Quote of the day–Lyle Keeney

Did you ever notice the things we do and consider worthless we call “academic”?

Lyle Keeney
December 29, 2006
[There was no need to make mention of Lyle’s opinion on the quality of our education system. Also of interest while I was visiting UltiMAK yesterday was clutter on his office floor (see below). I wish my employer would let me have that type of clutter around. Not that I would do it, because I’m generally a little neater than that, but it would nice to have the option without being considered a threat to society.–Joe]

Something got their attention

PNNL has been visiting my blog again:

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I wonder if it was the newspaper article or the lawsuit being served…

Quote of the day–USPSA Handgun Competition Rules

Practical competition is open to all reputable persons without regard to occupation. It may specifically not be limited to public servants.

USPSA Handgun Competition Rules
PRINCIPLES of USPSA Competitions
Draft–January 2008
[A reminder for those wishing to become oppressors. Government employees are servants. The way they are kept servants is by the people refusing to allow their right to own and use guns to be infringed. Reminding the servants of the skill of the people is a part of keeping the servants in line. The USPSA is part of that.–Joe]

Gotcha!

Back in the late 90’s when I worked at Microsoft an anti-gun bigot invited a “team of professionals” to put on a presentation for Microsoft people on “Children and gun safety” or some such thing. Microsoft doesn’t (or at least didn’t) allow their facilities to be used for political activities and this bigot had some weasel worded title that made it almost sound like it was an educational instead of political presentation. I arrived 15 minutes or so early to make sure I got a good seat from which to video tape the presentation. I actually arrived before anyone, including the presenters, arrived. When they arrived I helped them bring in their computer and some other materials and help them get connected to power, etc.

By the time the presentation was supposed to start just two other people had showed up. I knew both of them and both were firearms instructors for Insights Training Center who also worked for Microsoft. They were Kevin Kerkam and John Fogh (see the quotes I have from John here). The “team of professionals” decided that with such a small group, I think there were five of them and just the three of us in the audience, that we should have an interactive discussion. But first they demanded that I put away my video camera and refused to tell me why. I finally did and they proceeded to tell us about how lax gun laws were and about all the things that needed to be done to “save the children”. One of the things we discussed was a “waiting period” before one was allowed to purchase a gun. I asked why they thought that was a good idea. And the poor woman told us it was because people needed time to “cool off” before purchasing a weapon. This didn’t really make much sense to me so I asked, “So, if I go into a gun shop, show them my concealed carry permit and a pistol on my hip then they wouldn’t need to make me ‘cool off’ before purchasing another one, right?” She turned a pale shade of gray and looked around at the people beside her as John, Kevin, and I smiled expectantly at her. Her fellow bigots didn’t look any more comfortable than she did and after a five or ten seconds of a deafening silence the head of Washington Ceasefire (I forget his name, but he resigned and went to work someplace else in late 2001 or 2002) spoke up and said something like, “We’re not going to go there.” The presentation went on for a little longer until John and Kevin also asked questions and made comments that made it clear to the “team of professionals” they were talking to people they couldn’t convert and had them outclassed in both brains and preparedness. The head guy called it quits and I went up to talk to him for a while as they packed up. They had made a claim about guns and suicide and he claimed to be friends with a researcher on the topic and in response to one of my questions he was going to “do some more research” on the topic. I exchanged email addresses with him and we discussed how suicide data could be examined to find out if the presence of guns increased the suicide rate. He thought I had some good ideas on how to reduce the potential for errors and biases and agreed to let me know the results of his contact with his suicide researcher friend.

After a week or so I sent him an email and we exchanged several emails on the topic. At first he “hadn’t got around to” contacting his friend and finally he just didn’t answer my emails. What I never told him was that I knew the research had already been done, I knew the results, and I knew he wouldn’t like them. I just wanted to see what kind of response I could get from him when he found out he was wrong on that point too.

I’m reminded of all this because another anti-gun bigot just got nailed on the “cooling off period” ruse. This time in Australia:

A parliamentary inquiry into gun-purchasing regulations has angered Tasmania’s anti-gun lobby.

The changes proposed by the State Government include bringing Tasmania in line with national gun trafficking laws, limiting gun use in the security industry and strengthening licensing processes for firearm dealers.

It has also set up a parliamentary inquiry into whether it is still necessary to have a cooling-off period before a person can buy a second gun.

Gun Control Coalition spokesman Roland Browne is furious.

“The cooling-off period for the second and subsequent firearms protects the community, it’s designed to protect women especially from abuse by firearm owners in the home,” he said.

“That was why it was put into the national firearms agreement in the first place.”

State Police Minister David Llewellyn says the cooling-off period for the purchase of a second gun does not prevent impulsive crime.

“The reason for that cooling-off period was to prevent impulsive buying of firearms that could lead to a crime, someone shooting someone in impulse,” he said.

“They’ve already got a firearm, then obviously it doesn’t actually achieve the outcome if you’re talking about the second firearm.”

Browne is furious? I’ll bet he’s just putting on an act to cover for the embarrassment of being nailed on the snow job they have been pulling on everyone. I’ll bet he would be “furious” if you asked him Just One Question too.

Inauguration of the ‘Roosevelt Courageous Woman’ award

From the Second Amendment Foundation:

BELLEVUE, WA – Recalling that the late former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt was a firm, if not outspoken, advocate of personal defense – she campaigned for civil rights in 1958 in Tennessee with a pistol on her car seat – the Second Amendment Foundation today is inaugurating a new award honoring women who use firearms in lawful defense against a criminal attack.

SAF Founder Alan M. Gottlieb announced the award’s first recipient will be a Mississippi grandmother who fatally shot a would-be robber in October.

…

“We’ve spoken to Harrison County Sheriff George Payne,” Gottlieb added, “who said he is proud of Beth Greer and that she is doing well in the aftermath of this traumatic incident. In defending herself, this courageous lady set an example for others to follow. In the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt, Mrs. Greer demonstrated that when someone has the will and the means to fight back, they can overcome and win.”

Cool!

Let the games begin

About an hour ago I got a call from John Trumbo of the Tri City Herald. He said he had just talked to Battelle about my lawsuit (Word .DOC file). Battelle said they hadn’t been served yet (not surprising) and would only say that I had worked for them between “such and such dates” and that I had worked on Internet security projects. He wanted to confirm with me, as stated in the complaint that I knew of nothing I had done wrong except for the allowing of my wife and daughter to use the company laptop to access the Internet and that it was against company policy. I confirmed that was the case. He stated it was hard to imagine anyone would try to build a case for termination based on their advocation of Second Amendment rights. I agreed but assured him I am certain that is the case. He said, “It will go out tomorrow.” And “Onward and upward I guess.”

We’ll see how my luck (very good for the last several years) with reporters and Second Amendment issues holds up under the pressure of an adversary like Battelle.

Update: It’s out. I can’t complain. I’m thrilled to confirm Battelle still claims the termination was “for violating PNNL policies (involving) inappropriate and unauthorized use of PNNL computers.” That would be the hosting of a personal website on a company computer as they told the Department of Energy which is totally false. And/or it could be the use of the company laptop by my wife and daughter a few times which is true but is not going to be believable as cause for termination to any jury. They are going to have a “fun time” making that case. More on the quandary they are in some other post.

Quote of the day–Josh Sugarmann

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons.

Josh Sugarmann
Conclusion
Assault Weapons and Accessories in America
1988, 42 pages, $6.00
[I’ve made reference to this quote before (and here) but never made it the QOTD. I do that today because Kevin uses it in his post The Other Side. As I mentioned in the comments to Kevin’s post, I have to have a certain amount of admiration for Sugarmann. It was this “study” by Sugarmann that was the seed for the “assault weapon” ban of 1994–all based on the deliberate confusion of the public. Mr. Sugarmann knows the truth and when the ’94 ban was about to sunset in 2004, while other anti-gun bigots were screaming about “blood will flow in the streets”, Sugarmann quietly told people that “not much will change” with the expiration of the ban. He successfully created the ban out of his insight on the ignorance and gullibility of the people and then moved on when he knew the deception could no longer be sustained.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Adolf Hitler

All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it.  Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it.

Adolf Hitler
[This is part of the reason why we have trouble getting our message across to the public. Freedom, whether it is gun rights, right to privacy, or economic rights is more difficult to explain than, “The government will take care of you.” But just because something is simple to explain and appealing to the masses doesn’t mean it’s right. Hitler’s message was simple, appealing to the masses, and totally wrong. Just like the message of the anti-freedom bigots of our country today.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Todd Ellner

I’d love one, but I’d probably get in trouble. Oregon has laws against hunting over a baited field.

Todd Ellner
12/24/2006 10:36 AM
Washington State Concealed Weapons Discussion
[Referring to the picture below which was found at this website.–Joe]

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Quote of the day–Peggy Hevland

That discussion wouldn’t be productive.

Peggy Hevland
Specialist
HRM, CISD
peggy.hevland@pnl.gov
509-375-6523
June 3, 2005
[When I asked, “What specifically did I do wrong?” as she and Byran McMillian were in the process of firing me. It turns out that I later found out why I was being fired–some people had a problem with me being a civil (gun) rights advocate. It’s the quote of the day for today because I just found out the lawsuit papers have been served to McMillian. Peggy…Someday in the not too distant future I believe I’m going to have a very productive discussion with you. Either that you will be held in contempt of court.–Joe]

It’s like a book burning

Only it’s guns. A real downer for the day.

Via Say Uncle.

Quote of the day–Oleg Volk

Waiting for the door-to-door gun confiscation?

Better use that time to prevent them: Vote. Run for office. Train new shooters. Educate fence sitters.

Oleg Volk
November 11, 2006

It’s the accessories that make an outfit.

Speaking of Oleg Volk, Say Uncle points out this picture from Oleg. It makes me wish I had taken pictures of my girls when they shot guns for the first time.

The title for this post is stolen from the commenter dantheserene to Oleg’s post.

Waiting for door-to-door confiscation

I helped Ry with a car problem tonight and he asked me if I had read the Oleg Volk’s post about waiting for door-to-door confiscation of firearms. I hadn’t. He gave me a version that was slightly mangled and said Oleg said it much better. Then in his post about it Ry pointed out the picture for the posting is an UltiMAK equipped rifle.

A portion of Oleg’s advice, “Train new shooters” and “Educate fence-sitters”, is a significant portion of the motivation for Boomershoot.

So what have you done to prevent door-to-door confiscations recently?

Quote of the day–Thomas Jefferson

A bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth, general or particular, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.

Thomas Jefferson
Letter to James Madison
Dec. 20, 1787
[It’s as true today as it was 219 years ago. And keep in mind that the bill of rights is a list of things the government must not do. It is not a list of what it should or must do. There is no “right” to health care, education, or employment. There is a right to due process, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search and seziure, and the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.–Joe]

Making and publishing lists of gun owners

I’m far from the first on this topic but no one I have read has pointed out what comes immediately to mind when I see this sort of thing:

That said, I understand that this will not be well-received everywhere. Some folks complained loudly in the past when, as a matter of routine, this newspaper published the names of those granted permits in Minnehaha County – and likely they will complain loudly now, arguing that it is none of our business whether they have a license to carry a gun.

Some will invoke the Second Amendment, which only protects their right to have guns.

Wrong. The Constitution does not give people the right to own guns. It guarantees that preexisting right will not be infringed (see An Individual Right and search for Cruikshank).

People also have the right to marry someone of a different race–even if it isn’t guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Should those people be registered? Does the public have the right to know who is in an interracial marriage?

The registration and publication of gun owners and their guns only serves one purpose and that is harassment and discrimination. Bigotry is an ugly thing no matter who is practicing it.

Update: My exact same comments also apply to this article.

Honeymoons and Just One Question

One of my favorite Boomershoot stories is that Paul and Tammy celebrated their honeymoon by attending Boomershoot 2001. As popular as Boomershoot is it just doesn’t draw that many honeymooners. But as rare as that is I suspect that a Honeymoon in Iraq is even more rare. In addition to the admiration I have for them performing dangerous work to help secure world peace and stability I’m honored for Chris to claim he reads my blog almost every day and he made a very favorable post about my Just One Question.

Thank you Chris and Desert Lizard. Please make it back safely.

Quote of the day–Mohandas K. Gandhi

I have nothing new to teach the world. Truth and Non-violence are as old as the hills.  All I have done is to try experiments in both on as vast a scale as I could.

Mohandas K. Gandhi
(1869-1948), Indian political and spiritual leader.
Harijan (28 March 1936).
[This is something for gun owners anxious to “push the reset button” to remember. We have truth on our side and for now we have non-violence. Once the non-violence threshold has been breached many of the terrible things they say about us will become true. That is to not to say there isn’t a valid time and place to use violence. It’s just that we must be very careful to have sufficient moral justification for using violence.–Joe]

Constantly choosing the wrong metric

The anti-gun bigots are at it again. They are claiming victory when they fudge the numbers:

Gun-control measures that Australia adopted after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre have eliminated mass killings and halved the number of suicides and deaths from firearms, according to a new study.

There have been no mass killings since the passage of the first measure just after the massacre, researchers led by Simon Chapman at the School of Public Health at the University of Sydney said in the study, published in the December issue of Injury Prevention. In contrast, there were 13 such killings in the 18 years prior. The study covered 1979 to 2003.

“Removing large numbers of rapid-firing firearms from civilians may be an effective way of reducing mass shootings, firearm homicides and firearm suicides,” the authors said.

…

The laws also doubled the pace at which firearm deaths were declining, they said. Gun deaths had been falling by 3 percent a year, and the rate rose to 6 percent after the new rules, the study found. The average number of people killed each month dropped to 332.6 from 627.7, it said. Suicides make up about four out of five firearms deaths; the remainder are either homicides or unintentional deaths.

And what’s your point? Why should anyone care? This totally ignores the possibility of any benefit that might have resulted from people being allowed to own those firearms that were taken from them. The total murder rate and the total violent crime rate are what is important. A reduction in the number of crimes committed with firearms is, by itself, meaningless. You could reduce the number of murders committed with baseball bats by banning the sport and the bats but it’s not going to reduce the total murder rate.

They can’t win being honest with the numbers so they have to cheat. But what can you expect from people that have mental problems?

This is what happens in places without guns–Case XIX

From the U.K. where, if the government hadn’t implemented a Criminal Occupational Safety Act, an “equalizer” from Samuel Colt, John Moses Browning, or Smith & Wesson would make this sort of thing too hazardous of a hobby to partake in this frequently in the same small geographical area and small population:

There are growing concerns tonight that police are drawing a blank in the hunt for the Suffolk Strangler.

Officers from the Suffolk force – one of the smallest in the country – have been “overwhelmed” by the discovery of five bodies in 10 days.

…

One source said: “Even a larger force would have a problem resourcing at this stage. It is six weeks since the first prostitute went missing – and police admit it is a race against time before the killer strikes again.”

Detective Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull, who is leading the manhunt, went on television to say the serial killer is “out of control”. He has murdered five women in six weeks, an unprecedented rate in British criminal history.

Some of the prostitutes in Ipswich’s red-light area have given police names of their customers and detectives are trying to compile a complete list.

…

The numbers of sex workers in the area is said to be about 40, but the hardcore is about 15 – five of whom are now dead.