Thirty caliber clip

Just because someone knows most of the words doesn’t mean they can use them in a complete sentence that makes sense:

If a politician has no idea what they are talking about they have no business making law regarding that subject.

H/T Boyd K.

Quote of the day—Jeff Snyder

With a gun, a 100 pound woman can successfully defend her life from a vicious assault by a 170-pound man On the other hand, if she is careless or foolhardy, the gun will more readily manifest and magnify the result of that behavior. Being more effective, it is less forgiving of error, impulse, mindlessness. Yet in one case and the other, the gun has not done good, the gun has not done evil. As a tool it enables a man or woman to do greater good or greater evil. Take it away, and you have reduced man’s capacity to do harm, yes, but you have also reduced man’s capacity to do good. That we entertain serious discussions about eliminating guns, speaks not so much to the “evil” nature of the thing itself – it has not moral nature – or to our revulsion over the harm wrought with it, as it does about our beliefs in our own capacity and willingness to do good, to undertake those actions in service of the good that would require or recommend the use of that tool. We see no good in guns because we have drawn a line through performing those good deeds for which a gun would be necessary or advisable and, what is more chilling, doubt our own capacity to do so. For this reason more than any other, there is no salvation through gun control.

Jeff Snyder
2001
Nation of Cowards page 10.
[If I understand what he is saying correctly I think I can extrapolate a bit and make things more clear:

If you believe mankind is so flawed that gun control is necessary to protect us from ourselves then we are so flawed that we will destroy ourselves without guns as well.

Is that the way you read it too?—Joe]

First they came…

First they came for the machine guns. Then they came for the Black Rifles. They they came for the handguns. They they came for the airguns. Wait, wut?

Yes. Scotland has jumped the shark. Owners of unlicensed airguns can face jail time.
Up to two years. The pols there are bloody insane.

On the bright side, compliance rates appear to be low (roughly 8,000 of an estimated half million present, or under 2%) , so there might be a faint glimmer of hope.

h/t to Paul K.

Quote of the day—Alan Gottlieb

Hillary Clinton did not hit a glass ceiling. She hit a ‘lead’ ceiling. America’s gun owners turned out to vote and made the Second Amendment great again.

At the local and state level, candidates that supported gun rights did very much better than those who supported gun control.

Alan Gottlieb
November 11, 2016
Guns Win Big on Election Day Most anti-gun candidate in modern history loses, NRA spending pays off
[While gun owners dodged the Clinton bullet in the election I don’t know how big of a contribution the gun owner rights issue made. Does anyone have hard numbers?

Email from David W. gives us Guns and the 2016 Election: How Candidates and Initiatives Fared in Every Key Race and How the NRA Paved the Way for President Trump but those don’t give us actual numbers. Actual numbers would probably have to come polling and after this election no one is going to be trusting poll numbers for several years. So, I don’t know the answer. Any ideas?—Joe]

Quote of the day—Larry Correia

I know many of you are scared of guns, but just think of them like fire extinguishers, but for murderers.

Larry Correia
November 14, 2016
A Handy Guide For Liberals Who Are Suddenly Interested In Gun Ownership
[In addition to the snark there is a lot of good stuff in there.—Joe]

Our Time Is Now

Regarding the election Wayne LaPierre says gun owners made this election happen and Our Time Is Now:

Quote of the day—Annie Nelson‏ @BioAnnie1

At least rewrite it so that #MicroPenisAmmoSexuals can understand it!

Annie Nelson‏ @BioAnnie1
Tweeted on February 12, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Proud Hunter ‏@Duck_Hunter7.

Nelson was replying to someone who demanded the repeal of the Second Amendment. Apparently they are ignorant of U.S. v Cruikshank which says, “This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.”—Joe]

Quote of the day—Sean O’Reilly

The Collaborative Firearms Education Initiative involves two steps. First, a push to get the CDC funding to actively catalog and study gun related violence much as it does motor vehicle fatalities and a push to increase the educational requirements for firearm purchases with the NRA being the main organization for implementation and provision of this education.

We need reliable, unbiased information and understanding of it. Without a complete understanding of the problem we are left only with speculation and theories.

Secondly, instead of looking to limit accessibility to firearms in efforts against the NRA and other political groups, increasing the level of education necessary to purchase firearms in conjunction with the NRA.

To drive a vehicle on streets, hunt on public land , or carry a concealed weapon, every individual is required to attend formal and regulated training and be licenced.

Sean O’Reilly
October 12, 2016
A third way on gun control allows both sides to win
[Most of the vehement opposition to gun ownership comes in the aftermath of a mass shooting atrocity. Nearly all of those have a strong mental illness component. The major source of gun deaths are due to gangs and the illegal drug trade. While I can see some policy changes making a significant difference there I can’t see how requiring training could help. And training and licensing for hunting and concealed weapons is already the norm for nearly all states.

And if he thinks these restrictions are acceptable for the specific enumerated right of gun ownership I don’t think he envisioned the slippery slope of applying similar restrictions on religion, speech, freedom of association, and abortion.

I suspect O’Reilly doesn’t really understand the current situation and hasn’t thought through what he does know.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Middle Class Warrior ‏@ZeitgeistGhost

So is it an inability to get or keep an erection that makes u compensate by being a gun nut @MarkAWebster1? u too @CommodusLucius

Middle Class Warrior ‏@ZeitgeistGhost
Tweeted on February 13, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Linoge.—Joe]

Guns and crime in England

I frequently want to look up certain things about guns and crime in England that I vaguely remember and I have trouble finding things I thought were fairly well documented.

The other day I found FIREARM CONTROLS IN BRITAIN PART I THE HISTORY OF FIREARMS CONTROLS IN GREAT BRITAIN EARLY LEGISLATION and decided to blog about it to make it easier for me (and perhaps others) to find in the future. I have a link to this post on my “Important posts” page for easy reference in the future.

Here are some important points from the UK Parliament Publications linked to above. The most important parts are bolded.

  • Early English legislation relating to firearms was concerned only with the duty of the citizen to arm himself for the defence of the realm and for the maintenance of order.
  • Until the start of the 20th century, therefore, the right to keep arms was vigorously upheld by Parliament and all attempts at legislation to restrict arms generally or firearms in particular failed completely.
  • The Pistols Act of 1903 was the first piece of legislation to attempt some control on pistols. It required only that a prospective purchaser provide proof that he held a gun licence available on demand at a post office, or that he was a householder, or was to proceed abroad.
  • During the early part of this century anyone, respectable citizen, criminal or lunatic, could walk into a gunshop and buy any firearm he wanted.
  • The 1988 Act had many different effects. The Home Office failed to produce a single case in which self loading rifles had been used in crime other than the Hungerford incident. In that case, the fact that the rifle was self loading was of no significance because the rate at which shots were actually fired was within the capability of any firearm including the most simple single shot weapon.
  • Countries all require a permit of some sort to acquire a handgun, but in general these are much more easily obtained than they were in this country….Single and double barrel shotguns will remain completely uncontrolled and, as now, will be freely sold in gunshops and even supermarkets.

In regards to the Dunblane atrocity:

  • The Government of the day rapidly appointed Lord Cullen to head an inquiry and asked that judgement be delayed until he had reported.
  • The Labour Party in opposition took an entirely different approach and rapidly produced a 15 page submission to Lord Cullen
  • It is clear that those who prepared the submission sought no professional assistance in producing this document and that they did not consult with the shooting community. It seems that they did not regard the matter as sufficiently important to warrant extensive research.
  • The document displays a complete unawareness of the nature and economic value of shooting sports in general or of pistol shooting in particular.
  • The Labour submission also demonstrated an incomplete knowledge of the safeguards already in place in firearms legislation and of the many obstacles placed in the way of a person wishing to hold a firearm certificate. They noted the increase in reported crime involving firearms, though their analysis of the trend was flawed and failed to even attempt to correlate the reduction in legally held firearms and changes in rates of armed crime.
  • then the Labour submission turned to the extremely complex question of international comparisons, the researchers failed to realise that published statistics are not comparable and quoted conclusions from carefully selected works that have not stood up to even modest examination of their reliability.
  • On the basis of this flimsy and entirely unreliable evidence, the Labour Party suggested a whole raft of reforms of firearms legislation, including many which have civil liberties implications. They proposed, for example, that chief constables should have absolute discretion to refuse any application and should not be required to give reasons for doing so (Para 32). They conceded that a Star Chamber system might further consider the chief constable’s decision in some cases, though the applicant would not be told why the decision had been taken.
  • This mass of law was based on intrinsically flawed panic legislation of 1920. It has been added to by one panic measure after another. It has never been the subject of rational consideration. The principles which should apply to all legislation are lost. No-one has ever stated a precise objective for the legislation or indicated how it will be measured against that objective to see whether or not it is working.

Guns, crime, and the misuse of statistics:

  • There can be no system of measuring the number of illegally held firearms and estimates made vary considerably. Some commentators have suggested a figure of four million illegal firearms in circulation in Britain. Bearing in mind tht almost one million illegally held firearms have been surrendered to, or confiscated by, the police since the end of World War II and that the number of firearms available for use in crime does not seem to have diminished, it seems reasonable to suggest that the number of illegal firearms cannot fall far short of the total number legally held.
  • A time series study relating to Great Britain is a relatively simple process, but simplistic conclusions should not be drawn from it. However, if the thesis that more guns means more violent crime is correct, it must follow that fewer guns should mean fewer violent crimes. Home Office criminal statistics for England and Wales have given figures for the use of firearms in crime only for relatively modern times, prior to which the only information available was that from major cities, notably London, or from anecdotal and unreliable evidence. All the evidence that can be found from these sources shows that when there were no controls on firearms the rate of armed crime was very low and it remained so until the mid 1960s when it began to escalate. But the rate of legal firearms ownership was declining and has continued to decline whilst the rate of armed crime has grown.
  • Though there has been a gradual increase in the use of firearms in homicide it has remained a fairly constant proportion of all homicides.
  • The rise in the use of pistols in homicide since 1992 reflects a most important change in the nature of homicide and may well be associated in the rise of drug and criminal gang related shootings which are being reported in the media and by the police. A discernible change in the pattern of homicides involving firearms is taking place which may reflect a total failure to effectively police a segment of the community and which will have far reaching implications if not tackled effectively. Tackling this phenomenon through the medium of stricter controls of pistols is clearly not an option. They were extremely strictly controlled throughout the period and are now effectively banned.
  • Figures for crimes labelled as homicide in various countries are simply not comparable. Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction, or where the person is not prosecuted on grounds of self defence or otherwise. This reduces the apparent number of homicides by between 13 per cent and 15 per cent. The adjustment is made only in respect of figures shown in one part of the Annual Criminal Statistics. In another part relating to the use of firearms, no adjustment is made. A table of the number of homicides in which firearms were used in England and Wales will therefore differ according to which section of the annual statistics was used as its base. Similarly in statistics relating to the use of firearms, a homicide will be recorded where the firearm was used as a blunt instrument, but in the specific homicide statistics, that case will be shown under “blunt instrument”. [Emphasis added.]
  • Acting within the remit of Economic and Social Council of the United Nations, the Commission on Crime Prevention and Criminal Justice recommended that a study be undertaken in member states into the regulation of firearms together with other topics assumed to be related to such regulation.
  • The authors of the UN Report draw a series of conclusions which are not justified by their own evidence. The only conclusion which can safely be drawn in that there is no casual relationship between the number of firearms in a State and the levels of death through homicide, suicide or accident.
  • The data produced in the survey provide no evidence of any correlation between firearms ownership and firearms accident levels.
  • The UN survey makes no pretence of controlling for any of the many variables known to influence suicide rates, but even these crude figures show that there is no correlation between firearms ownership and either overall suicide rates or firearms suicide rates.
  • The debate seems to assume that the United States is a homogenous unit, but that does not seem to be the case. Homicide rates vary from the extraordinarily high level of about 80 per hundred thousand in Washington DC which has a total ban on the ownership of most firearms, to rates less than those in the UK and Europe in States like Vermont which does not allow any restrictions on firearms ownership.
  • In the Study, Crime and Justice in the United States and in England and Wales, 1981-96 by Professor David Farrington of Cambridge University and Dr Patrick Langan of the US Department of Justice, compared rates of reported assaults, robbery and burglary in the two countries were compared to discover that in all cases, England and Wales has overtaken the United States. The report was based on both crime victim surveys and police statistics and so is as reliable as any such report can be. The situation was reached in 1996 where the robbery rate in England and Wales is 40 per cent higher than it is in the United States whilst assault, burglary and “auto-crime” in England and Wales are almost double those in the United States.
  • Of even more significance is that the fact that the “hot” burglary rate (burglary committed whilst someone is in the house) involved 13 per cent of burglaries in the United States and about 50 per cent in England and Wales (Wright and Rossi 1986).
  • Many of the international studies on the relationship between levels of firearms ownership and crime rates have value only if studied with great care taking proper account of the many variables. A time series study in this country shows that no such relationship exists here and a study of the more reliable cross sectional analyses fails to disclose sufficient evidence of any such relationship and tends to disprove it.
  • Attempts have been made throughout this century to reduce levels of crime generally and levels of violent crime in particular by imposing strict controls on access to firearms. These have been applied in most parts the world and over a long period. There has yet to be a single follow-up study which shows that the imposition of controls on firearms, or the tightening of existing controls, has caused any reduction in the use of firearms in crime over time in any particular country or more generally. [Emphasis added.]

The first bolded point is of great importance and I repeat for even more emphasis:

Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction.

This last bolded point is, in essence, a restatement of Just one question.

Don’t ever let anyone get away with bringing up England as justification for gun control. They are ignorant, misinformed, or lying.

Quote of the day—NRA ILA

UK law enforcement’s warning on terrorist gun attacks is a stark illustration of the fundamental flaw of gun control. Rather than scheming of new firearms restrictions that violent offenders will simply ignore, policy makers should be looking for ways to empower the law-abiding to better provide for their own defense.

NRA ILA
November 5, 2016
Despite Severe Gun Controls, UK Warns Of Terrorist Gun Attacks
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

We lost a giant

Don Kates, the father of the modern Second Amendment revival, has died.

I have posted things by and about Kates many times:

We lost a giant in the gun rights world.

Quote of the day—garrett dodd ‏@johnyblaze00

im not anywhere #ammosexual, you’re the white knight who came in to defend his dildo/gun

garrett dodd ‏@johnyblaze00
Tweeted February 16, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Linoge.—Joe]

Interesting times

Think about this for a minute. After the chill up your spine subsides make appropriate contingence plans:

The wireless provider released a statement saying that a malware attack via Twitter on Tuesday night “generated some unplanned 911 calls but 911 services and calls were not affected.”

“We are obligated by FCC regulations, as is every other wireless carrier, to notify authorities in your city if 911 services might at all be impacted, which is what we did when this problem was first detected. But this actually affected 911 nationwide and on any Apple device running iOS 10 or earlier (regardless of wireless carrier).

The malware has been disabled, but we’re advising our customers who clicked on the link to reboot their phone and update their software to 10.1. We’re also working with Apple to determine if any additional steps are needed.”

Apparently some number of malware infected iPhones repeated called 911, nationwide, in a denial of service attack on our emergency services.

Why would someone want to reduce or eliminate your ability to contact emergency services?

  1. They get a kick out of breaking things.
  2. They want to increase their odds of success in some sort of criminal/terrorist attack.

I can’t think of another reason.

Who needs a fire extinguisher or a gun? Just call 911 and you’ll be fine, right?

Quote of the day—Sebastian

Nothing is ever as easy as zealots want to convince you it is. If someone tells you there’s a simple solution to something, they are either ignorant, or know better and are hoping you’re ignorant enough to buy it. Gun ownership is no magic bullet against bad things happening, and gun control isn’t either. That’s why I’m not about grand solutions, and tend to believe people should be left free to fix their own problems and make their own choices. I oppose gun control because the movement is philosophically centered around denying individuals the right to make their own decisions about their own lives, security, and happiness.

Sebastian
October 26, 2016
Toddlers & Guns Continues
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—William Stone‏ @WTStone1075

Or, #2A clowns are pussies who need a gun to feel safe. Because, they lack testicular fortitude…

William Stone‏ @WTStone1075
Tweeted on February 16, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Linoge.—Joe]

Quote of the day—PersonOnDuty

When democrats read the 2nd Amendment, the words “hunting” and “musket” magically appear, and “the people” gets replaced with “the militia”…

PersonOnDuty
October 21, 2016
Comment to Giffords pushes for gun control in northern Va., DC
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Interesting

I was looking at the Revised Code of Washington firearm definitions and found some interesting things:

(9) “Firearm” means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.

Does this mean that if you, as a non-FFL, sell or give someone something, say the lower receiver of a modern sporting rifle or a handgun without a barrel, that is incapable of firing a projectile they don’t have to go through the NICS check and fill out a 4473 as required by I-594?

(15) “Machine gun” means any firearm known as a machine gun, mechanical rifle, submachine gun, or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir clip, disc, drum, belt, or other separable mechanical device for storing, carrying, or supplying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism, or instrument, and fired therefrom at the rate of five or more shots per second.

Emphasis added.

I find two things of interest here.

  1. Some people can pull the trigger on a revolver faster than this.
  2. If someone were to limit the rate of fire on a belt fed gun to no more than 4.9 shots per second it would appear (I am not a lawyer!) to be legal under Washington State law.

Quote of the day—Robert J. Avrech

Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman, the towering medieval scholar, writes with refreshing clarity:

“The sword is not the cause of murder, and there is no sin upon him who made it.”

In other words, a weapon, be it a sword or a gun, is neutral. It can be used for good or evil. Thus to label a gun as “bad” makes no sense, for a gun can be used in self-defense which the Torah sees as an obligation.

Robert J. Avrech
September 19, 2016
Jews and Guns
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—YouWildman‏ @youwildman

@JJVP10 @micahsgrrl @DavidRGreen_ @Mimi_ftw @wallsofthecity THE NEED TO IMPREGNATE SOMEONE W/ THAT TINY DICK YOU MEAN? YOU WON’T-NO WORRIES!

YouWildman‏ @youwildman
Tweeted on February 8, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Linoge.

Bonus follow up:

@youwildman @JJVP10 @micahsgrrl @DavidRGreen_ @Mimi_ftw @wallsofthecity And 15 MILLION women are compensating for ?

15MillionWomen

Dan Roberts ‏@DRoberts556
Tweeted on February 8, 2016

@DRoberts556 @JJVP10 @micahsgrrl @DavidRGreen_ @Mimi_ftw @wallsofthecity same thing; tiny white penises

YouWildman ‏@youwildman
Tweeted on February 8, 2016

I find it very telling that we have tens of millions of people exercising their specific, enumerated, right to keep and bear arms, supported by SCOTUS decisions, and our opponents are fixated on their delusions regarding genitalia.—Joe]