Category Archives: Gun Rights

Quote of the day–Jim Purdy

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Why do we need so many dang guns? Wouldn’t the world be a better place with fewer weapons? I haven’t had a gun since the one I had in the U.S. Army in the 1960s.


Jim Purdy
Tulsa (11/9/2008 3:52:49 AM)
Comment to Obama win spurs gun purchases
[Try selling the idea that fewer guns would make the world a better place to these people:



Oh yeah. That’s right. You can’t convinced them of that because they are dead. They are dead because their own government murdered them. With only a few thousand thugs actually involved in the murdering of 10 million people the victims would only had needed a kill ratio of 1:100 to have completely stopped the butchery. But guess what–their government took their guns away from them with Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons. They had no effective weapons to defend themselves and you, Mr. Purdy and President-Elect Obama, want to recreate the same conditions here.


No thanks. Keep the change.–Joe]

What my neighbor said

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Laurel lives close by and recently had this to say about the Obama “transition plan” in regards to firearms:



Hey, at least you really can’t accuse me of unfoundedly predicting impending doom at this point, considering the arrogant bastard is openly flaunting his intention to wage war on my rights.


Fine. If Obama wants to see our rifles on a battlefield, we’ll give him a battlefield. Μολὼν λαβέ.


I’m done blogging for today. I have software for the battlefield to finish.

Like that will happen

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Sebastian said,



Hope/Change is soliciting feedback. Be sure to give them some.


So I went to the website and said:



The Second Amendment guarantees a specific enumerated right which is being violated by numerous state and local officials. Prohibitions against certain types of firearms such as so called “assault weapons”, prohibitions against carrying of handguns for self defense, and prohibitions against buying and selling of firearms without approval of the government are just a few of the many violations of this essential civil right. I would like for the Justice Department to enforce 18 USC 242 and prosecute the government officials involved in these violations.

Quote of the day–Alan Gottlieb

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This is still the United States, not a socialist gulag. Public money should not be given to private organizations which then turn around and utilize that funding to usurp the electoral process and erode constitutionally-guaranteed civil rights.


Alan Gottlieb
October 28, 2008
‘ACORN USES PUBLIC FUNDS TO STEAL ELECTIONS, NOW YOUR GUN RIGHTS,’ SAYS SAF
[H/T to Jeff for putting me on the trail for this one.–Joe]

Preparing to fight

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Jeff Knox tells us where he and Mike Vanderboegh agree on the idea of using arms against a repressive government.


That’s all for today. I have more software to write.

Bigot meme in public usage

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I’ve been pushing the anti-gun people as bigots meme for quite a while now (since nearly day one on my blog). Here that concept gets mentioned in a more public venue:

Sigler described Massachusetts as a tolerant state, in terms of race and sexual orientation, but criticized the state’s intolerance towards handguns, saying lawmakers are “[promoting] bigotry against gun owners.” He even proposed that because of these laws, citizens are forced to hide their guns as if they were obscene or wrong, and are ultimately treated as second-class citizens.

Good. It’s one of the few defenses we have against the next administration in the White House.

My town in a UK paper

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Nice article. Laurel has the story. There is even a picture of Sarah Palin sitting on the bed of her University of Idaho dorm room. The article is here. It starts out like this:



They tell me that about one person in 50 on the streets of Moscow, Idaho, is legally carrying a concealed pistol. A lot more have them in their cars. I rather approve of this, though I don’t think I’ll join in.

Keeping up the fight

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There are still lots of things to be done. People have a delaying action to do and a few have some attacks they can make in the short term. The Second Amendment Foundation just announced one of those attacks that can probably bear fruit:



BELLEVUE, Wash., Nov 04, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — The Second Amendment Foundation, joined by the National Rifle Association, today filed a lawsuit in federal court against the State of Washington, seeking to overturn a state law that discriminates against legal resident aliens who own firearms by violating their Second Amendment rights under the equal protections affirmed by the 14th Amendment.


The SAF/NRA suit is joined by three legal resident aliens who face loss of jobs and firearms collections, and possible prosecution for owning a gun for self-defense when their current Alien Firearms Licenses (AFL) expire. Under a statute unique to Washington State, aliens must possess an AFL to legally possess firearms.


Also named in the lawsuit are Liz Luce, director of the State Department of Licensing and Paul D. Ayers, chief of police in Issaquah, WA where two of the resident plaintiffs live. Ayers is a defendant for not issuing concealed pistol licenses (CPL) to plaintiffs Roelof Kroes, a South African national, and Adrian Coombes, a British citizen. The other plaintiff is Philip Grady, also a British national and a resident of Everett.


Among the aspects of the case are that are interesting to me are that I know Roelof Kroes and Adrian Coombes. Roelof has been to several Boomershoots and Adrian is the guy I worked with at the FFL to get my Gun Blog 45 from Para. And of course I know people at the Second Amendment Foundation. They get money from me which is matched dollar for dollar from Microsoft.

Game over man, game over

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Obama is our next president. The Federal courts have huge vacancy rates that will be filled by Obama and the Democrat dominated Senate.


Last month I made more posts, 127, than I ever have in a single month. The extra can be attributed to Obama.


At this point talking and writing isn’t going to have much effect on our fight for freedom. It’s game over man, game over. I’m going to be spending far less time reading blogs and posting. I have a bunch of software I want to write and I’m going to be concentrating on getting that out the door instead of spending so much time with the blogs.

Depression

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I’m very depressed today. I can’t even blame it on Internet sex (it should be safe for work). It’s the election. I voted yesterday and I think that started it.


Then at the cafeteria at work there is a woman that for some reason has been particularly friendly to me. She recognizes when I show up at a different time than usual and always wants to talk a bit (it’s time to introduce her to my wife…). Yesterday she asked if I was excited about “the big day tomorrow”. I told her I was rather depressed about it actually–it is the choice between the lesser of two evils. I then asked if she was excited about it. “I. Am. SO. Excited. About it.” she said. I wanted to tell her how many people were murdered last century by attempts to make socialism work. Was she excited to be a part of the next attempt? Was she looking forward to adding her body and the bodies of millions of others to the pile?


It’s the Second Coming or something. Once the Messiah is on his throne all will be forgiven, all will be peace and love.


I see ethics, rules, and the law do not matter to them. I see Brown Shirts.

Sweet!

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It’s not a felony conviction and prison time but it amounts to a fine for attempting to infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

Obama’s playbook of deception

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John Sigler, NRA President, has an article on Barack Obama’s playbook of deception on guns. In it he articulates the carefully crafted words and phrases used by Obama and friends in their attempt to deceive Americans about guns and where they came from. Examples:



The bait-and-switch gimmick of employing rhetorical tricks to hide very real gun control agendas, and to create a fraudulent history to assure that “your gun record does not define your candidacy” are the central lessons offered in a political/propaganda playbook or script proffered by something called the Third Way.


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The problem that progressives have on the gun issue has far less to do with the typical policies they espouse than the rhetoric they employ.” – The Third Way


“It’s critical that progressives recognize that only an aggressive outreach strategy to gun owners will ensure that your opponent’s message about your gun record does not define your candidacy.” – The Third Way


He doesn’t mention it but there is another source for Barack Obama’s rhetoric. I have an Americans for Gun Safety document from 2003 which provides the details of the research done which contributed to the “Third Way” plans published in 2006 and earlier this year.


From the 2003 document comes this advice (next to the last page):



Our gun rights come with the responsibility to keep them out of the hands of criminals terrorists and children.


I support gun safety measures like criminal background checks on all sales at gun shows and tough enforcement of existing gun laws.


I agree with President Bush that we need to renew the ban on assault weapons.


I take a back seat to no one in support of second amendment rights but I also support requiring criminal background checks at gun shows and continuing the ban on assault weapons.


From 2006 (read the document for the details of what these steps mean):



Step 1: Reject the Conventional Wisdom on Guns


Step 2: Own the Second Amendment

Step 3: Redefine the Issue from Gun Control to Gun Safety


Step 4: Criticize Conservatives for Failing to Enforce Existing Gun Laws


Step 5: Promote Centrist Gun Policies with Centrist Language

Step 6: Take Your Message Directly to Gun Owners – Don’t Let Your Opponent Define You


Step 7: Implement Your Gun Plan and Watch the Gun Votes Roll In 


Here is what they say about guns in September 2008:



One of the greatest predictors of voting behavior is gun ownership, and roughly 45% of the nation has a gun in the home. For most of the past eight years, John McCain has been enemy number one among NRA enthusiasts (based on his authorship of the gun show loophole bill and campaign finance reform). He has now made amends with NRA leadership and the choice of Palin makes this a NRA dream ticket. (See the cover of this week’s Newsweek.)


Be aware that while Americans generally hate special interest groups, they have a modestly positive view toward the NRA. At the same time, they are tired of the fight on this issue like on other culture issues. We suggest the following message:


I take a back seat to no one in support of Second Amendment rights, but those rights don’t extend to terrorists and criminals. That is why I support the John McCain bill to close the gun show loophole.


Conservatives are up to their old tricks. There is no argument over the Second Amendment; they just want to pick a fight and divide this nation for short term political gain.


Progressives should make clear that they support both an individual’s Second Amendment right to own firearms for protection, collection, and sport, and also reasonable restrictions to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists. There is no contradiction in this message, and it’s also popular. A poll we conducted on guns revealed that 89% of voters believe the Second Amendment confers an individual right to own firearms; however, 73% believe that the right allows for reasonable restrictions.


Nowhere do they say “progressives” need to change their objectives. They only need to change their language.


Barack Obama is reading his lines from anti-gun people who have been carefully researching for years what words work best so the target audience hears what they want to hear while still leaving him open to ban certain guns and destroy gun shows.


Paul Simon could have been singing about what Barack Obama is hoping will happen with gun owners:



All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.


Paul Simon
Recorded 1968
The Boxer

I’m envious

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It’s been a long time since I got hate mail like this. And for me it was just the one person.

Some people have all the fun.

I need to go blow up some pumpkins tomorrow to make myself feel better.

If you can’t win fairly

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I call myself a loser if I lose when everyone plays by the rules. Obama supporters lie and cheat. It’s what socialists do. It’s in their rule book (written by Marx).


Update: The link above is broken. Here is the original content I was linking to:



NRA-ILA Alert Members of Deceptive Tactics By Obama Supporters


Friday, October 31, 2008
Fairfax, VA–The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) today sent the following email alert to members following reports of deceptive phone calls in support of Barack Obama. The callers falsely claim to be from NRA and attribute Senator John McCain’s pro-gun voting record to that of Obama.


Dear NRA Member,
It has come to our attention that with Halloween upon us, the Barack Obama campaign and its allies are up to dirty political tricks.


NRA members in key presidential battleground states have informed us they have received deliberately misleading phone calls from someone professing to represent the NRA, asking voters to support Barack Obama. This is an absolute and intentional lie.


NRA has long been on record as opposing Barack Obama, as Barack Obama has long been on record as opposing the rights of law-abiding gun owners. For example, Barack Obama:




    • Voted to allow the prosecution of citizens who use a firearm for self-defense in the home (Illinois Senate, S.B. 2165. 3/25/04);

    • Voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to put America’s firearms industry out of business (S.397, vote 219, 7/29/05);

    • Voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting (United States Senate, S. 397, vote 217, 7/29/05);

    • Supported a 500% increase in federal taxes on guns and ammunition (Chicago Defender, 12/13/99);

    • Voted to ban hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting, including single-shot, over-under and side-by-side shotguns (Illinois Senate SB 1195, 3/13/03); and,

    • Proposed restrictions that would close 90% or more of all gun stores in the U.S. (Chicago Defender, 12/13/99).

For more information on the TRUTH about Barack Obama’s hostility toward the Second Amendment, please visit http://www.gunbanobama.com/.


If you receive a call to this effect, please know that it is a deliberate attempt by Barack Obama supporters to mislead gun owners. Our opponents know that you can make the difference in this election, and they’ll stop at nothing to try and deceive you!


Thank you for your support, and remember to “Vote Freedom First”! on November 4th.
Sincerely,
Chris W. Cox
Executive Director, NRA-ILA

Clearly stated

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It’s amazing to me. I’ve been reading more of the comments on mainstream news articles about Obama and guns. People say things like “Obama has clearly stated he supports the Second Amendment”.


Well, yes, he has said that. But he also says on his website:



  • Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn’t have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

    • He clearly states he supports a gun ban. That is his way of supporting the Second Amendment?


    One commenter wrote:



    Also, Obama doesn’t want to take your gun away. He has stated that he does not see why citizens need semi and fully automatic weapons. That’s it.


    My response was:



    “That’s it.”?? That would eliminate about half the the firearms currently being sold and nearly all of my guns. Let’s translate that into 13th Amendment infringement language instead of Second Amendment infringement language: “Our candidate just wants to enslave Jews, Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Muslims, Catholics, and homosexuals. That’s it.”


    It just doesn’t get any more clearly stated than that yet they can’t seem to get why we are upset with Obama’s position on guns.


    Here is a video with Chris Cox of the NRA on Fox News and Fox only quotes the part of Obama’s website where he says he supports the Second Amendment. Not the part I quoted above where he says he wants to ban guns.


    What media bias?


    Update: And via Sebastian I find we now have audio of him saying he supports a Federal ban on concealed carry laws. That is how he “supports” the Second Amendment.

    What they think of us

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    There is a huge gap between the world viewpoints of the reality that I live in and that of some other people:



    While most nations recognize that absolutely no good can come of exposing children to guns at a young age, we live in a gun culture that promotes romantic notions of generations of families hunting and shooting together.


    …


    Sadly, it took us no longer than 5 minutes to find a broad range of videos, showing what could be considered in some cases to be blatant child endangerment.


    There is no telling how many more of these videos exist on the Internet or how many other children have participated in or been exposed to these kinds of events– but no doubt it’s expansive if you have the time to do the research.


    There is no mistaking it, as these images show, this is an outrageous problem unique to American culture that is perhaps more common than many of us even realize.


    No so called “enlightened” country could possible delude themselves into thinking this is normal behavior that should be protected even under the loosest interpretation of the Second Amendment.

    The gun pushers in the gun lobby have gone too far as have the sponsors and supporters of these events. This kind of activity needs to be exposed and outlawed immediately. Children’s lives are at risk and as adults, we need to demand that our lawmakers do more to protect them from dangerous activities like these.


    Think about it. While you are taking your kids to swimming or soccer, these kids–encouraged by their parents and other trusted adults–are blasting away at their target.


    This issue of children firing machine guns, encouraged and emboldened by parents, demonstrates to us the need to change our perspective and the way we think about gun culture in the United States.


    We are in a culture war. Their objective is to extinguish the last great hope for freedom on this planet. Our objective can be no less than to completely and totally defeat them.

    One of my better rants

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    Via Sebastian, who is called a wacko, I found the USA Today article about Cooper getting fired. It says “he [Obama] has said he respects the Second Amendment.”. Numerous commenters say similar things. I left a couple comments:

    Obama says he supports the Second Amendment. He also says he wants to ban guns.

    He can’t have it both ways. His record of the past is clear. His words of the future are clear and consistent with his record. The only reasonable conclusion is that he is attempting to deceive voters here and now by saying “he supports the Second Amendment”.

    And:

    If this were about someone donating money to the KKK, the company then found it was facing a boycott, and the company fired the idiot that donated money to the KKK then almost everyone would agree it was the right thing to do.
    Well guess what–gun ownership is a specific, enumerated right, in the Bill of Rights (read the D.C. v. Heller decision).
    Who would vote for someone that said, “I support the 13th Amendment but I also believe we can have reasonable regulation of blacks to keep them in their proper place.”?
    Senators Obama and Biden and the people that vote for them are to the gun owners what the KKK was to blacks.

    Maybe I’m competing for a more extreme title than the “wacko” title given to Sebastian but these guys really got me annoyed.

    Update: It’s time to put them on the defensive. I left another comment:

    Melo_D wrote: Are you comparing Obama to the KKK?

    The nonviolent aspects of the KKK–yes. He has publicly stated on his website he wants regulated and ban guns. This is infringing on a specific enumerated right just as if someone wanted to regulated and ban blacks (or other oppressed minority) from certain aspects of society.

    Melo_D wrote: Less guns= less violence.

    I have Just One Question (https://blog.joehuffman.org/2004/12/14/just-one-question/) for you:

    Can you demonstrate one time or place, throughout all history, where the average person was made safer by restricting access to handheld weapons?

    Homework assignment

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    Via Ry. Post Zumbo, post Cooper. How many more are there out there than need to get their asses kicked for supporting Obama in this election? Gentlemen, we can out them. We have the technology. We have the capability to spend our dollars only with those gun companies that support our specific, enumerated, individual right to keep and bear arms.


    So, lets do it.

    The rest of the story

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    As pointed out in comments (Lyle in the second comment) it would be very interesting to know “What in the world were you thinking?”


    Caleb is putting some effort in to answering the question.

    Putting the ugliness behind us

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    In regards to Cooper Firearms incident it appears the board of directors has taken swift and decisive action. David has the story.


    It’s the power of the Internet at work. It’s a new world out there.