Category Archives: Gun Rights

Quote of the day—Cody Wilson

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People come to me and say, ‘Cody, tell us why you want to do it.’ No, no – more like all these authorities, all these powers, they will have to justify why they should have the right to stop me.

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If they could build a system that could prevent people from downloading that pistol, it would be far more dangerous and the effects would be far more terrible than that little pistol. Power wants to know everything, surveil everything, absorb everything. This impulse should be checked.

Cody Wilson
August 14, 2018
3D-printed gun inventor welcomes Seattle legal battle
[I would make the correction that it is actually all these authorities will have to prove they have powers delegated by the people to do what they are attempting to do. The 1st and 2nd Amendments reinforce the fact the Constitution did not give them any such power.

Also, I would say, “must be checked” rather than “should be checked.” It fails my Jews In The Attic Test.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Rob Shattuck @RobShattuckAL06

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I think expanded police forces and police technology, subject to civilian control, will be sufficient to do any necessary killing of citizens who are needed to be killed.

Rob Shattuck @RobShattuckAL06
Candidate for U.S. Congress
Alabama 6th District
Tweeted on August 17, 2018
[The background for this is a gun control thread:

There are many laws banning or restricting items for which there is a market. It is true such laws can have limited or no success (e.g., Prohibition, unlawful drugs, child pornography). I don’t think society is ready to give up trying to impose restrictions. #alpolitics

Rob Shattuck‏ @RobShattuckAL06 Aug 16

And none of those three things are protected by the Constitution. This time you are targeting a specific class of items that is protected by the Constitution. There is a big difference.

It’s the end of the World as we know it…again‏ @AntCar0123 Aug 17

And laws banning those items tend to have a reverse effect as those items become more available. Hell, prohibition helped usher in the age of organized crime.

It’s the end of the World as we know it…again‏ @AntCar0123 Aug 17

I have acknowledged problems and difficulties society has in enacting restrictions and prohibitions. I don’t think those problems should be considered an absolute impediment to restricting guns. #alpolitics

Rob Shattuck‏ @RobShattuckAL06 Aug 17

Have you acknowledged that you’d need many people with guns and the willingness to kill their fellow citizens to properly enforce such a thing? Have you acknowledged that as you push for more restrictions the other side will push against you harder?

It’s the end of the World as we know it…again‏ @AntCar0123 Aug 17

While it is a little unusual for leftists to openly admit it, if you dig deep enough it always boils down to this:

CollectivismExecution

It’s very generous of a candidate for U.S. congress to confess this is what he has in mind for U.S. gun owners. One has to wonder if he is bright enough to realize he probably just got himself put on a few lists of people who do not plan on being on the receiving end of the rifles.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Mark Brockway

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So much ado about nothing. People have been making guns since the founding of our nation. As far as these files go, they are already out there and anyone can get them. Criminals don’t make crappy ass plastic guns, they simply buy quality firearms from the black market or steal them. More political grandstanding by Ferguson to make his sheep feel safe. The only way you’ll ever be safe is if you take some personal responsibility and learn self defense by the method of your choosing (martial arts, knife, firearms or all the above). Practice self awareness and get training. The police and government are under no legal obligation to protect you. Stop being a victim and take control of your life.

Mark Brockway
August 16, 2018
Comment to Seattle judge blocks publication of 3D-printed gun design
[I would like to make a minor correction. People were making guns long before the founding of our nation. Other than that, Brockway has it right.—Joe]

Encouraging news on I-1639

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Via the Spokesman Review:

A gun control initiative should not appear on the November ballot because the proposed changes in the law on the petitions that some 378,000 voters signed were not readable, a Thurston County Superior Court judge said.

Judge James Dixon agreed with gun-rights advocates that the size of the print was too small and the proposed changes not clearly marked.

“I have 20-20 vision. I can’t read it,” Dixon said in granting a court order to keep Initiative 1639 off the ballot.

A notice of appeal was filed within minutes after the order was drafted and signed, and will go to the state Supreme Court on an expedited process in an effort to get a decision before counties have to print ballots in early September.

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Safe Schools Safe Communities spent nearly $2.8 million to pay people to gather signatures for the initiative.

Via the Seattle Times:

A Thurston County judge Friday dealt a major blow to a proposed firearms-regulation measure, raising questions about whether Initiative 1639 will appear on Washington’s fall ballot.

Superior Court Judge James Dixon ruled that the formatting of the signature petitions used in the Alliance For Gun Responsibility’s campaign “did not comport” with Washington law.

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Dixon’s decision, however, might not stand for very long, according to Hugh Spitzer, a professor at the University of Washington School of Law.

The state Supreme Court has generally “been quite hesitant to knock out initiatives because of technical defects,” said Spitzer. As a result, Dixon’s decision appears to be “inconsistent with a century of case law,” he added.

I find it “interesting” that the Spokesman Review mentions the size of the print was a critical issue in the decision while the Seattle Time does not even mention print size.

The Washington State Supreme Court has been rather mixed in it’s support of gun ownership in recent years. The Second Amendment Foundation and the NRA have kept this particular legal battle over the process of the initiative rather than the constitutional issues at stake. So perhaps this will somewhat dull the court’s dislike for private gun ownership.

Quote of the day—Kaitlin Bennett

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Repeal all gun laws. We can prevent gun violence if we stop prohibiting non-violent people from getting guns. Gun control only hurts law abiding citizens.

Kaitlin Bennett
August 15, 2018
‘Repeal all gun laws,’ says Kent State’s rifle-carrying graduate behind viral photo
[This was in response to the question:

How can tragedy resulting from gun violence be prevented in the future?

Also, in response to the question:

Parkland survivors and other March for Our Lives organizers have been registering young people to vote and advocating gun-control in a nationwide tour, what would you want to say to them?

She replies:

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If I had to say something to them, it would be come and take it.

It appears she has her act together. I wish I could afford to pay her way to Idaho for Boomershoot 2019 to be our dinner speaker.—Joe]

Quote of the day—kgbudge

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I am reminded, once again, of the old lawyer’s joke. A lawyer begins his opening arguments before SCOTUS:

Your Honors, I’m hear to appeal a decision by the Ninth Circuit Court. And I have other arguments in my favor as well…

kgbudge
August 14, 2018
Comment to Ninth Circuit Returns to Form, Upholds Bizarre California Gun Regulation
[I could see that happening.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jess Grant

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I’m not suggesting we disarm the police or army. Not exactly. But we might want to take a closer look at our culture and try to understand why we’re all so darned gun crazy.

It’s a frontier mentality, I suppose. A couple of hundred years of stealing land and fending off angry natives can really make a culture trigger-happy.

I suggest we start at the top.

I worry about somebody shooting me at the mall, but I worry a lot more about being incinerated by nuclear weapons.

If we’re serious about gun control, we might want to refocus on multilateral nuclear disarmament. To fret about handguns in a world of hair-trigger nuclear weaponry is textbook denial.

Jess Grant
August 14, 2018
A new approach to gun control
[I found to difficult to decide if they were this vacuous because they were naturally this way or if they were exhibiting the effects of the readily available marijuana in Washington state.

In either case, they had crap for brains when they wrote this.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Mike Thompson

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When we take the majority in November you will see a background-checks bill right away.

Mike Thompson
U.S. Representative from California
August 9, 2018
The Democratic Party’s New Litmus Test: Gun Control
Candidates for the 2018 House midterms are pushing a muscular firearms-regulation agenda, a wholesale repositioning after the party for a generation avoided new limits
[Via email from Paul Koning.

Also, from the same article:

Democrats running for Congress in 2018 are pushing a muscular gun-control agenda that represents a wholesale repositioning on the hot-button issue. In this year’s midterm election, gun control has become a party litmus test from which few dissent, alongside abortion rights and support for same-sex marriage.

It is critically important to make this the biggest political miscalculation disaster possible. Find things you can do to contribute to their loss and do them.—Joe]

Quote of the day—J. Effingham Bellweather‏ @SenCassius

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3-D printed guns will be the biggest development in conservatives’ sex lives since the Fleshlight.

J. Effingham Bellweather‏ @SenCassius
Tweeted on July 30, 2018
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

Via a tweet from Jonathan‏ @CorrelA_B.

I have to wonder, is this claim is based on:

  1. Marketing projections
  2. Peer reviewed research
  3. Personal research
  4. Projection

My guess is #4.-Joe]

Quote of the day—Kellie Collins

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When your friends and family are depending on you to make ethical decisions that affect their lives for many years a member of Congress should hold her or himself to a much higher standard than the bare minimum that many GOP members are currently using as a benchmark.

Kellie Collins
February 27, 2017
Get to Know Kellie Collins, Candidate for House Representative in Georgia’s 10th
Update 8/14/2018: Reasoned discourse has broken out. Here is a cached copy.
[That was 18 months ago. Now we have this:

Former candidate charged shooting death of campaign treasurer, backed gun control during race

A former Georgia Congressional candidate is now charged with the murder of her campaign treasurer.

Thomson woman, Kellie Collins, turned herself into the McDuffie County Sheriff’s Office the same day authorities in Aiken County found Curtis Cain’s body in his apartment on Old Powderhouse Road.

Why are progressives so violent? Because it is in their nature.—Joe]

Quote of the day—lamar loquacious platypus

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The best statement on gun control is this:
► “The day you come for my gun, you better bring yours.” ◄

lamar loquacious platypus
August 9, 2018
Comment to Gun Control Proposal Hopes to Make Gun Stores, Ranges Display THIS Outside Their Businesses
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence

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8 kids a day are accidentally killed or injured by FAMILY FIRE. FAMILY FIRE is a shooting involving an improperly stored gun.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence
August 8, 2018
Gun control group targets firearms owners with new ads, seeks common ground
[It’s an “interesting” choice of words. In the video they say, “8 kids a day are accidently killed or injured by FAMILY FIRE”. So, one has to conclude they mean that someone obtained access to an improperly stored gun then a “kid” was killed or injured with that gun.

Let’s look at the numbers from the most recent data from CDC (2016 fatal and non-fatal unintentional injuries) by age:

Age Deaths Injuries Total Daily
0-12 61 547 608 1.66
0-13 64 679 743 2.03
0-14 74 822 896 2.45
0-15 81 1,389 1,470 4.02
0-16 91 1,818 1,909 5.22
0-17 104 1,998 2,102 5.74
0-18 117 2,445 2,562 7.00
0-19 127 2,811 2,938 8.03

Definition of kid:

n.

  1. a) A young goat.
    b) One of the young of certain similar animals.
  2. a) The flesh of a young goat.
    b) Leather made from the skin of a young goat; kidskin.
    c) An article made from this leather.
  3. Informal
    a) A child.
    b) A young person.

Definition of child:

n.

  1. A person’s natural offspring.
  2. A person 14 years and under. A “child” should be distinguished from a “minor” who is anyone under 18 in almost all states.

These numbers include all accidental firearm related injuries and deaths. Not just those “involving an improperly stored gun”. Hence it must be that, if their definitions of “FAMILY FIRE” and “accidently” means “unintentional” then they had to include people even older than 19 in their definition of “kid”.

They have a long history of lies and deception. It is part of their culture. This appears to be yet another example.

That said, it is a worthy goal to reduce injuries and deaths of innocent people. And as presented in the article and in their video they appear to be proposing an educational approach rather than a government mandate. I’m okay with an educational approach as long as they are factual. Using what appears to be a child in the range of six to eight when they must be including those in the range of 20 or 21 is deliberate deception.

If they really wanted to “seek common ground” with me then they must knock off the deliberate lies. And a better approach than “public service announcements facilitated by the Ad Council” would be to target gun owners in stores and at ranges with suggestions for safe storage.

But watching the video it’s clear that is not their objective. It is much more likely this is a campaign to encourage people to not have guns in their homes and/or the first wave of a campaign for mandatory gun storage.

Don’t let your friends and family be fooled by these liars. If someone mentions this ad to you then tell them they have been lied to.—Joe]

Quote of the day—George Parry

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The gun control advocates may not realize it, but they lost the fight long ago. It’s all over but the shouting.

In the meantime, as the war of words continues, there sits DD’s founder, Cody Wilson, having more fun than should be legally allowed. Like a mischievous adolescent waving a laser pointer, he has the gun control cats racing in circles knocking over furniture and banging into walls as they try to catch and hold the elusive bouncing red dot of readily available firearms. Due to the efforts of Wilson and his little company, the government is once again being exposed as a lumbering and ineffectual colossus. All in all, it’s a dramatic public demonstration of the limits of government power and the fecklessness of those who worship at its altar.

And from out here in the cheap seats, it sure is fun to watch.

George Parry
August 6, 2018
The Utter Futility of Gun Control
[While it is futile in the sense of keeping guns out of the hands of violent criminals it is possible to make life difficult for those who wish to be able to keep and bear arms openly.—Joe]

Quote of the day—tjliberty1969

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When this happened I instantly felt something was not right about the botched robbery theory. Within a 72 hour period it hit me that it was a hit. It was during election season and a Democrat (dnc) employee’s murder was in the news and this blew me away. NOT ONE, DAMN THEM TO HELL, DEMOCRAT MENTIONED HOW SETH’S MURDER IS MORE PROOF OF WHY WE NEED GUN CONTROL. Nope all I saw was a couple of them lift the rug and a few others pushing the broom, nothing to see here, move along these aren’t the droids your looking for . These people never miss an opportunity for situation exploitation unless it risks self incrimination. Donna Brazile knows.

tjliberty1969
August 6, 2018
Seth Rich and what got my attention about his murder.
[While I agree there were some odd things about the murder I’m not sure this particular point is all that strong.

It’s interesting to read the comments. The conspiracy theory is in full bloom here.

Something I have recently observed is that high IQ people don’t necessarily follow the data to the truth. But they definitely are more skilled at rationalizing the data to fit their prior conclusions. I suspect this may be a case in point.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Ladd Everitt (@LaddEveritt)

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Says the d**kless loser who needs a gun to feel like a man. No one is afraid of you. We’re going THROUGH you to save lives.

Ladd Everitt (@LaddEveritt)
Director at @1Pulse4America
Ex-@CSGV comms director (2006-2016)
Tweeted July 29, 2018
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

Way to stay classy Ladd. You are really showing your intellect. I’ll bet you get a lots of new converts to your cause with that line of reasoning.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Nick Wing

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The gun lobby has long pushed a vision of the world in which anyone could be armed at any time, and in which you need a gun to defend yourself against that constant threat. By inviting the “era of the downloadable gun,” as Defense Distributed has coined it, we’d be one step closer to that dystopian future.

Nick Wing
August 3, 2018
The Darkly Twisted Logic Behind The NRA’s Support For 3D-Printed Guns
[The only twisted logic I found in the article was in that of the author. Why do they think that just because anyone could be armed at any time would mean there is a constant threat? In most states and locations in the U.S.it is already the case that someone there could be legally armed at any time. And most of the other locations are covered by the easily probable case of someone being illegally armed. The only way I can make sense of his view is if he is living in some sort of fantasy world.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Dana Loesch‏ @DLoesch

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A lot of very sensitive, triggered people out there today. A reminder: never bend a knee to the outrage mob.

Dana Loesch‏ @DLoesch
[Don’t forget:

Have you ever noticed that crazy people will act only as crazy as you let them be?

Tell the children they aren’t going to benefit from throwing a tantrum.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jonathan Lowy

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Judge Kavanaugh must tell the American public whether he will protect their most important right — the right to be safe from gun violence.

Jonathan Lowy
Vice president of litigation at the Brady Campaign and Center to Prevent Gun Violence
July 26, 2018
With Kavanaugh, Court Could Take Aim at Gun Control Laws
[Lowy must believe he is in some alternate universe. In the universe I live in no such right exists. It sounds to me like he is advocating for the “right” of criminals and tyrants to “practice their trade” without fear of meaningful opposition.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Amy Swearer

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President Trump himself tweeted that the idea of approving 3D-printed guns “doesn’t make much sense.”

But the only thing that “doesn’t make much sense” is the hyperbolic response of gun-control advocates to activity protected by both the First and Second Amendments to the Constitution.

Amy Swearer
August 1, 2018
3D guns: Despite the complaints of gun-control advocates, these weapons are protected by the Bill of Rights
[Well… it makes sense if you understand that the gun control advocates want to eliminate the entire Bill of Rights.—Joe]

You won’t hear this from the MSM

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Interesting:

A quarter of Illinois’ county governments have passed resolutions declaring their county a “gun sanctuary,” including those in Brown and Greene counties.

Wow!

This is consistent with other data such as law enforcement say they would not enforce more restrictive gun laws.