Quote of the day—lzatlanta73

the way I think is let people keep their hunting rifles….there is a need for them (I don’t think there is personally) but make it illegal to own hand guns whose only purpose is to kill people. the military can keep what they want….I hate guns of any kind

lzatlanta73
July 25, 2015
Comment to Ted Nugent, Allen West call gun control questions ‘inappropriate’ in Lafayette
[Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Primal Zen

Gun control wouldn’t even work in a utopia… and I don’t know of any utopias that exist.

Primal Zen
June 30, 2015
Comment to Survey: Majority of Americans Not Interested in Gun Control for 2016
[Well… if your utopia is a place where there are no animals capable of making tools I suppose you could say it works. But only because all the tool making animals are extinct rather than you banned firearms.

Strangely enough there are people who think this is a good idea.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Dustin Koellhoffer

In essence, liberal thinking is immature thinking believing that what sounds good is good regardless of results.  This is what becomes their “Law of Unexpected Consequences,” which is only unexpected to them and not to those who think things through.  It is the foundation of their argument that the results of their policies are not what is to be judged, but only their good intentions.  Unfortunately, the Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions.

Dustin Koellhoffer
2015
Liberals Backwards Think
[It goes further than this. It’s not just that good intentions are good enough to them. Many of them are incapable of rational thought.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Alan Korwin

My anti-gun-rights friends — you don’t seem to understand that crimes and atrocities committed by madmen are not valid grounds for infringing on the public’s right to arms — a fundamental freedom. This is why you meet the constant resistance that befuddles and frustrates you.

This is why you meet all the indignant furor and nothing gets done. This is why, from the man currently in the White House to the woman who wants that seat and those who support their anti-rights position, you’re looked down upon. This is why, when you’re literally dancing in the blood of helpless innocent victims, cut down in their prime, you are scorned.

From that insensitive immoral place you come after me and my fellow decent upstanding Americans, with a self-righteous, but more importantly dangerous intention of disarming everyone who didn’t do anything. You don’t need gun control, you need help.

Alan Korwin
July 15, 2015
Church Psychopaths As Law Givers
[Of course Tam said it more succinctly and without trying to be nice to people that aren’t nice to us..—Joe]

Quote of the day—Brody Jenner

I’ve had a couple threesomes in my life. And I was like, Okay, let’s try more. One time I did have four girls and just myself, and that was absolutely too much. I was totally out of my league. It was just not that fun. It was a nightmare, actually. It was too much going on. You’re doing, like, a puppet show. You’re trying to take care of too many girls at once and there’s one of you.

Brody Jenner
July 20, 2015
Brody Jenner Explains Why Fivesomes Are ‘a Nightmare’
[As if you needed to try it to figure that out. Guys tend to greatly overestimate their sexual capacity.

This is one area where women overshadow men by an order of magnitude or more (see the last quote in that post). I sometimes wonder if this is part of the reason why many cultures repress female sexuality. Could it be men are envious of women and would rather repress women than suffer the envy?—Joe]

Quote of the day—William Jefferson Clinton

The Brady bill will make the streets of America so safe that our nation’s police will not even need to carry guns anymore.

William Jefferson Clinton
On TV, while signing the Brady bill in 1993.
Quoted in Sheriff Richard Mack’s book, The Magic of Gun Control.
[Of course everyone knows now that President Clinton is a pathological liar and surely many people, including some of the supporters of the law, knew this was a lie at the time. What many probably didn’t know was that he even the chief advocates for the law who made far more modest claims about the law have a cultural and long history of lies.

But still there are people that believe the near equivalent of this even though just a little bit of rational thought will yield the conclusion that background checks cannot possible do any net good. People have a strong propensity to believe what they want to believe. And don’t get me started on the prior restraint of a specific enumerated right.

See also Robb Allen’s post on the Clinton quote from a couple of years ago.—Joe

Update: This quote may be one of those too good to be true things. Here is the signing speech.]

Quote of the day—Michele Washam

Small penis huh? My goodness, an action-movie badass wannabe like yourself looks SO intimidating with that big gun…

Michele Washam
July 14, 2015
Comment to Judge Orders Anti-Obama Filmmaker D’Souza Receive Psychological Counseling
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!—Joe]

Quote of the day—Daniel Greenfield

These changes are a test of reason. If you can reason, you fail. If you can Doublethink, you pass.

Daniel Greenfield
June 30, 2015
No Truce With The Left
[Reason. I think of it as a test of someone trustworthiness. If they are unwilling or unable to reason I am uncomfortable being around them. I literally don’t have any idea what they might do or say next. Will they claim I attacked them when all I did was smile and say hello? Will they hit me in the head with a rock? I would rather be in the presence of a sociopath because I can model their behavior as looking out for their best interests and make it clear to them it would be irrational for them to cause me harm and in fact it would be in their best interests to have me as their ally.

But the irrational, non-reasoning, person is extremely dangerous. There is no loyalty. There is no mutual benefits. There is only unpredictability. There is only the prospect of chaos, suffering, and death.

Marxism, communism, socialism, whatever variety of leftism and you want to call it, has such a long proven history of poverty and death that only irrational people can support it. Venezuela is only of the most recent examples that went from an “economy was the strongest in South America” in the 1950s to the early 1980s to the massive shortages, unemployment, thriving black market, and the highest misery index score in 2013.

The USSR, mainland China, and many other countries learned their lesson the hard way with massive shortages, mind boggling corruption, and 10s of millions murdered by their own governments. Numerous experiments in the 20th century, on national scales, prove beyond any doubt the benefits of freedom and the hazards of adapting the ways of the leftists. How can anyone ignore the lessons of East versus West Germany? Or North Korea versus South Korea? China versus Hong Kong?

Freedom and capitalism has brought prosperity, and unbelievable technological advancement which benefits the entire world. Yet the political left continue to insist their way is “progress”. These are not rational people. They cannot be trusted. These people are incapable of rational thought and/or are evil. The correct diagnosis does not matter. Greenfield is right. There can be no truce with the left.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Anwar al-Awlaki

If you have the right to slander the Messenger of Allah, we have the right to defend him. If it is part of your freedom of speech to defame Muhammad it is part of our religion to fight you.

Assassinations, bombings, and acts of arson are all legitimate forms of revenge against a system that relishes the sacrilege of Islam in the name of freedom.

Anwar al-Awlaki
From May Our Souls be Sacrificed for You in the July 11, 2010 issue of Inspire via Fanning the Flames of Jihad
[Someone doesn’t understand the concept of rights or freedom. Trying to explain them with ordinary words doesn’t seem to work very well. If someone attempts to exercise their “rights” in the manner suggested above I suggest you have bullets for back up of your words.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Suzyqpie

Guns kill. The fork ate the cake. Same thinking.

Suzyqpie
July 16, 2015
Comment to Gun control activists call for probe of NRA’s political spending
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—bajacalla

now we know exactly why Republicans hate gun control laws: it’s just tooooo haaaaaaaaaard!!!!!

bajacalla
July 15, 2015
Comment to Missing From New York’s Gun Control Law
[This is what they think of you.

In addition to reading comprehension apparently punctuation is too hard for this brainiac.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Bruce Schneier

It’s one thing to have dissatisfied customers. It’s another to have dissatisfied customers with death squads.

Bruce Schneier
July 7, 2015
More on Hacking Team
[If your business model involves customers who enforce their contracts without respect for the legal system I would seriously question the long term viability of your business. There are probably better long term career prospects. I would like to suggest shoveling fresh manure as a better option.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Sebastian

If the anti-gun movement had a patron saint, it would be Gladys Kravitz.

Sebastian
July 10, 2015
They Still Have No Idea What They Are Up Against
[While this is very close to true and very funny I’m surprised Sebastian is old enough to know who Gladys Kravitz is. I’m pretty sure he could have only see the reruns while I saw the shows when they first came out.

The part of the Kravitz character that well represents the anti-gun movement is she was a mostly ignored, shrill, annoying, busybody, attempting to get innocent people in trouble. Even her own husband didn’t much care for her. That’s a pretty good characterization of the anti-gun movement.

The aspect of Gladys Kravitz representing the anti-gun movement that is not true is that in the TV show Kravitz actually knew to within a small margin of error what was going on in her neighbors house and told the truth to anyone who would listen. Everyone, except the target of her campaign, thought she was a nutcase. The anti-gun movement is either totally clueless and/or is deliberately lying to the public.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Nancy Martineza

True fax. #gunsense

NancyMartinezaMarkleysLaw

Nancy Martineza
Tweeted January 23, 2015
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Linoge.

This is probably a fake Twitter account, but still someone, somewhere made the image.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Eric Brakey

When someone with a credible death threat against them has to wait for months before they can carry legally and defend themselves with their jacket on, that says it is not working.

Eric Brakey
Maine State Senator (R-Auburn)
Maine State Police Support Rescinding Concealed Permit Requirement
[When you think about laws and regulations just a little bit you realize anything specific to guns, beyond a few safety rules, are nonsensical.

We have a lot of work left to do but making it easier for people to use their guns without getting into trouble is a step forward. The more people that have and use guns the easier it is for them to realize the magazine restrictions, background checks, registration, and “safe gun” rosters are stupid and infringing upon a specific enumerated right.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Scott H. Greenfield

No, you have no right to feel safe.  You have no constitutional right. You have no moral right. You have no right at all.  You have a right not to be physically harmed, but your feelings, just like everyone else’s, are fair game for bruising.  No one says you have to suffer in silence. Don’t like how your Columbia professor uses classic literature that “triggers” your unsafe feelz? Go to Dartmouth. Don’t like how other people on the internets call you stupid? Don’t be stupid. Or turn off the computer. Or only click on links to cute kitteh pics.

Or just toughen up already, you special little snowflakes.

Scott H. Greenfield
July 7, 2015
Feelzplainin’ and The Constitutional Right To Triggerdom
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Eighteen states have laws that expand Brady background checks. A recent study shows that states with expanded Brady background checks see 46 percent fewer women murdered with guns by intimate partners; 48 percent fewer law enforcement officers killed by handguns; and 48 percent fewer gun-related suicides.

Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence
July 8, 2015
Charleston Families Join Brady Campaign and Members of Congress to Call for a Vote on Expanding Brady Background Checks
[What they don’t tell you is just as important as what they do tell you.

  • They don’t tell you the details of this “recent study”.
  • They don’t tell you if the total number of women murdered went up or down.
  • They don’t tell you if the total number of law enforcement officers killed went up or down.
  • They don’t tell you if the total number of suicides went up or down.
  • They don’t tell you if the number violent assaults went up or down.
  • They don’t tell you the right to keep and bear arms is independent of the number of crimes committed with guns.

And most importantly they don’t tell you that they have a long history of deception and lies.—Joe]

Quote of the day—James E. Clyburn

But I do know this — we know from our experiences that background checks are effective in preventing a lot of people who should not have guns from getting guns.

James E. Clyburn
July 8, 2015
South Carolina Rep.: Removing Confederate flag matters, but what about guns?
[The CDC has been unable to find convincing evidence of this claim. Does Clyburn have evidence the CDC doesn’t have access too? Of course not. Clyburn doesn’t “know” things the same way as normal people do.

How do I know this for certain? The article also says:

Clyburn said he has “no way of knowing” whether the bill would have stopped the Charleston shooting.

This is our problem. I’ve pointed out this before too. We have a major disconnect when attempting to communicate with anti-gun people. The means by which they determine truth from falsity is completely different from normal people.

We do know whether the bill would have stopped the Charleston shooting. The shooter passed a background check when he obtained his gun. Therefore we know that requiring background checks for sales unrelated to his gun purchase could not have affected his shooting of innocent people. It is magical thinking to believe it would have. These anti-gun people need help with their mental health. They have no business in positions of power. There is no point in attempting “reach a middle ground” with them. The only reason you would negotiate with people this crazy is to buy yourself some time to deal with them in a more appropriate manner.

I’m reminded of something Will Rogers said,

Diplomacy is the art of saying ‘Nice doggie’ until you can find a rock.

If you already have a “rock” there is no point in engaging in diplomacy with them. You instead force them into submission with the minimum amount of effort required.—Joe]

Quote of the day—David Leonhardt

The legalization of same-sex marriage is a potent example of a dominant theme in American history: Over time, civil rights expand, and discrimination ebbs.

As a result, it’s fair to divide the major issues in American political life into two broad categories. In one category are the rights-based issues in which the future can be safely predicted. In the other category — which includes abortion, gun control and climate change — there is far less clarity about the direction of public opinion.

People who favor abortion rights can point to a woman’s right to control her body; people who oppose abortion can point to a fetus’s right to live. People who favor gun rights can point to a gun owner’s right to bear arms; people who favor gun restrictions can point to Americans’ right not to die and be injured by gun violence.

David Leonhardt
June 30, 2015
Why Gun Control and Abortion Are Different From Gay Marriage
[If you read the whole thing he makes some good points. But what is interesting is his handling of the gun issue. Almost his entire treatment of it is contained above.

It is my belief that he is in denial. He doesn’t seem to see that the Second Amendment clearly enumerates the right to keep and bear arms versus some nebulous “right” to be safe from criminal acts. He doesn’t seem to see the importance of the Heller and McDonald decisions.

While we do not have the freedom in the area of guns that we did 100 years ago we certainly are much freer than we were 20 years ago and the momentum is on our side. I could see gun rights on a trajectory that parallels gay rights but lagging by 10 or 20 years. Our “gay marriage” pinnacle analog might be the full legalization of machine guns after mandatory background checks are abolished and we have constitutional carry everywhere. And then my “I have a dream” moment will be realized.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jon Gabriel

Instead of pointing fingers at the innumerates running Athens, they should consider our own situation.


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It’s an imperfect analogy, but imagine the green is your salary, the yellow is the amount you’re spending over your salary, and the red is your MasterCard statement.

Jon Gabriel
June 30, 2015
Athens on the Potomac
[I am not the only one wondering if we are watching a version our future play out in Greece.—Joe]