Quote of the Day
The US is an awful place to compare anything too. They have a ridiculously high murder rate for a developed country and most of it is gun related.
And the whole constitutional thing is ridiculous. Their president is a pedophile who has broken countless constitutional laws. If it actually came to a showdown with between the army and gun owning civilians, the civilians would be massively under powered
UnicornForeverK
August 4, 2025
CMV: The UK would not benefit from more relaxed gun control laws like the US : r/changemyview
It appears to me that UnicornForeverK chose their name well. They have only a tenuous connection to reality. The lack of a solid connection to reality shows in their struggle with creating a coherent line of thought.
I could have spent way more time that it was worth to fisk this, but with a little coaxing Copilot did a decent job:
🧨 Debunking a Lazy Narrative: Guns, Murder, and the Myth of Military Supremacy
Let’s break this down and inject some reality.
🔪 “The US is an awful place to compare anything too. They have a ridiculously high murder rate for a developed country and most of it is gun related.”
Yes, the U.S. has a higher murder rate than most wealthy nations—but it’s not “ridiculously high” in a global context. According to 2023 data:
Country | Total Murder Rate (per 100k) |
---|---|
Jamaica | 49.3 |
Ecuador | 45.7 |
Haiti | 41.1 |
Honduras | 31.4 |
Mexico | 24.9 |
United States | 5.76 |
Canada | 1.98 |
UK | 1.15 |
Germany | 0.91 |
Japan | 0.23 |
Singapore | 0.07 |
Source: World Population Review
The U.S. ranks high among developed nations, but far below many countries in Latin America and the Caribbean. And yes, most U.S. homicides involve firearms—about 4.42 per 100k—but that’s not the same as saying “most murders are gun-related” globally.
📜 “And the whole constitutional thing is ridiculous.”
This is a vague dismissal of a foundational legal framework. The U.S. Constitution has shaped democratic governance worldwide. Criticizing specific interpretations is fair game—but calling the entire system “ridiculous” is like calling the wheel a bad idea because you don’t like traffic laws.
🧑⚖️ “Their president is a pedophile who has broken countless constitutional laws.”
There is no credible evidence to support the pedophile claim. It’s defamatory and baseless.
As for constitutional violations, presidents from both parties have faced legal challenges. Examples include:
- Obama: ACA implementation delays, recess appointments
- Trump: Birthright citizenship EO, inspector general firings, funding freezes5
But “countless” is hyperbole. Most alleged violations are contested in courts and resolved through judicial review—not proven breaches.
🪖 “If it actually came to a showdown between the army and gun owning civilians, the civilians would be massively under powered.”
This is the most interesting—and historically naïve—claim.
🇦🇫 Afghanistan Case Study
The Taliban, with ~85,000 fighters, outlasted the U.S. and NATO over two decades. They used small arms, guerrilla tactics, and local knowledge—not tanks or drones—to win through attrition and ambiguity7.
🇺🇸 Now extrapolate to 100 million armed U.S. civilians:
- Wealth & Education: Civilians have vastly more resources, technical literacy, and access to logistics.
- Veteran Expertise: Millions of former service members with tactical training.
- Infrastructure Access: Civilians live inside the systems the military depends on—power grids, telecom, transportation.
- Cyber Potential: Insider threats could exploit vulnerabilities in command networks, spoof IFF systems, or jam communications10.
- Friend vs. Foe Chaos: Identifying adversaries becomes a nightmare when they wear no uniform and share cultural ties.
Suppressing such a population wouldn’t be a military operation—it would be a civil war. And history shows that civil wars are rarely won by the side with the biggest guns. They’re won—or lost—by legitimacy, endurance, and the ability to navigate chaos.
🧠 Final Thought
This quote isn’t just wrong—it’s dangerously simplistic. It ignores history, misrepresents facts, and underestimates the complexity of power, resistance, and governance. If we’re going to have serious conversations about violence, politics, and the Constitution, we need to start with facts—not slogans.
1 Murder Rate by Country 2025
2 Gun Deaths by Country 2025
3 Top 10 Constitutional Violations By Clinton, Obama, Biden – U.S. Constitution.net
4 Which Us President: Most Constitutional Law Breakers? | LawShun
5 The President and Constitutional Violations: Will the Federal Courts Contain the President’s Power Grabs? – Center for American Progress
6 How big is the Talibanʼs military? | [August Updated]
7 Afghanistan and the Danger of Small Arms Transfers | Cato Institute
8 Military Power Is Insufficient: Learning from Failure in Afghanistan
9 Friend or Foe Identification Systems: Securing the Skies, Seas, and Cyberspace
10 Identification friend or foe – Wikipedia
11 Decoding Identification Friend or Foe Technology – MilitarySphere.com