Quote of the day—Averett Jones

Now, society has the right and obligation to insist that each of us does not interfere with the rights of others. But rights are different from preferences. You have the right not to be injured personally or financially by anyone. BUT you do not have the right not to have your feelings hurt since you and you alone can determine what hurts your feelings.

You do not have the right to live in a risk free society where everyone else adjusts their rights to suit you.

You do not have the right to live in a society where everyone agrees with you and nothing you see or hear offends your tender sensibilities.

Your rights end where mine began.

Averett Jones
September 24, 2015
Gun Control vs. People Control
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—dittybopper

I find the idea that we should extend the same protections we give to game species to prevent them from becoming extinct to criminals and tyrants oddly curious.

dittybopper
September 23, 2015
Comment to Quote of the day—Shannyn Moore
[This was in reference to Moore denigrating the use of standard capacity magazines for use in hunting.

I understand that dittybopper was being witty but that aside I don’t find it odd or curious in the slightest.

Criminals are the constituents and allies of tyrants and those who aspire to be tyrants. It naturally follows that those who desire the rule of a tyrant will, of logical necessity, desire the same or greater protections for the preservation of criminal and tyrant species as is normal for the conservation of game species.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Brief of NRA

Just as it is no answer to ban protected firearms because they might sometimes be misused by criminals, Highland Park cannot ban them because they are too good at what they are supposed to do. Broken down to its most basic function, a firearm is a tool that is designed to leverage force. And millions of Americans prefer the prohibited firearms because they more effectively leverage force due to their increased accuracy, reliability, versatility, and safety. Pet. Writ Cert. at 9-11, 19-20, 29; infra pp. 17-27. The fact that the prohibited firearms perform better cannot be a justification for their confiscation.

BRIEF OF NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, INC. AS AMICUS CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONERS FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI
August 28, 2015
[I have nothing to add.—Joe

Quote of the day—Glenn Reynolds

Police don’t actually protect law-abiding citizens from criminals so much as they protect criminals from the much-rougher justice they’d get in the absence of a legal system.

Burglars would be hung from lampposts, and shoplifters would be beaten and tossed into the gutter if there were no police, as in fact happens in countries where there isn’t a reliable justice system and a civil-society culture that restrains vigilantism. Reminder to the criminal class: Ultimately, we’re not stuck in this country with you. You’re stuck in this country with us.

Glenn Reynolds
September 2, 2015
SEE, I LOVE RAMIREZ, BUT I THINK THIS CARTOON GETS IT EXACTLY BACKWARD
[Upon the recommendation of Ry I’m listening to the Audible.com version of A History of the English-Speaking Peoples, Vol. 1: The Birth of Britain and was reminded of what professor Reynolds said earlier this month (above). The native people of Britain were conquered by the Romans more than once. After the first time they waited for several years and then attacked the Roman bureaucrats, the military, and the natives who had collaborated with the Romans. In some cities, with populations of tens of thousands, they killed every man, woman, and child.

There may be lessons here for those who are in the process of conquering our country today. Just because you think you are bringing civilization to the savages doesn’t mean the “savages” appreciated it or have been “domesticated” once you have achieved your immediate goals. And ultimately you may find you’re stuck in this country with us.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Shannyn Moore

If you need a 30-round clip you’re a pretty poor hunter. If you are hoarding automatic (yes, they are legal) or semi-automatic weapons, you need Viagra.

Shannyn Moore
December 27, 2012
My Guns Are Less Regulated Than My Uterus
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via an email from Weerd Beard.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Barb L.

It’s not an empty nest. It’s a dirty nest.

Barb L.
September 19, 2015
[This was after taking her last child living at home to college. The next morning she was up before 4:00 AM cleaning house.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Johnathan Cohn and Nick Wing

Still more persuasive evidence on the effect of gun control comes from Australia, which — following a highly publicized mass killing in the 1990s — banned many types of weapons, introduced a more restrictive permit system, and then launched a buy-back program in which states paid gun owners for turning in weapons that the new laws made illegal. Homicide and suicide rates dropped substantially. And while the murder rates was also dropping before the laws took effect, researchers found that the decline was sharpest for the weapons declared illegal and in those states reporting the highest buyback rates.

AustralianGunPile

Johnathan Cohn and Nick Wing
August 27, 2015
Gun Control Might Not Have Stopped The WDBJ Shooter. That’s Not The Point.
[No consideration whatsoever of the constitutionality of what they lust for. No consideration for the deception they promulgate. No consideration for the parallels to burning books they so vividly display. And no consideration that their facts are wrong.

Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

I wonder what this will mean for concealed carry?

From CNN:

A cloak of invisibility may be common in science fiction but it is not so easy in the real world. New research suggests such a device may be moving closer to reality.

Scientists said on Thursday (September 17) they have successfully tested an ultra-thin invisibility cloak made of microscopic rectangular gold blocks that, like skin, conform to the shape of an object and can render it undetectable with visible light.

The researchers said while their experiments involved cloaking a miniscule object they believe the technology could be made to conceal larger objects, with military and other possible applications.

The cloak, 80 nanometers in thickness, was wrapped around a three-dimensional object shaped with bumps and dents. The cloak’s surface rerouted light waves scattered from the object to make it invisible to optical detection.

What if you had a holster that was made with a cloak of invisibility? You could have the comfort and access of open carry with the discreetness of concealed carry.

Where are the demands for knife control?

She wasn’t playing with a full deck and had thousands of bladed weapons:

A Florida woman was arrested Tuesday night after she tried to stab a deputy with a large sword or machete inside a mobile home filled with thousands of other bladed weapons, authorities said.

You really should watch the video provided at the link above. Her collection and nuttiness was impressive:

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Of course there won’t be any demands for knife control. That would demonstrate the crazy of the anti-freedom people as much as the nuttiness of the knife collector.

Quote of the day—Bill S.

I have no idea what the solution is to gun violence, but America continues to lead the industrial West when it comes to shooting it out. I think one step in the right direction would be an extension of the castle doctrine to allow shooting anyone open carrying an assault rifle.

If you see a couple of people carrying assault rifles openly, you could argue convincingly that they needed killing.

Bill S.
2015
From an email sent to Alan Korwin.
[Just so you know what some people think of you if you carry one of the most popular rifles in the U.S. That is, you need to be killed.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Smarter than Your Average Bear

Time for that asshole to eat a Pb sandwich then see how he feels.

Smarter than Your Average Bear
August 31, 2015
Comment to NRA spokesman tells parents of slain Virginia journalists not to be ‘so emotional’
[He is referring to Colin Noir in this video:

This is also relevant and contains more of Colin’s video:

The bottom line is that people think you should be killed for expressing a perfectly reasonable appeal to reason and facts and to not let your emotions rule your actions.

Don’t let people like this gain political power.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Peter Dean

…any law enforcement or x-miltary will tell you, that there exists as likely of a chance of someone innocent getting shot unintentionally……I think they should give all you idiots a gun so you an mistakenly shoot each other when these things happen…………

Peter Dean
September 14, 2015
Comment to Professor killed at Mississippi university, fellow instructor sought
[Before his comment was deleted his first sentence was corrected by law enforcement and x-military people. But what I really wanted to point out is that he wants gun owners dead.

Keep that mind for future reference. Your life may depend upon these type of people being prevented from obtaining political power.—Joe]

Canola, rapeseed, and synthetic oils

There has been a fair amount of discussion in the past few days about a “gun oil” that is suspected of being nothing more than repackaged Canola oil:

In response to a Facebook post on this topic I wrote the following comment:

We sometimes grow rapeseed and canola on the farm.

Rapeseed oil is the main component in all the “synthetic” motor oils. It can tolerate higher temperatures than the pumped from the ground. Rapeseed oil is believed to be toxic (not dramatically so, but you shouldn’t cook with it on a regular basis).

The Canola plant and seed look identical to rapeseed but the oil is much lower in erucic acid than the oil from rapeseed. The erucic acid is desired in the lubricating oils.

Canola oil is not going to be as good a high temperature lubricant as rapeseed oil. If you want to use something cheaper than the hyped up gun oils but better than common lubricants then use a Mobil One or some other synthetic motor oil.

There are some severe factual errors in that comment. It was probably 45 years ago Dad had told me Mobile 1 was made of rapeseed oil. Yesterday I discovered that was wrong. I went searching for a web page to show it was true and could not find evidence to support that claim.

I sent an email to my brother Doug asking him what the story was. He wrote back saying he had discovered the error many years ago himself. Dad was not one to exaggerate or make things up and Doug elaborated on how he might have come to this erroneous conclusion.

He elaborated quite a bit but it boiled down to the following (slightly edited to remove names):

I don’t think Dad fabricated the entire rapeseed story.  When I first started farming, I sat in several farm meetings where rapeseed and its many industrial uses was discussed.  I think much of it came from a certain plant breeder.  Dad really liked him and I did too.  He seemed like a great guy, but I have heard he was a bit of a visionary/exaggerator.  He left in the late 80s and was replaced.  The new breeder also seems like a great guy, but I have seen the results for enough years to know that most of his dreams don’t come true.  His great plans for various new crops have all fizzled over the years and he really has very little to show for his 25 years of plant breeding.

In answer to your question, I suspect much of the hype about rapeseed came from these two plant breeders and much of it was based on wishful thinking rather than reality.  I don’t have any other good explanation.

I did further research and found that while rapeseed oil has been used for lubricating oil for a long, long time it doesn’t have the extraordinary high smoke point that I had been lead to believe. When refined it is higher than many cooking oils but it’s not anything worthy of exception note.

The synthetic oils, like Mobile 1, do tolerate very high temperatures but it isn’t because they have any particular vegetable oil in them. It is because they have very particular, custom built, molecules in them that are temperature tolerant. Conventional oils, and vegetable oils, have a wide variety of molecules in them. Some of the molecules break down at lower temperatures than others. As soon as any component of the oil starts breaking down it changes everything. The viscosity can change, the lubricity can change, and the oil will cease to do its job.

I suspect that high temperature tolerance is important in firearms but I don’t know for certain. It’s not as if the oil is for the chamber and barrel of the gun. It’s for the metal on metal parts of the gun which doesn’t reach chamber and barrel temperatures.

Quote of the day—Bob Owens

@shannonrwatts You simpering halfwit. Would you make murder more illegal? Criminals with ill intent walk past your silly signs.

Bob Owens
Tweeted on September 14, 2015
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Bullets and steel

Ry and I were at the Boomershoot site in Idaho this weekend when Sebastian sent me an email asking about steel penetration by bullets. I was pretty sure I gave him off the cuff correct answers but I was in a good position to do some of the tests. The next morning Ry and I found a piece of 0.5” mild rod and I shot it a few times.

The question was, “Could a pistol bullet severely damage the mild steel rod? Or is severe damage proof that AP rifle rounds were used?” I said, “I don’t think 1000 FPS pistol bullets will do that.” But I also said that a rifle, even relatively low powered lead core rounds, would go right through. Ry said, “The pistol bullets will only polish the metal.”

Here is the photographic evidence:

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Entrance of a .223 52 grain JHP from 30 feet.

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Side view of the .223 shot.

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Left to right are Winchester Ranger 180 grain .40 S&W, hand loaded 180 grain polymer coated lead, .223 exit.

The Winchester Rangers were probably going about 1015 fps and polished the metal a little better than the handloads going about 950 fps. I don’t have any chronograph data of my own for the .223 rounds out of my gun but Black Hills says to expect about 3250 fps.

This shows why those who wish to ban ammo that penetrates police soft body armor are actually proposing to ban all hunting ammo.

Quote of the day—Richy Wilson @RichyWilson

@INCTBON @Minutemaniac @FreedomSR9 So you’re carrying deadly weapons around because you want to make up for the size of your penis then?

Richy Wilson @RichyWilson
Tweeted on July 31, 2015
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

Via a tweet from BFD ‏@BigFatDave—Joe]

Quote of the day—Alan Gottlieb

Sen. Kaine is joining a mob of gun prohibitionists who are trying every scheme imaginable to discourage people from lawfully buying and selling firearms. He apparently wants to prosecute people for being unable to see into the future, or look into the mind of a customer, and he wants us to believe this will help prevent future crimes. If we go by the standard of his bill, he should face prosecution when his measure doesn’t prevent a crime somewhere over the horizon.

Alan Gottlieb
September 9, 2015
CCRKBA BLASTS SEN. KAINE’S NEW GUN CONTROL MEASURE
[I wish we had a SCOTUS ruling saying all “rights and privileges” cannot be subject to a law which causes a “chilling effect” on the exercise of those rights and/or privileges. Then that was followed up aggressive enforcement of 18 USC 241 and 18 USC 242.

But as my grandmother used to say, “If wishes were horses all beggars would ride.” We need to vote people into office who respect the constitution. And to do that we need to change the attitudes of the voters. That is no small task but it is a task that everyone can contribute to in their own way.—Joe]

Update to car burglary

Yesterday:

The insurance company called and resolved the details of the claim. I should be getting my compensation any day now. Most of my replacement items are in hand already.

Today:

The responding officer replied to my email asking if the guy the caught on Thursday was involved in my case:

Hi Joe,

I believe the guys caught were not involved in your prowl and I have not heard of any of your property popping up yet but hopefully soon.

Side note:

Ry pointed out the stupidity of attempting to evade a police dog close on your tail:

Crappler319

Anyone who flees on foot when the cops have a dog is a god damned moron.

At that point, you can either go to prison, or go to the hospital and then go to prison. You’re not going to outrun any German Shepherd, and chasing and biting people is literally this specific dog’s favorite thing. Motherfucker loves to bite people. He’s probably spent most of his life, since he was a puppy, being trained to chase and bite motherfuckers. This shit is like the Super Bowl and Grad night all rolled together for him.

You see how he’s pulling on his harness? He’s like “FUCKING, LET ME GO! LET ME BITE HIM! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU I’M A DOG! I’M A DOOOOOOG FUCK YOOOOU! I’M GONNA FUCK YOU UP AS SOON AS HE LETS GO OF ME I SWEAR TO GOD, I SWEAR TO GOD LET ME GO LET ME GO IWANNABITEHIMSOBAD LET ME GO LETMEFUCKINGGOOOOOOOO”

He does that every time, and his handler pretty much NEVER lets him do his thing. And now, this time, miraculously, he has. He’s let go of the harness, and now this majestic beast is at last fulfilling his purpose as a living missile, and my god is he ever thrilled about it.

And you, with your stumpy little human legs, overabundance of slow twitch muscle fibers, and soft, delicate skin, are going to try to run from this 80 lb mass of muscle and enthusiasm with a bear trap on the end? Good luck, you stupid, stupid asshole. I’ll see you in the Timothy Treadwell Memorial Ward for People Who Predictably Had Their Shit Ruined by Large Predators. Shine on, you idiotic diamond.

I laughed so hard my stomach hurt and there were tears running down my face. But maybe that is because for now I have a “special place” in my heart for people who steal things from cars.

Quote of the day—KBRC

If you need brute force and violence, get a man. If you need pure evil, get a woman.

KBRC
September 2, 2015
Comment to The Female Psychopath
[There may be more than a little truth to this.

Perhaps also related is this blog post.—Joe]

Action item

From Alan Korwin:

At your next meeting where politicians
or candidates are present just ask:

“As a candidate for office, do you support a moratorium on sales taxes on gun safes, to encourage people to buy and use them?”

Washington state does not have sales tax on gun safes. IIRC it went through the legislature and was signed by the governor without too much effort.

And why don’t we try getting subsides and/or tax credits for firearms safety training?