discrimination”, but the general sentiment is certainly correct. In general, anti-gun people are not nice people and many are demonstrably evil.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Brandon Smith
I will not comply with your illegitimate mandates. IT-WILL-NEVER-HAPPEN. And if you think you can use leverage to force me to comply, threatening me with poverty and death through economic discrimination, then I will view your actions for what they are – An attack on my freedoms and my life. I will therefore respond in kind and eliminate the threat by any means necessary, and, I will be justified in doing so, constitutionally, rationally, scientifically and morally.
Covid cultists like Chomsky, most of them leftists and socialists, should keep this in mind as they continue down this path. They think that the greater good is on their side but this is a fantasy driven by their own hunger for dominance. The question you need to ask yourselves is this: Do you really think your desire to force the mandates and your political ideology on me is greater than my will to stop you and remain free? Are you ready to risk death to impose the vax mandates? Because I am ready to risk death to end them.
Brandon Smith
November 4, 2021
Noam Chomsky Goes Off The Deep End – Proving That All Socialism Leads To Tyranny
[See also what Solzhenitsyn, Thoreau, and I have said about intentions.
Update: Add C.S. Lewis to the list.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Larry Keane
Chipman proved in this interview – again – why he was never qualified for job of ATF Director. He continues to lie, telling any reporter willing to let him rehabilitate his shattered veneer of a benevolent law enforcement professional from what America truly saw. Chipman is, has been and always will be, an advocate for gun control who would have used the ATF as a cudgel against the industry that provides the means for Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights.
The problem with Chipman’s nomination was Chipman. In this interview, he made that case against his own nomination better than the industry ever could.
Larry Keane
October 29, 2021
CHIPMAN SPOUTS LIES TO SMEAR THE FIREARM INDUSTRY
[A leopard doesn’t change its spots. Anti-gun activists always lie and deceive. It’s part of their culture. I suspect they lie so frequently and so habitually that they become unable to tell the truth.—Joe]
Quote of the day—Adam Baldwin @AdamBaldwin
Vanguard elite communists don’t care that you recognize their hypocrisy because they believe their hypocrisies to be trivial to their holy mission of creating heaven on earth… and that you cannot stop them.
Adam Baldwin @AdamBaldwin
Tweeted on November 1, 2021
[I just finished the book Dear Reader. It is a fascinating, and horrifying, look into the mind of an elite communist.
Baldwin is not wrong. Some of our politicians let slip glimpses of their true nature which is fully revealed in people like Kim Jong Il. If given the power they crave and believe they deserve the horror unleased is terrifying. The Great Terror could well be a how-to story rather than a warning.—Joe]