Quote of the day–2008 Presidential Candidates

As a private citizen, as a prosecutor, as a Mayoral candidate and as Mayor, I have advocated for more regulated and more uniform gun licensing regulations, similar to those for a drivers license.

Rudy Giuliani


We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won’t chip away at them. I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.

Mitt Romney


A few years ago, Congress passed a law to make sure people undergo a simple background check before buying a gun… Problem is, there’s a dangerous loophole because right now the law doesn’t cover most of America’s gun shows.

John McCain


The real effect of these gun-control measures is to place onerous restrictions on law-abiding citizens who use firearms for such legal activities as self-defense, sport-shooting, hunting, and collecting.

Fred Thompson


The Founding Fathers weren’t worried about our being able to bag a duck or a deer, they were worried about our keeping our fundamental freedoms.

Mike Huckabee


I share our Founders’ belief that in a free society each citizen must have the right to keep and bear arms. They ratified the Second Amendment knowing that this right is the guardian of every other right, and they all would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans from exercising this right.

Ron Paul


Via Jeff Knox Candidates on Rights
[There is a fair amount of further information in Knox’s post.–Joe]

Qutoe of the day–National Association for Gun Rights

WHEREAS: The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which provides that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, must be protected by every Member of Congress.

WHEREAS: Sarah Brady and the Gun Control Lobby are already bragging how they are going to work with their allies in Congress to put the right to keep and bear arms on the congressional chopping block.

WHEREAS: Sarah Brady and the rabid gun-grabbers are planning to ban private gun sales, exterminate gun stores, renew the Clinton Gun Ban, enact gun rationing, ban other self-defense guns, expand no-safety zones, make concealed carry permits useless and otherwise infringe on the Gun Rights of Americans.

THEREFORE: Let every U.S. Senator know I’m opposed to such efforts to undermine my right to keep and bear arms and I demand Congress pass “NO MORE GUN CONTROL.”

National Association for Gun Rights
No More Gun Control Petition
[I got a call a few minutes ago asking me to listen to a message from Congresswoman Marilyn Musgrave. I did listen and it asked me to sign the above petition and donate money. I signed the petition but haven’t donated any money. This week I put $1300 into car repairs and it’s not a good time of year for finding extra cash anyway.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Winston Churchill

You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill
[Remember that when you consider “biting your tongue” rather than offend an anti-freedom bigot who deserves to be offended or worse. If you don’t speak up for the things you most strongly believe in then you should not be surprised when you lose the things you most cherish..–Joe]

Quote of the day–Mika Brzezinski

You know, that is the most inane statement I have ever heard.

Mika Brzezinski
December 11, 2007
Video here: 2007-12-11MSNBCMJMika.wmv (2.17 MB)
In response to Joe Scarborough telling her, “One person with a gun in the right place can make a big difference.” in regards to Jeanne Assam stopping the murderer at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs.
Via Mark Finkelstein at NewsBusters and an email from Ashley Varner @ the NRA-ILA.
[No attempt at refuting the claim, just dismiss it. But of course what else could she do other than change her mind? The facts speak for themselves.–Joe]

Whining about legal sales of guns

Just outside the city limits of Chicago there are gun shops selling guns to people that live in the city. That is an entirely legal transaction. They owners of the new guns are prohibited by Chicago law from bringing the guns into the city. Since some of them violate that law the politicians and media are whining and making plans to shut down the gun shops–who did not violate the law. Nothing to see here, just punishing the innocent, move along now.

In Search of the Second Amendment

Anyone with a cursory interest in the Second Amendment can find a lot about the Original Intent of the Framers with just a few quick internet searches and a few minutes of reading.  Why then would we need an exhaustive documentary on it?  Because so many people, knowing what it means and hating it, attempt to deny it using all manner of silly rationalizations.

Now we can drive those people crazy (or bring their already existing craziness into the full light of day) while educating those who are willing.  I just ordered four copies– one to keep, two to give to friends, and one to donate to our local public school library (heh).  (The “heh” is there because, as we all know, most people in our public school system will go bananas over anything that shows even a hint of tolerance or acceptance of gun rights.  60 years ago however, there were still quite a few gun ranges on public school property, so the statement that one would donate literature regarding the original intent of the Framers of our Constitution would have been seen in the appropriate light– as a nice gesture, rather than an attack on their politics.)

Joe and I watched the documentary at his discrete, undisclosed, hardened & secured, intimidating underground bunker facility last month, and I guarantee that you will not be disappointed in this work of scholarly excellence.

Indignation Education verses Real Situation

Thomas Sowell is one of my heroes, but I’ve never known him to comment on guns or shooting until now.

Even within a range of 6 feet or less, the police miss more often than they hit — 57 percent of the shots at that distance miss and 43 percent hit.

As you might expect, there are even fewer hits at longer distances. At 75 feet — which is less than the distance from first base to second base — only 7 percent of the shots hit.

Moreover, just because a shot has hit does not mean that it is now safe to stop shooting.

Sowell wastes not a single word while offering more perspective than an entire flock of regular journalists.

Quote of the day–Jack Hunter

According to both statistics and sheer logic, the very notion of gun control is so patently stupid, that only people with too much education could possibly believe it, and it is no accident that for self-described “progressives,” gun control is often at the top of their list. Call me old fashioned, but I much prefer English statesman Edmund Burke’s observation that “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” And when it comes to these random shootings, allowing as many good men possible the ability to shoot back is our only hope for less deadly results in the future.

Jack Hunter
Columnist
December 11, 2007
WTMA commentary broadcast
The Insane Logic of Gun Control
[And good women.–Joe]

Quote of the day–“NW”

Honestly, and as God as my witness, when I saw him shooting and as watched for a few seconds trying to figure out what he was going to do and what I should do, the thought that when through my mind was, “If I had a gun, I have a perfect shot.”

Yes, a perfect shot. I had a full side profile, I was close, and no one was visible behind him execept a wall. I had a clear shot during the second round of fire. I told this to every cop I came in contact with. The interviewer agreed.

When I realized that I had no gun, fear instantly struck me, along with anger, and severe panic.

[…]

I am very angry at the city of Omaha and the mall for their stupid laws that nearly cost me my life. The laws protected no one, and in my opinion, caused people to die.

“NW”
A witness to the Omaha Mall mass shooting
Via Joe’s Crabby Shack, thanks to an email from Rob.
[People died because some anti-gun bigots didn’t even try to answer Just One Question before they passed criminal rules prohibiting firearms in the mall.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Wayne LaPierre

The days of political candidates being able to duck and run on the Second Amendment issue are over. It’s time to find out what their real positions are, and I challenge every reporter who has access to Hillary to pose these questions to her.

Wayne LaPierre
December 7, 2007
Some Questions for Clinton
A .MP3 version of the entire blog posting is here.
[The Internet and computers furthers the cause of freedom more than the cause of the oppressor.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Mark Twain

It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three benefits: freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never to use either.

Mark Twain
[Reading all the editorials about the Omaha mall shooting reminded me of this. They never bother to consider Just One Question.–Joe]

Word Games

If it hasn’t been said that complexity is the tool of the corrupt politician, I’ll say it here for the record.  This post is a rewrite of a comment I made here.  I thought it deserved its own post.

“…the ATF sent out it’s ATF State Laws and Published Ordinances. Ride Fast notes some numbers:

California, 67 pages, about 120,600 words of regulation.
Massachusetts, 18.5 pages, about 32,400 words.
Nevada, 6.5 pages, about 11,700 words.
Vermont, 1.05 pages, about 1890 words.”

(To those who have so far never cared about the issue enough to look into it; Vermont has historically had a right-to-arms policy close the original intent of the Second Amendment. For example, one may legally carry a concealed pistol without getting government permission.  It is also worth noting that their violent crime rate is lower than those of surrounding states.)

Here are some contrasting numbers:

The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States: One sentence, 27 words.

The Congressional Oath of Office: One paragraph, 73 words.

I assume you’ve all looked it up and saved it, being concerned citizens and all, but to save you the trouble of going to your desktop and clicking on it, here it is again:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Human rights, honesty and reason are relatively simple.  Obfuscation is complex.

Quote of the day–The Everlasting Phelps

If you — my servant — are going to pass a law — and enforce that law using guns — and that law makes me and my fellow permit-holding constituents (who as I mentioned are more law abiding than the average person) so pissed off that we decide to shoot you dead over it — don’t you think that maybe, just maybe, you should rethink your position on that law?

That is the whole point of the Second Amendment, Duhrlene. When you are given the privilege of exercising the state’s privilege of force, you should do so with an armed populace at your back. It’s the American Way, and the more literal it is, the better.

The Everlasting Phelps
June 24, 2004
Shooting Up the Capital
[Regarding banning firearms from government meetings such as legislative sessions and city council meetings. See also the comment here. At numerous times I had thought about posting something along these lines but hadn’t put it in words. Phelps articulated my thoughts quite well.–Joe]

Run in circles, scream and shout

I was browsing some of the bigot sites this evening and ran across this set of pictures (rel=nofollow set on the link so they don’t get a bump in ranking from the search engines). I just can’t see what they think they are accomplishing. I kept thinking of that old adage, “When in danger, when doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. They must actually subscribe to that sort of philosophy. Pictures of people laying on the ground helps in what way?

Their actions remind me that the dead students at Virginia Tech were disarmed by the people that claimed to be protecting them. The people laying on the ground symbolize the people that believe submitting to evil frequently end up dead. It makes me think of “proof by vigorous assertion”. They can’t prove their case with numbers and logic so they have to just insist that lawmakers do things their way. They don’t even bother trying to prove what they want would benefit anyone but the criminals. Just do things their way or they will lay on the ground and have people take pictures.

It doesn’t seem like they are getting their way yet. Maybe if they start screaming and kicking they would get better results. It works for some two-year olds.

Quote of the day–Richard Pearson

By focusing on the non-issue of gun shops, Suffredin is conveniently ignoring the factor that has the greatest impact on violent crime rates. According to the Chicago Police Department, 88% of murderers and 76% of murder victims have previous criminal records. A reasonable person would likely ask why criminals are so likely to be either a perpetrator or a victim in a murder case. The answer is quite simple – the justice system is either unwilling or unable to rehabilitate these dangerous people. Federally-licensed gun shops are not the problem, the revolving door justice system is clearly at fault.

Suffredin’s long standing hatred of guns and the people who own them has clouded his ability to address the issues important to the citizens of Cook County. Thus, he is unqualified to serve as the State’s Attorney for Cook County.

Richard Pearson
December 3, 2007
Proposed Cook County Gun Control Ordinance a Case Study in Politically Motivated Deceit
[Clouded his ability? Yeah, so what else is new? Suffredin should be brought up on felony charges but that isn’t going to happen anytime soon. We need to just keep working toward that goal. The bigots will get their just reward eventually. We are making great progress.–Joe]

Quote of the day–KW Hipps

I just got the new (blue) rule book. It says anyone shooting a classifier at below freezing temperatures in falling snow deserves the crummy score they get.

KW Hipps
Lewiston Pistol Club Discussion Group email list
December 1, 2007
[We have an IPSC match today. The current weather forecast is:

HOUR   Sun
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WIND CHILL(F)   18° 18° 18° 19° 19° 21° 23° 25° 25°
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HUMIDITY   78% 78% 78% 79% 79% 75% 76% 73% 73%
WIND (MPH)   SE 21 SE 21 SE 22 SE 23 SE 24 SE 22 E 20 E 18 E 18

We start shooting at 10:00 and probably won’t be done until 12:00 (the wimps won’t be there so it shouldn’t take too long). 20 to 25 MPH winds and snowing. This is practical shooting. Caleb and I plan be there. Pictures later if I manage to make it over Snoqualime Pass this afternoon on my way back to the Seattle area. The current pass report:

Conditions & Weather:
Snow, slush and ice on the roadway. Interstate 90 eastbound is reduced to one lane as the WSP performs chain enforcement near milepost 34. // Snowing hard, poor visibility

 

Updated: 5:23 AM, Dec 2, 2007
This is the most current info available
and is promptly updated when conditions change.

Today is going to be an interesting day. Perhaps Serenity Washburn ‘interesting’.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Dan Cunningham

Those who believe that individual rights are more important than public safety often side with reduced gun control laws. On the other hand, those that think other individuals are unable to control their own behaviors, and therefore the law needs to influence the gun supply, would certainly side with increased government control of firearms.

Dan Cunningham
Strive For Balance In Gun Control
[This is just the beginning of his half-truths, incorrect assumptions, and outright falsehoods. He apparently does not realize it’s possible, or even more likely, to have both freedom and safety then goes on to create the case for his bigoted beliefs.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Alan Gottlieb and Mark Taff

This is not a summit; it’s a kangaroo court, and the outcome is as predictable as the verdicts in the Salem witch trials. Nickels and his gun control cronies merely want a showpiece to alarm the public into supporting their extremist agenda, which is not now, and never has been, in the public’s best interest.

Alan Gottlieb and Mark Taff
Guest columnists at the Seattle PI
Alan Gottlieb is founder of the Bellevue-based Second Amendment Foundation.
Mark Taff is executive director of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Nickels’ gun summit is all for show
[Via an email from Uncle. See also the background material.

I was seriously considering showing up with my camera and a bunch of handouts of Section 24 of the Washington State Constitution with 18 USC 241 and 242 for attendees as they arrived. Unfortunately I have a appointment with my dentist to get some surgery done on an infected tooth at 8:00 AM that has been waiting a month because there weren’t any earlier openings. Then I have a design review at work that I am going to be late for because of the dentist appointment. I just won’t be able to attend at an appropriate time. And just after the oral surgery I’m likely to be a bit cranky and of course armed. That wouldn’t be the best condition to face the press should they show up.

Does anyone else want to show up with the handouts if I do the printing?–Joe]

That must really hurt

The Gun Guys are whining about all the “pandering to the gun extremists” in the CNN YouTube debate last night.

The only whining I would do over it would be that I don’t trust Giuliani and Romneny when they say they support an individual RKBA.

But then it occurred to me that I don’t know of a single presidental candidate that is even giving the bigots like the Gun Guys and the Brady Bunch a little bit of lip service. That has to be a extremely painful change from ten or twelve years ago.

Inside their minds

I often get frustrated wondering “What are they thinking? Do they actually think? Are they capable of thinking?”

For example, in my mind people are not consistent when they expanded the meaning of the 1st Amendment to include things that did not exist (such as the Internet) at the time of the writing of the Bill of Rights. Yet those same people intend to negate the 2nd Amendment by excluding things that didn’t exist at the time of it’s creation. What’s up with that? Are you insane?

This article helps with a certain aspects of those types of questions I have had.

In interpreting the Constitution, judges pay attention to social practices, and not only to judicial precedents. If federal and state governments have long regulated gun use, creating a tradition of such regulation, many judges would be reluctant to invoke the original understanding in order to upset that tradition. Tushnet finds that, since the Civil War, gun regulation has been common–and it has rarely been challenged on constitutional grounds. He concludes that the last century and a half shows a simple pattern: “A substantial body of laws regulating weapons possession and a small number of opinions addressing Second Amendment objections to such laws, with no opinions from appellate courts invalidating any modern regulations, and an apparent lack of interest by the Supreme Court in taking fundamental Second Amendment questions.”

[…]

In Tushnet’s view, there is an evident conflict between the original understanding and the legal arguments based on judicial precedents and social practices. He urges that in the face of such conflicts, the original understanding tends to yield. In the context of free speech, for example, we have gone far beyond the original understanding, protecting commercial advertising and even political dissent in ways that would have astonished the founding generation. Tushnet thinks that if we reject originalism, we will probably conclude, on the basis of social practices and judicial decisions, that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right.

This gives me a model to conclude they aren’t entirely insane. It does sort of make sense. I worry about the Supreme Court in the D.C. v. Heller case considering the impact on all the people that deserve to be locked up but prosecutors only charged them with gun violations because it was so much easier than proving they had committed some violent crime. If the Court comes strikes down the D.C. law there will be lots of people in jail appealing their convictions. The disruption to society could be significant. The historical aspect of the laws and our society have to be somewhere in the minds of the justices.

But translating the logic above to an analogous situation will make my take on this clear:

In the deep south during the last century there was a long history of social practices, judicial precedents, and traditions of regulation of people of color. Therefore it is entirely appropriate during the 1960’s the courts should have rejected the original intent of the 13th Amendment and allowed whatever law the states and cities thought were “common-sense” for their situation.

Not!

There is only one correct way to handle this. If a government entity wants to implement a law that violates some original intent of the Constitution there is a proper way to go about that. They can amend the constitution to allow non-original intent. Anything else is a rationalization, an extremely serious threat to our enumerated powers form of government, and death to freedom.