A Weapon of Thought

An email I received from L. Neil Smith:



A WEAPON OF THOUGHT


 


By L. Neil Smith <lneil@netzero.com>


 


 


   Aaron Zelman, founder and executive director of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, has announced creation of a vital and unique new resource for advocates of the individual right to own and carry weapons.


 


   _2A Today for the USA_ is a free 23-minute video presentation, a weapon of thought, specifically produced to disrupt and destroy the evil, inhumane agenda of victim disarmers and gun prohibitionists with generous applications of legal and historical truth. Because JPFO encourages the widest possible distribution of this film, it is being offered on the Internet for free, with numerous options for viewing or downloading.


 


   Quite simply put, in these frightening times we’re living through today, you must use this video — or lose your guns.


 


   Although many gun rights advocates mistakenly believe that the recent Heller Supreme Court decision was a victory for our side, in fact it authorizes all manner of infringements — in the form of “reasonable” regulation — on the individual right to own and carry weapons. _2A Today for the USA_ sets the legal and historical record straight.


 


   In the current national election — no matter what political propagandists are saying now — both sides are sworn and established enemies of private, individual gun ownership, who either don’t understand the Second Amendment, or willfully misinterpret it. _2A Today for the USA_ exposes them for what they are: ruthless would-be dictators who find a well-armed populace an inconvenience to their plans.


 


   One thing is certain: whoever wins this election, we will have no friends in the White House for the next four to eight years. Even if John McCain wins, and Sarah Palin means what she appers to say on Second Amendment issues, she won’t be the boss, and she won’t be able to dissuade her boss from ravaging our rights as he has always tried to do.


 


   We all know the setup: cowardly Republican president wants some pet bill passed; predatory Democratic congress tacks on an anti-gun hitchhiker; cowardly Republican folds like a dollar bill and more of our rights disappear.


 


   Clearly, you must use this video — or lose your guns.


 


   Go to: <http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/2a-today-download.htm> to view or download the movie, which was made possible by JPFO’s members and supporters.


 


   Please send this announcement to your friends and everyone on your address lists. That should include every gun owner, every gun dealer, every hunting buddy, and everyone else you know.


 


   Make sure JPFO’s video is seen — as a warning, if nothing else — by anyone in a position to help take your guns away. Start modestly, with just half a dozen city council members, then work your way up to the mayor, city manager, municipal and county judges, county commissioners, the governor, state and federal representatives, senators, and judges.


 


   What does it cost, how much time does it take, to send an e-mail?


You must use this video — or lose your guns.


 


   Be relentless with the media — with radio stations, newspapers, and television. Be sure to include any clubs you may belong to: they all start their meetings with the Pledge of Allegiance, make sure they know what it really means.


 


   Don’t overlook “friends of the NRA” — they need to be shown the truth more than most. Here’s something you can do: tell your friends that when they are approached by various gun groups for money, they should demand that the group encourage their members to watch _2A Today for the USA_ on the Internet or there will be no more donations or memberships for phony “freedom fighters”.


 


   Tell them they must use this video — or lose their guns.


 


   Follow whatever viewing or downloading procedure best suits your preferences, and download/bandwidth options. PC users can right click and choose “save target as” on links to download the files to your computer. There are also links to YouTube and Blip.TV. Please email us if you have any problems.


 


   Again, <http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/2a-today-download.htm>


 


   Remember, you must use this video — or lose your guns.


 


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 Four-time Prometheus Award-winner L. Neil Smith has written on guns and gun ownership for more than 30 years. He is the author of 27 books, the most widely-published and prolific libertarian novelist in the world, and is considered an expert on the ethics of self-defense.


His writings (including _The Probability Broach_, _Roswell, Texas_ and the newly re-released _Tom Paine Maru_) may be seen on the following


sites:


 


LNS at JPFO: http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/lneilsmith.htm


 


BigHeadPress.com: http://www.bigheadpress.com/


 


Arc Manor/Phoenix Pick: http://www.phoenixpick.com/


 


_The Libertarian Enterprise_:  http://www.ncc-1776.org/


 


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Obama and rights

Barack Obama says that health care is a right. Which apparently, in his world view, means government should make it possible for everyone to obtain health insurance via tax credits and forcing employers to provide it. He also says he believes gun ownership is a right. Therefore one should reasonably be able to conclude he also believes similar measures would be appropriate to pay for guns and ammo for everyone, right?


Odd, he doesn’t say anything about that in his policy statement.

Gun Rights Policy Conference Audio Recordings

Here’s something you won’t find from the anti-gun bigots. Recent Gun Rights Policy Conferences were recorded and the recordings are available to anyone. Get the recordings of previous conferences all the way back to 2003.


When the bigots hold conferences do they make their proceedings public?

Quote of the day–45Superman

Well, Professor, with your academic background and obvious intellectual gifts, perhaps you’d care to explain the tactical advantages of a “shoot-second” approach to self-defense, because I’m clearly not bright enough to see them.


45Superman
October 17, 2008
The case for ‘erosion’

Barack I Like Guns Obama

Barack Obama is now running ads telling us that he supports gun rights:



He bases this claim in the fact that he voted for SA4615 the bill which has the purpose:



To prohibit the confiscation of a firearm during an emergency or major disaster if the possession of such firearm is not prohibited under Federal or State law.


Good. But not good enough. This ignores all his other votes and support for the complete handgun ban in Washington D.C., and support for a ban on “assault weapons”. Hunting, which is what Obama and Biden focus on, has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Unless you include hunting government employees in the definition of hunting. Hunting is not a protected right except under some state constitutions. Yet that is what Obama and company seem to think is the entire basis of the Second Amendment.


Check out the rest of the story before you believe this weasel.

GunVoter.org

Jeff Knox and friends have created a website/forum for helping gun rights activists. Here is what he has to say about it:



GunVoter.org is a grand experiment and, we hope, will become a valuable tool in the activists toolbox.


This is your site and it will only work if you participate. Just snooping around now and then doesn’t help other activists any at all. We need you to share your thoughts and knowledge as well as learning from the posts of others.


In this area we ask that you introduce yourself, let users know where you live, what you do, what your interests are, and what’s important to you. Tell us what clubs you are a member of and what organizations you support.


I also want to encourage every user to go to the forum zone for your state, tell us what you think of your Senators and your Representative or, if you don’t know where your politicians stand on gun rights, ask a question so you and others can find out.


Something else that would be very helpful for all of us is if you would add to and correct the thread under your state listing pro-gun organizations and their contact information. We got that information courtesy of our friends at GunLawNews.com and know that it is incomplete and that some of it might be out of date. We need you to help us get it accurate. Then we need your help contacting those groups to invite them to participate here on GunVoter.org!


You don’t need to be an expert or a professional to post on this site, just interested and concerned.


Please don’t leave the site without contributing to the community in some way, whether just an introduction post, a question about legislation or a politician, or information about some candidate you support. Every post has value. Please participate in the project.


Thanks for being here and thanks for being a GunVoter.

Jeff Knox

Ignore the man behind the curtain

From Nevada Appeal (ignore the error about Biden being the presidential nominee instead of the vice presidential nominee):



Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware said Friday that Nevadans shouldn’t listen to claims he and Barack Obama would take away the right to bear arms.

“I get a kick out of, sometimes, the NRA saying we’re going to take your shotguns away,” he said in a telephone interview with the Nevada Appeal.



“Both of us believe strongly in the Second Amendment,” Biden said. “We do not believe in registration. We do believe in limits on some of the weapons. You can’t have your own flame-thrower or bazooka. And legislation in relation to assault weapons doesn’t affect hunters or sportsmen.

“We are two Democrats who voted against gun control,” he said.

But, Biden said, there is room for common-sense laws relating to such things as carrying concealed weapons.


That’s right. You shouldn’t listen to what people are saying about his record. Listen only to what he wants you to hear. “Assault weapons”? Concealed carry? You’re just a hunter. You don’t need to concern yourself with those things. We’ll send those people off to the prison camps first and you don’t need to worry about them because your gun is a good gun. Those other guys have bad guns.

Quote of the day–John Rosenthal

It’s not a stretch to think that terrorist groups have been coming to the United States, buying them, shipping them back to Afghanistan or Iraq and killing US soldiers.


John Rosenthal
October 18, 2008
Founder of Stop Handgun Violence
Logan twice missed passenger’s weapons–R.I. man got pistols, shotguns past security
[As if terrorist groups can’t get guns in Iran, Syria, or any other Mideastern country much easier. Rosenthal will say whatever he thinks he can get away with which will have the effect of reducing the ability of people in this country to exercise their specific, enumerated, right to keep and bear arms. Quoting Rosenthal after someone breaks a gun law is like quoting the KKK after a non-white breaks the law.–Joe]

The NRA and the Brady campaign agree

The NRA website has the details. The basics are:



This week, in a testament to his anti-gun record, Barack Obama also received a presidential endorsement from the Brady Campaign.


So, once again, the Brady Campaign and NRA are in total agreement—Barack Obama is, by far, the most anti-gun presidential nominee in history and he certainly deserves the endorsement of one of the most outspoken anti-gun organizations in the country.


NRA-ILA has repeatedly documented Obama’s anti-gun stance; but if any doubt remains about Obama’s true position on the Second Amendment, his endorsement from the Brady Campaign should dispel it.


Voting for Obama will be asking for a return the era of Bill Clinton only worse. Bill Clinton and his policies were significant motivators for me to buy my first gun. It was Diane Feinstein that motivated me to manufacture my own explosives. You don’t want to know what Obama will motivate me to do.

Having an impact

Sometimes it is amazing what one, essentially, insignificant, unknown person can do. “Joe the Plumber” is in the news right now and may be “a bone in the throat” of Obama. I even got a text message from my old boss asking, “Are you watching the debate?” I replied, “No. Should I be?”. He responded that “Joe” was what the debate was about. Since I don’t have a TV it wasn’t until the next morning that I figured what was going on.

On a much smaller scale my barely read blog occasionally gets attention from people of power. That’s pretty cool. But what really amused me was what happened yesterday.

I noticed I had a hit from Handgun Control Inc. who was doing a search for “Joe Huffman”. Apparently I am known, by name, to the biggest, baddest, anti-gun bigots in the country:

 

Domain Name sct.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 65.242.56.# (HANDGUN CONTROL)
ISP Verizon Business
Location
Continent  : North America
Country  : United States  (Facts)
State  : District of Columbia
City  : Washington
Lat/Long  : 38.9042, -77.032 (Map)
Distance  : 2,071 miles
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft Win2000
Browser Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17
Javascript version 1.5
Monitor
Resolution  : 1024 x 768
Color Depth  : 16 bits
Time of Visit Oct 16 2008 12:45:39 pm
Last Page View Oct 16 2008 12:55:48 pm
Visit Length 10 minutes 9 seconds
Page Views 6
Referring URL http://www.google.co…2US261&q=Joe Huffman
Search Engine google.com
Search Words joe huffman
Visit Entry Page https://blog.joehuffman.org/
Visit Exit Page https://blog.joehuffman.org/
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor’s Time Oct 16 2008 3:45:39 pm
Visit Number 370,096

Further investigation revealed that on March 21st of this year they did a search for “”@stopthenra.com” -www” and found me. On May 14th they did a search for ‘”north central idaho” gun’ and found me again. They have done several searches for “Dennis Hennigan” (Brady Campaign attorney) and found my blog.

And yesterday after specifically doing a search for my name they added my blog to their RSS reader. I feel so honored. Hello Sarah, Jim, Dennis, and Paul! I have Just One Question for you. Think about that for a while…

Yesterday was apparently good day to be noticed because New York City got my opinion on the issue of microstamping (Google ranks my blog post #1 with a search phrase of “microstamping research”):

Domain Name nyc.gov ? (U.S. Government)
IP Address 161.185.151.# (City of New York)
ISP City of New York
Location
Continent  : North America
Country  : United States  (Facts)
State  : New York
City  : Brooklyn
Lat/Long  : 40.6525, -73.9554 (Map)
Distance  : 2,162 miles
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor
Resolution  : 1024 x 768
Color Depth  : 32 bits
Time of Visit Oct 16 2008 1:55:43 pm
Last Page View Oct 16 2008 1:55:43 pm
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://blog.joehuffman.org/content/binary/MicrostampingSEM.jpg&imgrefurl=https://blog.joehuffman.org/2008/02/18/MicrostampingResearch.aspx&h=515&w=516&sz=38&tbnid=9x03aBEr7zUJ::&tbnh=131&tbnw=131&hl=en&prev=/images%3Fq%3
Visit Entry Page https://blog.joehuffman.org/2008/02/17/microstamping-research/
Visit Exit Page http://blog.joehuffm…tampingResearch.aspx
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor’s Time Oct 16 2008 4:55:43 pm
Visit Number 370,120

 

Sometimes I feel rather impotent (in a way Viagra can’t help) in regards to what is happening to freedom and gun rights in this country and the world. Even Boomershoot, which I consider my greatest accomplishment, seems like too little but when I think of my impact in terms of what it was 10 years ago or compared to the impact of the non-professional gun bigots like Robyn Ringler I’m doing fairly well. I’m not a Wayne LaPierre, Alan Gottlieb, Alan Gura, Joe Waldron, Dave Kopel, David Hardy, or an Ashley N. Varner. But other gun bloggers and I are doing okay for not being on the payroll (the wheelbarrows full of cash aren’t part of the official payroll) at the Apex of the Triangle of Death. I don’t know if it is enough but we are having an noticeable impact.

 

Update: I was also quoted in a newspaper last week which may have been the reason the Brady Bunch became interested in me.

Quote of the day–David B. Kopel

There is no doubt that an abused woman is at much greater risk if her abuser has a gun. However, research shows no heightened risk to an abuse victim who lives apart from the abuser and who has her own gun. An abuser’s being armed creates a 7.59 odds ratio for increased risk of femicide. Living alone and having a gun yields an odds ratio of 0.22, far below the 2.0 level necessary for statistical significance. Jacquelyn Campbell et al., Risk Factors for Femicide in Abusive Relationships, 93 AM.J.PUB. HEALTH 1089, 1090-92 (2003). Petitioners and their amici relentlessly cite variants of the first figure, but ignore the second figure.


David B. Kopel
Brief of The International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association (ILEETA), The International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors (IALEFI), Maryland State Lodge, Fraternal Order of Police, Southern States Police Benevolent Association, 29 Elected California District Attorneys, San Francisco Veteran Police Officers Association, Long Beach Police Officers Association, Texas Police Chiefs Association, Texas Municipal Police Association, New York State Association of Auxiliary Police,Mendocino County, Calif., Sheriff Thomas D. Allman, Oregon State Rep. Andy Olson, National Police Defense Foundation, Law Enforcement Alliance of America, and The Independence Institute as amici curiae in support of respondent.
D.C. v. Heller
[Typical. Crow about the dangers but none of the benefits of firearms.–Joe]

Preemption in Washington State stands–for now

The back story is here, here, here, here, here, and here.


An email from Joe Waldron to the WA-Guns email list:



The Attorney General has issued Opinion Number 2008 — 8 that defines
state preemption as it applies to Mayor Nickels attempt to ban guns on
Seattle city property.


In a nutshell, the AG says “preemption means preemption.”


The AGO reads in part:


The question: “Does a city in Washington have the authority to enact a
local law that prohibits the possession of firearms on city property or
in city-owned buildings?”


The answer: “The answer to your question is no. RCW 9.41.290 “fully
occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation” and
preempts a city’s authority to adopt firearms laws or regulations of
application to the general public, unless specifically authorized by
state law. Accordingly, RCW 9.41.290 preempts a city’s authority to
enact local laws that prohibit possession of firearms on city property
or in city-owned facilities.”


He then uses a dozen pages of legalese to explain why the Cherry and
PNWSPA cases (state Supreme Court decisions that went against us) do not
apply here.


AG Opinions are published on the AG’s web site at
http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles/Another/About_the_Office/AGO_Opinions/AGO_Opinion_Archives/Indices%20Yearly%20Report%202007.pdf


AGO 2008-8 is not posted yet, but should be shortly.


In all, to these non-lawyerly eyes, a well written stick to poke in
Mayor Nickels’ eye.


Another win for the good guys.


We need to thank Senator Morton (R-7), Representative Van De Wege (D-24)
and those other legislators who made the formal request to the AG for
this opinion.


And now for the down side: We can expect a frontal assault on
preemption in Olympia when the legislature goes back into session in
January. They’ve tried it before, and didn’t have quite the number of
votes they needed to pass. With ACORN & Co working overtime to register
fraudulent voters for the presidential election, we can anticipate
Democrat gains in the 2009-2010 legislature. That MAY be enough to push
them over the top.


Joe W

Quote of the day–Richard Pearson

I’d like to remind you that I’m a guy who has actually gone nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even begin to identify with this nation’s outdoor traditions. The Obama I know sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants – so long as people are willing to give it to him.


Richard Pearson
October 15, 2008
Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson Issues Open Letter to Nation’s Sportsmen Regarding Obama’s History in the Illinois Senate
[H/T to Sebastian. See also GunBaNObama.com. And that totally ignores his anti-First Amendment activities and his apparently complete disregard for the U.S. Constitution as a whole. See also The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate. That book will really open your eyes. He won at least two of his state legislative offices by kicking his opponents out of the race–Chicago politics at their finest. You can be sure he will bring change you can believe in to Washington D.C.. There is also his close relationship with Reverend “Snuffy” Pfleger (not to be confused with Reverend Wright) and so many other unsavory things that people that should know greatly fear his rise to power.–Joe]

Wow!

Say Uncle says Frightening, Third Power says Baghdad Chicago, Mike Vanderboegh says be careful what you wish for, Dave Codrea says:



Mary Mitchell’s America is a police state.

I notice she acknowledged force was used. I note she says “Forget it” for any rights-based disagreement, removing any will but hers from the decision.

How many men who disagree is Mary willing to see destroyed to enact her totalitarian agenda? Anybody not think creatures just like her enabled killing fields?

This wretched harridan is nothing less than a domestic enemy. The Chicago Sun-Times, which gives her a platform, is an instrument of subversion.

Anyone who thinks such as these will ever allow us to peacefully coexist is a fool.


All over what Mary Mitchell says:



Secret Service, sheriff’s deputies, Chicago Police officers and plainclothes officers are scattered throughout the area.


Frankly, I felt like I had just entered the safest zone in America.


For the first time — in a long time –while on the South Side, I didn’t worry about leaving my car parked on the street or about walking back to it several hours later in the dark.


Obviously, law enforcement is doing what needs to be done to ensure a presidential candidate’s safety.


But it does make me think.


Obama’s neighbors have been forced to give up certain of their personal freedoms in order to ensure his safety.


Unsuspecting pedestrians are questioned when they go around the barricades. Similar to a gated community, guests who visit Obama’s neighbors have to identify themselves.


Although I’m a journalist, the presumption on the part of the Secret Service is the same as it is for the Fruit of Islam who guard the Nation of Islam headquarters a few blocks away.


An agent rifled through my purse and searched my backpack.


More than a few dog-walkers strolled past without so much as a backward glance at my outspread arms as the agent checked me with a hand-held metal detector.


Aldermen and activists who are struggling to stop the bloodbath on the South Side may have to resort to the same aggressive policing that is being used to protect Obama.


Hundreds of people have been killed in the city this year because of street violence.


It is a crisis.


And a crisis requires drastic intervention, not rhetoric.


There’s no telling how many guns would be taken off the street in gang- and drug-plagued neighborhoods if police were to set up roadblocks and search everyone going into those areas.


For those of you who argue that what I am proposing violates basic civil rights, forget it.


When you go to an airport or into most schools, you have to walk through a metal detector.


This is Chicago, not Alaska.


Wow! Just wow!


Any other words I am inclined to say could be used against me…

Quote of the day–Mike of Gun Guys

If a domestic violence report is filed, the police should forcefully search for any and all weapons owned by the alleged abuser. The police should have broad discretion and lean on the side of protecting women and not worrying about a batterer’s “gun rights”. If a woman’s charges of domestic violence are unwarranted, then a gun owner can get their rights restored later — that’s why we have a court system and procedures.


Mike of Gun Guys
April 4, 2008
With So Many Men Owning Guns, Domestic Violence Is Difficult to Prevent for Justice System
[And the reason we don’t violate a person’s rights on the basis of a single accusation is because we have a court system and procedures. If someone is not fit to own a gun then prove it in court where the gun owner has a chance to defend themselves. If these guys applied the same logic to the First Amendment they would change their tune. On the first accusation of them using their website to lie about the NRA or gun owners their website would be taken down, all their computers confiscated, and they would be forbidden to talk to the media. They could try to prove the charge of libel was unwarranted later in court. If they were lucky their First Amendment rights would be restored sometime within the next year after spended tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees.


See also my other comments about this same post here.–Joe]

Our trip through airport security theater

This particular rights violation session wasn’t as bad as some. As Barb said, “They were pretty good about guns here. Much better than Denver.” I can’t find where I wrote up my Denver experience but here is someone else’s experience. I have to agree but it’s still aggravating to be searched by government agents without a warrant or probable cause.

As I was researching this post I reviewed the TSA website again. I may have gotten lucky when TSA let me get through with three of my STI magazines in carry-on baggage. They saw them in the x-ray and pulled the bag off for further inspection while a police officer watched. They examined each of the magazines for ammunition, asked if I was law enforcement, and told me to have a nice trip.

The TSA says this about firearms parts:

You may only transport firearms, ammunition and firearm parts in your checked baggage. Firearms, ammunition and firearm parts are prohibited from carry-on baggage.

I guess it depends on what you define a firearm part to be.

More Obama ads from the NRA

Obama is trying to trample on the first amendment. And then Obama saying, “Don’t tell me words don’t matter” in combination with saying people with “traditional values” cling to their guns and religion.

Quote of the day–Jacques Yves Cousteau

The real cure for our environmental problems is to understand that our job is to salvage Mother Nature. We are facing a formidable enemy in this field. It is the hunters… and to convince them to leave their guns on the wall is going to be very difficult.


Jacques Yves Cousteau
[This is widely attributed to Cousteau but I have not been able to find the context. Regardless this is a very mild version of what a great number of people believe. What they don’t understand is that hunters and other shooters raise more money and do more for wildlife preservation than, probably, any other group. Bigotry is an ugly thing.–Joe]

I know that guy

Say Uncle says he knows the guy quoted in the newspaper article. The article is about the NRA ad being correct when it says Obama voted for a bill that would have outlawed most common hunting ammo. Obama and others on the left say the NRA ad is a lie. The reporter quotes a gun blogger as a reference to support the NRA’s claim. I know that guy too.


That blogger would be me and this blog post.


Sebastian also noticed.


What I noticed was that the headline to the article wasn’t something to the effect that “NRA is right–Obama tried to ban hunting ammo” but instead, “NRA ad draws fire for dubious claims”.


What media bias?

Quote of the day–M. Carol Bambery

What the District’s current firearms laws do is manifest “gross indifference” to the self-defense needs of women. Effectively banning the possession of handguns ignores biological differences between men and women, and in fact allows gender-inspired violence free rein. Those biological differences should, under these limited circumstances, be influential to the Court’s decision.


M. Carol Bambery
Brief of amicae curiae 126 women state legislators and academics in support of respondent in D.C. v. Heller.
[A lot of people in the gun rights community worry about the aging of the gun owning population and the need to get young people into the culture. Just as important and, in a logical sense, an easier sell is to get women into the culture. Defense of self and defense of your family is a very powerful argument.–Joe]