The Way to Think About It

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This is a security system set up in such a way as not to inconvenience gun buyers and sellers. There is no other security system that I’m aware of that is set up in this way.  Think of it: the TSA was set up to prevent another 9/11. But the nature of that job requires putting people at some inconvenience.

David Chipman
March 5, 2023
FBI gun seizure orders from people who fail background checks hit historic rates

How about we think of it this way, if someone is too dangerous to be allowed possession of a gun or to board a plane, why are they allowed to be unescorted while in public spaces?

Or another way, why hasn’t Chipman been prosecuted yet?

On my Top Ten Most Wanted List

If we were making a list of criminals infringing upon the rights of gun owners this police department would be in the top 10 on my list:

Indy Police Have Secretly Funneled Firearm Data To ATF

SAF Investigative Journalism Project

The Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department has quietly tested every single recovered firearm – even those not used in the commission of crimes – without probable cause or a search warrant for as long as anyone at the department can recall, according to a story published recently by WISHTV.com.

Once the firearms were tested at the police department’s crime lab, the data was then sent to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which used it to create an illegal gun registry.

Police admit they never obtained search warrants to test the firearms. The testing was done as a matter of policy, whether the guns were used in crimes, held for safekeeping or recovered through other means.

IMPD Assistant Police Chief Chris Bailey told reporters the practice started decades ago, and he confirmed that officers did not have probable cause or search warrants to conduct the tests.

“Not that we know of. We went back and checked how long this has been going on. A former employee who came on in 1973, and it was happening then in the 1970s, and she worked another 30 years here and retired a couple years ago,” Bailey told WISHTV.com. He added there are currently more than 21,000 firearms in IMPD’s property room.

“Let’s say you’re in a crash and knocked out. There’s a gun in your console. The officer can’t send the gun on the gurney with you to the hospital, so they take your gun, your wallet and your cellphone and put it in a bag marked ‘safe’ for safekeeping. Once you’re released from the hospital, you can get your cell and your wallet, but not your gun. You’ll be told IMPD has to ‘process’ it. Keep in mind they would need a search warrant to search your cellphone. Once the gun is tested, ATF now has a ‘fingerprint’ of your gun. Then, ATF will conduct a trace of your firearm and they’ll get the 4473. Six months later, IMPD will tell you that you need to provide proof of ownership, so you’ll need to go to the gun store where you bought it. It can take us several days to dig out the paper receipt. Now, IMPD has three things that identify you as the owner of the firearm, but you still can’t get your gun. You need to make an appointment with the department, get

fingerprinted and they’ll run a background check. If you’re lucky, in a year or two they will hand your firearm back,” Burge said.

Burge said he asked department officials numerous times to justify the process.

“If a laptop comes in, we can’t just turn it on without a search warrant. What gives them the right to ‘turn on’ a firearm?” he asked. “The average handgun people carry costs around $500. When they get the runaround from the city and go talk to an attorney for help – and attorneys don’t work for free – they’ll find out it could cost them around $10,000 to get back a $500 handgun. Most don’t. We’re talking about thousands of people who have been victimized.”

Someday I hope to enjoy their trial.

See also Indianapolis Police have secretly funneled firearm data to ATF for more than 50 years.

Innovation Beats Intimidation

Nice!

Modified gun magazine within the law

With the city of Columbus banning 30-round gun magazines, LEPD Firearms & Range owner Eric Delbert holds a modified magazine that holds 29 rounds and the plastic single shot limiter that keeps it within the law in Columbus.

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This should hold the forces of evil away for a little while. While it probably isn’t going to be long enough for the courts to slap the city of Columbus down. Cities can respond pretty fast on creating new laws and the courts move very slow. But ultimately the courts will put them in their place. I hope that includes forcing the city pay for the plaintiff’s legal bills.

Violence is in their nature

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Fuck the 2A, we are not in favor of “guns for everyone”, we are in favor of arming those groups who stand most to gain from the end of capitalism, and disarming those who stand in our way

Minnesota SRA @SRA_Minnesota
The Minnesota chapter of the Socialist Rifle Association
Tweeted on February 22, 2023

Also from them:

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For Minnesota SRA @SRA_Minnesota, I’ve known violence is inherent in your kind for a long time. But not everyone believed it. Thanks for the confirmation.

For everyone else, Prepare appropriately.

They are a Bunch of Outlaws

They are an outlaw organization:

FBI worked secretly with hospitals to strip US citizens’ gun rights, documents show

The FBI coordinated secretly with hospitals and medical centers to strip U.S. citizens of their rights to own, buy, or even use firearms, according to a trove of internal documents obtained by the Washington Examiner.

Behind closed doors and without congressional approval, the FBI has worked hand in hand with the Secret Service and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to strip over two dozen people of their gun rights with internal forms, records show. On the heels of this revelation by the Washington Examiner in December 2022, newly obtained documents and emails shed light on how the bureau apparently received a helping hand from medical facilities to waive gun rights from at least five people.

It is long past time for people to be prosecuted for this crap.

Changing minds through coercion

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The same cultural rot that produced trigger warnings, produced the obsession with announcing (and insisting on) preferred pronouns.

It stems from wanting to change someone else’s mind about something without having to do the work associated with argumentation & persuasion.

Don Kilmer @donkilmer
Tweeted on March 4th, 2023

There is probably more effective than you realize.

If you can change someone’s behavior, even at the point of a gun, you have gone a great way toward changing their mind. Repetitive actions builds a habit. This is an actual change in the brain. The more frequently used neural pathways become more myelinated. This speeds up the speed of conduction. Those responses, even if coerced, then become the default action.The mind has, literally, been changed.

Most actions and things people say are not carefully thought out. Ask someone why they did or said something, and they will search for and give a reason, many times this is even if there was no such reason before you asked. When a person’s behavior, even through coercion, has changed they will find those “reasons”. It is very difficult to change such minds through logic and facts.

Childish Insult Against a Human Right

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I’m sorry, but the technology to search for something as small as your dick has yet to be invented

Grandma Canada @Grandma_Canada
Tweeted on December 10, 2022

It’s not only another Markley’s Law Monday, it is another science denier!

They have childish insults. We advocate for human rights.

Another Gun Law Bites the Dust

Illinois judge rules state’s gun ban and registry unconstitutional

An Illinois judge declared the state’s gun ban and registry law unconstitutional on Friday.

The ruling by Macon County Judge Rodney Forbes means the law, signed by Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker in January, cannot be enforced and is now awaiting an appeal to the Illinois Supreme Court.

Pritzker signed the assault-style weapons ban on Jan. 10 after being passed in both the state Senate and House. The bill banned the sale, delivery, and purchase of so-called ” assault weapons,” as defined by the bill, which categorizes more than 100 different types of rifles, shotguns, and pistols to be banned, and anyone with these types of weapons would be required to register them by Jan. 1, 2024.

Another one bites the dust.

You know what this means, right?

More liberal tears to lubricate our guns.

Gun Registration is for Confiscation

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If we had gun registration, if we were able to track purchases, they have a technology that every bullet could be stamped like a fingerprint, if we had an ATF that wasn’t defunded, we would be able to enforce gun laws more effectively and we would be able to solve gun crimes more effectively.

Jon Stewart
March 3, 2023
Jon Stewart Brutally Confronts Republican Lawmaker Over Gun Deaths

“If”.

The object of the first two “if” statements is false and will continue to be false for a long time in the future, if not for a century or more. And I can see a plausible future where the ATF is, at least, not just underfunded, from Stewarts view, but stripped of the letter ‘A’ in its name.

And how many crimes have been solved using gun registration in Hawaii or Canada?* The numbers I have heard have been zero and one. So, what color is the sky in Stewarts universe?

Or, a better question, what is the nature of his evil intent? The only reason for gun registration is confiscation.

However the best question is, will he continue to waste oxygen on this and related topics after judges strike down any law that hint at registration. We already have a gun serial number law struck down. How does Stewart think registration is possible with no serial numbers?


* Gun Violence Research, GVPedia, claims it is MYTH: Firearm registries never helped solve a crime. But it is very telling they dance around the question without ever answering it affirmatively:

Hawai’i is the only state that requires all firearms to be registered and consistently has the lowest or second lowest gun death rate in the country. In a March 15, 2021 letter to GVPedia, Hawai’i Police Department Chief Paul K. Ferreira wrote, “In response to your inquiry about whether the firearms registration process in Hawai’i County has been used to solve crimes or has resulted in prosecutions, firearm ownership or transfer information can lead to evidence that is vital to the prosecution of a crime.

“Firearms checks are used on a daily basis to confirm ownership of firearms recovered during the execution of search warrants, of firearms routinely found in the possession of suspects who are wanted for crimes, and firearms located within vehicles during traffic stops. Having the ability to access a person’s firearms information prior to arriving at a domestic violence type call can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety. Being able to verify the ownership of a firearm or where it has been transferred to have led to multiple calls for service being solved to include burglaries, theft and violent crimes.”

In a February 24, 2021 email to GVPedia, the Criminal Justice Division of the Department of the Attorney General of Hawaii wrote, “Hawaii requires a person seeking to purchase or acquire a firearm to apply for a permit from the police chief to ensure that the person acquiring a firearm in Hawaii is qualified to possess the firearm. In addition to obtaining a permit, Hawaii mandates the registration of all firearms purchased or acquired in Hawaii, transported into Hawaii, assembled from parts, or transferred from one person to another. As an added safeguard, Hawaii requires owners to report when a firearm is removed permanently from the State. This comprehensive system creates a record of the transaction(s) transferring ownership of the firearm, whether it be a pistol or revolver, or rifle or shotgun. The law also requires the transferor to verify that the recipient has obtained a permit to acquire a firearm, and, also to verify and record the identity of the recipient. Each county police department maintains its records of firearm transactions for its respective county, and all county police departments have statewide access to firearm information.

“Hawaii’s firearm permit and registration system provides information to law enforcement agencies and the courts that assist in solving crimes and promoting public safety. By requiring each transfer of ownership to be documented, the county police departments may be able to trace the ownership of a firearm involved in a crime. Firearm ownership or transfer information can lead to evidence that is vital to the prosecution of a crime.

“The courts routinely order that firearms are to be surrendered by persons who have been disqualified from ownership of firearms upon being charged with or convicted of felonies and certain misdemeanors, including domestic violence offenses. Also, a restraining or protective order, particularly a domestic violence protective order or gun violence protective order, will prohibit the possession of firearms. Law enforcement officers serving the protective order can verify whether the person being served owns firearms and account for its surrender. Additionally, when law enforcement serves warrants or execute evictions, the firearm registry can provide vital information for threat assessment and officer safety.”

Only fool would give up a weapon

Via Tamera on Gab:

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Other things the government can’t stop:

  • Spam email
  • Phishing email
  • Poverty
  • Homelessness
  • Illegal immigration
  • Theft
  • Robbery
  • Terrorism
  • Black markets (including all recreational drugs such as cigarettes, alcohol, etc.)

The government can punish many of those things and reduce the frequency by increasing the cost, but it cannot stop it. What is interesting to me, is that most black markets are created by the government. I’ve read that anytime a tax goes above 15% a black market will form.

But more to the intended point, when seconds count the cops are only minutes away.

ATF humor

Via BigRed:

Little Johnny was in his Kindergarten class when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living.

All the typical answers came up – fireman, truck driver, salesman. Johnny was being uncharacteristically quiet, and so the teacher asked him about his father.

“My father’s an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer’s really good, he’ll go out to the alley with some screaming ****** and take it up the ***.”

The teacher hurriedly set the other children to work on some colouring in and took little Johnny aside to ask him “Is that really true about your father?”

“No,” said Johnny, “he’s really an atf agent, but I was too embarrassed to say”.

Fake but accurate.

The Exercise of Their 2nd Amendment Rights Would Have Prevented This

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Walmart has long been harshly criticized by the city’s left-wing politicians & residents. This shutdown follows the consequences of the 2020 BLM-Antifa riots that normalized urban criminality.

Andy Ngo
March 2, 2023
Walmart to close ALL Portland stores in March

Antifa should have been dealt with much differently. I place just as much blame on the politicians who failed to do their jobs to protect the rights of the victims.

Restoring Gun Owner Rights One Lawsuit at a Time

Via SAF:

FEDERAL JUDGE GRANTS PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION IN VANDERSTOK CASE

A federal judge in Texas has granted a preliminary injunction against the federal government’s enforcement of the final rule regarding partially manufactured firearm parts and kits in a case known as VanDerStok v. Garland, which challenged the authority of the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to regulate items that are not firearms, as if they were firearms.

“We are pleased with the Courts ruling, which correctly finds we are likely to succeed on our claims,” said Adam Kraut, SAF’s Executive Director. “Judge O’Connor agrees that ATF’s final rule expanded the agency’s authority over parts that may be ‘readily converted’ into frames or receivers, which surpasses the authority granted by Congress. Even more compelling is that the judge agrees that ATF’s rule unlawfully treats parts kits as firearms. It is refreshing to see rogue administrative agencies being reined in by the checks and balances of our system of government.”

How to make gun owners cry

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After today I believe we need more Gun Control.

I am still traumatized by what I have seen. Been visiting with some friends. The gentleman (Father in Law) showed me his his prized tacticool 1911. Matching numbers 1942 Colt. Ceracoted with new trigger, grips, sights and a rail. Was bery proud. He did it himself.

santig
March 1, 2023
We need more gun control!

I’m far from a collector and even I know better than to do something like this.

So sad…

Boomershoot Poem

Via Bing Chat:

Boomershoot

A challenge for the marksmen
Who aim for distant dots
They fill the air with thunder
And make explosions pop

A spectacle for the watchers
Who cheer for every hit
They see the fire and smoke
And feel the shockwave split

A thrill for the organizers
Who set up every box
They mix the chemicals and gas
And place them on the rocks

A celebration for the lovers
Of freedom and of guns
They gather in Idaho each year
To have some Boomershoot fun!

Sign up for Boomershoot 2023 here.

Bump stocks are now legal in three states

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In January the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the ATF’s Trump-mandated bump stock ban was unconstitutional. Today, in a 13-3 ruling, the Court of Appeals finalized its ruling, mandating that the case — Cargill v. Garland — be remanded to the lower court to reverse its decision [that upheld the ban] and enter a judgement in favor of the plaintiff, Michael Cargill.

Dan Zimmerman
February 28, 2023
Fifth Circuit Finalizes Ruling In Favor of Plaintiff in Cargill v. Garland, Legalizes Bump Stocks in Three States

This is a good first step. Only about 100k steps to go.

There is a non-zero chance my grandchildren will have the opportunity to participate in machine gun sporting events in high school.

Communism has Never Been Tried

Via Redacted – Come Take @surveytheland:

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I have nothing to add.

News on Greater Idaho

It appears things are moving along toward several East Oregon counties joining Idaho:

Greater Idaho told DailyMail.com they are confident that as more western Oregonians hear about the measures they will support letting the eastern part of the state go, and cited a 2022 poll which supported their prediction.

‘The poll showed that voters don’t want to hold counties captive that don’t consent to Oregon government. It showed that only 3% of the voters of northwestern Oregon think that keeping these counties captive is worth the annual cost to the state budget.’

‘And it showed that many would welcome the chance for western Oregon to make its own decisions without interference and obstruction from eastern Oregon. Already, 68% of voters want their state government to look into moving the state line.’

Only 3% of the people in the progressive area want to keep the rebel counties! 68% of the entire state are fine with it. There is not much more that I can envision being a serious blockage to the change. In my mind, it was always going to boil down to the socialists and communists in the large population centers wanting to retain power over the uneducated, in-bred, country bumpkins. If the report is true then I was very mistaken.

Gun control for thee but not for me

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The year of 2021 ended as one of the most violent on record in Chicago, as a rise in the number of shootings left more people dead than in any single year in a quarter century, according to statistics released by the police department on Saturday.

According to the department, 2021 ended with 797 homicides. That is 25 more than were recorded 2020, 299 more than in 2019 and the most since 1996. And there were 3,561 shooting incidents in 2021, which is just over 300 more than were recorded in 2020 and a staggering 1,415 more shooting incidents than were recorded in the city in 2019.

Associated Press
January 1, 2022
2021 Ends as Chicago’s Deadliest Year in a Quarter Century

3,561 shootings and 797 homicides in a single year! They don’t say how many of those were justified self-defense but regardless, that is nearly 10 shootings and over two dead each day.

Of course, the mayor thinks the solution is more gun control:

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot called for more federal gun control in response to the rising gun violence that has plagued her city this year.

Of course gun control is not for everyone:

Progressive Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot has been secretly protected by a specialist squad of more than 70 cops — one set up the same year she pushed to slash $80 million from the police budget, according to reports.

Chicago police’s previously unknown Unit 544 has 65 officers along with five sergeants and a lieutenant assigned to protect the mayor — on top of her personal bodyguard detail of about 20 officers, the Chicago Sun-Times revealed Monday, citing public records.

Gun control for private citizens and 85 armed police officers to protect her in one of the most criminally violent cities in the nation. That makes sense, if your goal is the destruction of the city.

In unrelated news Lori Lightfoot becomes the first Chicago mayor in 40 years to lose re-election.

Gun Control Works

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Because mass murderers agree. Gun control works!

Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
2014
Gun Control Works

Criminal governments are more of a threat to human life than all individual criminals combined.

Trust the science.