Category Archives: Gun Rights

Quote of the day—saintonge235

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Twice in my life I got beaten up because I was in a fight and really didn’t want to hurt the person I was fighting. Recovering from the second beating, it occurred to me that “they don’t matter”, “they” being anyone who attacked me. From then on, I never lost a fight, because when I saw that violence was going to occur, I hit first without warning and didn’t stop till they were helpless. Acquiring that mindset is the most important self-defense lesson I know.

saintonge235
June 14, 2014
Comment to The Naive Idiocy of Teaching Rapists Not To Rape
[One might be wise to apply that mindset to a great many other things as well. Politics and war come to mind.—Joe]

Abramski

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Well, the Supreme Court handed down the Abramski decision. He lost.

On the one hand, it’s not unexpected, and for most of us nothing really changes: straw-man purchases are illegal. But on the other hand, the dissent basically argued that isn’t what the statute passed by congress and signed by the prez actually SAID, and thus that isn’t illegal according to the letter of the law, and trying to interpret legislative intent is a bad way to go about making decisions. The decision could have been worse, but I still wish that it had gone the other way, even if that means congress would likely pass a law in record time to “correct” the situation.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/abramski-v-united-states/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/12-1493

 

Quote of the day—Justaperson

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My pipe dream is a nation without guns. Its the same pipe dream the abolitionists had in 1800, when slaves were owned by millions of Americans, just as guns are today. Through peaceful, but determined campaigns, those brave men and women drove slavery out of America. Here’s how we do it:

If our neighbor owns a gun, we first try to talk to them, explaining the statistical probability of being killed or killing with that same gun. If he refuses to give up his genetalia compensator, call the police.

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Spare no neighbor, gun store, NRA member, or even friend, if that’s the case, the honor of being reported to the authorities.

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By calling, you make clear your belief that gun ownership is a crime, a bane on society which must be dealt with the same as robbery or drunk driving. The average American citizen doesn’t think that gun ownership is wrong, but we do, and we are right, and will fight until society knows that gun ownership is a crime, in the same way it figured out that slavery was a crime.

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We need to remain strong and persistent in the face of rising gun violence and an increasing number of gun nuts, and not be afraid of those who would rather let six innocent college students get shot than give up their dick extenders.

Justaperson
June 3, 2014
Civil Disobedience to Counter Open Carry Texas
[Via email from Barron.

Wow! Powerful stuff here. Two invocations of Markley’s Law and extremely clear message that they want to take your guns.

I find it odd these people want to identify with the abolition and other civil rights movements while attempting to extinguish a civil right. They have really messed up mental processes.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Mayor Barbara Fass

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I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about, is that it will happen one very small step at a time, so that by the time people have “woken up”—quote—to what’s happened, it’s gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the beginning of the banning of semi-assault military weapons, that are military weapons, not “household” weapons, is the first step.

Mayor Barbara Fass
Stockton, California
April 11, 1991
ABC News Special, Peter Jennings Reporting: Guns, April 11, 1991
See also The Mechanisms of the Slippery Slope
[Don’t ever let someone get away with saying no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—President Barack Obama

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Our levels of gun violence are off the charts.

President Barack Obama
June 12, 2014
Recent Deadly Shootings Reigniting Gun Control Debate
[Would that be the following charts from the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics?

Figure1

Figure2

They have to lie to even hope of winning.

The president also called himself a Second Amendment supporter.—Joe]

Volunteers and donations needed in Washington state

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We have a gun rights initiative battle going on in Washington state this year. Read about it here. We can use volunteers and money. Sign up as a volunteer here. Donate here.

Quote of the day—John R. Lott Jr.

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Bloomberg’s studies show one thing: a consistent willingness to do whatever is necessary, even make up data, to get the desired results. Disappointingly, the news media keeps giving Bloomberg funded research massive uncritical coverage.

John R. Lott Jr.
June 9, 2014
Six Falsehoods Pushed By Bloomberg’s Gun Control Apparatchiks
[Do not ever be surprised, shocked, or get upset when anti-gun people lie. Expect and exploit it. It’s a fundamental part of their culture.—Joe]

Honesty in advertising

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It’s satire of course, but one could say it’s honesty in advertising on Seattle Craig’s list. A sample:

Rave for Washington Ceasefire, Gun Control‏ and Gun Free Zones!!!

The story listed below could have been me or a fellow co-worker of mine.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/georgia-mother-shoots-home-intruder-911-tapes-18168262

I spent 5 years in prison for Rape, Child Molestation, and Possession of Stolen Property.

Since I’ve been out of prison, I’ve been making a living selling meth and stealing/selling stolen items here on Craigslist.
It seems that no one wants to hire a convicted felon these days. So I do what I do to make ends meat. At least I’m not a mooch on society and live off of unemployment/welfare.

Yes, I rape women and children but only when I smoke to much meth or if I have an itch to get my “willy” wet.

The last thing I want is some gun-nut shoving a gun in my face and blowing me. What gives these gun-nuts the right to do this?

What about my right to live? My rights to do as I please?…I’m an American too, I have rights as well!!

We need stronger gun control…..SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE…I’m begging you, PLEASE join Washington Ceasefire today…

A saved version is here for when the original is taken down.

Quote of the day—Deborah Prothrow-Stith

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My view of guns is simple. I hate guns and I cannot imagine why anyone would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.

Deborah Prothrow-Stith
Dean of Harvard School of Public Health
[I found this on numerous sites but I was unable to find a date or context for it. Reading biographical information on her indicate it would be in character though. If someone happens across relevant information on this quote please let me know.—Joe]

Armed admins

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Interesting news blurb today. Toppenish is a city/school district in central Washington state, about 20 miles south of Yakima. It’s a poor, gang- and crime-ridden part of the state, with lots of native Americans and Spanish speakers. It’s the sort of place that if I stop in to gas up, I’m likely the only white guy in the joint. They have decided to allow 11 administrators to exercise their 2nd Amendment (and article 24 of the WA St constitution) rights to carry arms at school. Be nice if they allowed teachers to be armed, but hey, baby steps, one at a time.

Be interesting to see how it all goes.

Quote of the day—Kathy White

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YEP>>>RT”@linoge_wotc: Markley’s Law. @JoeHuffman RT @ToConservatives I spoke the truth. #GunFetishClowns #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/swc978c4HR“

ExplainsAssaultRifles

Kathy White @katbeewhite
Tweeted May 31, 2014
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday via Linoge.

And Ms. White didn’t even bother to look up Markley’s Law even though it was mentioned in the quote she retweeted. One has to conclude she has crap for brains as well as a fixation on the size of men’s genitals.—Joe]

If guns cause people to shoot other people…

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Then why are shooting rates among people under the same laws are so disparate?

Look at the Chicago rates discussed in a recently released paper.

To begin with, the dramatic disparities the rates of nonfatal gunshot injury:
overall it’s 46.5 per 100,000 for the city as a whole from 2006-2012.
It’s 1.62 per 100,000 for whites; 28.72 for Hispanics, and 112.83 for blacks.

For all males, it’s 44.68 per 100,000; 239.77 for black males, and for black males from 18-34 it’s 599.65.

All these people are living under the same gun laws, economic system, and mayor. Yet, the rates at which guns are used illegally vary hugely. I’m thinking maybe, just maybe, it’s something other than guns.

The irony of Keri L (@ikeriover)

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After retweeting this post of mine Keri L (@ikeriover) tweeted this:

 

My post pointed out she was either incapable of comprehensive reading or that she was imagining I wrote something completely different from what I actually did. And she calls me crazy?

Another thread of interest is this:

you can get prosecuted for leaving your children in the car alone, but not if you leave a loaded gun for them to find? #NotOneMore

— Keri L (@ikeriover) June 7, 2014

@ikeriover Not true in most states. Reckless endangerment laws exist and are used.

— Joe Huffman (@JoeHuffman) June 7, 2014

@JoeHuffman actually this is a true story.http://t.co/EE1tzMnJDX

— Keri L (@ikeriover) June 7, 2014

@JoeHuffman you are a bully & not so surprising with your crazy pro-gun stance. I am sure you ‘quote me” &yourcrazy followers will join in.

— Keri L (@ikeriover) June 7, 2014

@ikeriover I was referring to the part about not being prosecutable for leaving a loaded gun accessible to kids.

— Joe Huffman (@JoeHuffman) June 7, 2014

As part of this same thread she also said, “You are a monster.” But that tweet has been deleted.

These people have mental problems. There is no other explanation.

Update for clarification: In the comments there is some confusion about who said what which led to the confrontation between Keri L. and I. Here is more of the thread:

KeriLTwitterThread

The greatest risk to you and your family

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A government that disarms you:

Via email from JoeyD Sr.

Quote of the day—AWR Hawkins

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Senators Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), together with Representative Lois Capps (D-CA-Santa Barbara), are pushing legislation to allow families to petition a court to bar a “dangerous” individual from buying a gun and confiscate any guns said individual owns.

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The legislation comes in response to Elliot Rodger’s May 23 attacks in which he stabbed three people to death, shot and killed three others, then tried to kill four more by running them down with his car.

Neither Senator nor Capps addressed the confiscation of knives or automobiles.

AWR Hawkins
June 6, 2014
Boxer, Feinstein, Capps Introduce Firearm Confiscation Legislation
[From Mitchel M. on the the gun email list at work.—Joe]

Deterrence

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You would think they would know better:

A level 3 sex offender was arrested after he kidnapped a little girl from a Beacon Hill Park.  On 6/5/14, just shortly before 7:00 p.m., the complainant called and stated that a male tried to “touch his little girl”. The complainant went on to say that the suspect was surrounded by people in the 9300 block of Carkeek Dr S.    Officers quickly arrived and found 3 people beating one male, who was down on the ground.

I sort of understood the protective instincts of parents for their offspring before I had kids. You know you should never get between a mother bear and her cubs so probably there is something similar with people.

But after they were born, it’s like, “OMG! If you try to harm one of my kids you have a death wish! You would rather have a momma bear chasing you than me because she isn’t as smart in the chase, she isn’t as persistent in the hunt, and she isn’t as creative when she catches you.”

If child kidnapping had a high risk of a nearly immediate beating and/or being shot it probably would reduce the incidence more than the threat of an arrest, prison sentence and/or GPS tracking device.

Quote of the day—Sarah A. Hoyt

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Here’s something for the leftists who really want to do what they can to prevent the next one of these events from happening. How about you all stop with your self-righteous crap about how the NRA has blood on its hands when your side will all but literally stand on the bodies of dead children to politicize any tragedy just because they know it’s the only damn way they’ll ever get any movement on guns.

Accept it. It’s a lost cause for you. If you couldn’t get a change in gun laws like you wanted after Newtown, you’re not going to get it. It’s just not going to happen.

Sarah A. Hoyt
May 30, 2014
Beyond the violence -Tom Knighton
[Once they stop blaming us for things we didn’t do then maybe we can talk about potential solutions to problems we all want solved.—Joe]

Crazy talk

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I don’t even know what this means:

CsgvNonsense

This is some sort of crazy talk. These people are out of their minds and yet the media listens to them? If anything they should use them as an example of people with mental health issues.

Quote of the day—alyce7

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Gun nuts are domestic terrorists, and I have no patience or sympathy for domestic terrorists who want to trample the rights of the rest of us, just so they can pretend they are Wyatt and Morgan Earp.

alyce7
May 29, 2014
Comment to Memo to gun-control advocates: Even Elliot Rodger believed guns would have deterred him
[And just what do you suppose alyce7 thinks should be done with “domestic terrorists” like me and you?

Keep your guard up. The Second Amendment is about protecting ourselves from people like them.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Italian Rose

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The 10-round limit is a reasonable common sense restriction that should be adopted nationwide. I think, myself, that the 10 round limit is way too liberal. First, you could only hunt in most jurisdictions with 5 rounds in a magazine, so a more reasonable restriction would be a 5-round magazine not a 10. Additionally, since all repeating firearms and handguns are considered terrorist grade weapons, the American Civilian should be regimented to single shot drop breach long guns and break in half single shot shotguns

Italian Rose
May 30, 2014
Comment to The history of magazines holding 11 or more rounds: Amicus brief in 9th Circuit
[We’ve seen the words of this fruitcake before (and here and here). Even though a case could be made for it I can’t believe this is sarcasm. Apparently they have no respect for the Bill of Rights or basic moral principles.

And just what do they think should be done with all the existing guns in private hands that don’t conform to their tyrannical view? Don’t let anyone tell you that no one want to take your guns.—Joe]