Quote of the day—Ira Stoll

How can one imagine a socialist state without prisons? I mean, I can understand the tactical benefit of emptying out the prisons during a revolutionary period, the way that, say, the Bolsheviks released criminals from Tsarist prisons about a century ago to advance their communist coup.

Once a socialist state is up and running, though, some sort of prison system is necessary. How else to enforce the confiscatory taxation necessary to pay for a vast welfare state in an economy with the inefficiency of socialism? Liens, payroll withholding, fines, and asset forfeiture can only get a government so far.

Socialist wage and price controls often spawn a black market. How is the government supposed to prevent smuggling of goods, bartering, or off-the-books labor without being able to punish violators with prison?

Socialist state-owned enterprises are so poorly run that the only way they can survive is by using the power of the state to outlaw competition. How would a state-owned enterprise be able to preserve its monopoly without being able to throw would-be competitors in prison?

Ira Stoll
April 23, 2018
The Irony of Socialists Calling for Abolishing Prisons
Prisons are a staple of socialist political and economic systems, and always have been.

[True socialists, as opposed to those that use socialism as a tool to gain power, have never been that well connected to reality.

It’s possible these people figure that “”reeducation camps”, mental hospitals, and executions will work just fine without traditional prisons. You just never know which path a particular flavor of socialism will go down. You know that the direction will be down.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Gary Hetherington

When Nanny Bloomberg turned his considerable wealth from banning Bladder Busters to banning firearms, groups like Moms Demand Action suddenly appear. I suppose they chose to call themselves Moms, because more accurate labels such as Bored Housewives for Gun Control, Alinskyites for Common Sense, and Do-Gooders for Your Own Good, just don’t have the same marketing cachet.

Gary Hetherington
April 19, 2018
Letter: Chicago’s lack of political will no reason to impose gun control on rest of Illinois
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Lyle

It won’t happen all at once of course, but progressively. It’s already in progress. Eventually, everyone who dissents against the coercive state will be deemed “mentally unfit”. We’ve seen these kinds of things before, so there’s no need for speculation.

It is all in play right now, protected by our normalcy bias and our incredulity.

In case you still wonder how things have gone so far into the gutter of destruction and mass death in other countries throughout history; this is exactly how, we’re living it, so wonder no more.

Lyle
April 17, 2018
Comment to Quote of the day—Stonekettle @Stonekettle regarding mental fitness requirements to own a firearm.
[Yes. It would seem we are living on a path to oppression. They want us dead and they are working the mobs into a frenzy. The mobs will give the politician the political cover needed to do the rest.

We must work the social angle. Wear your shirts, coats, and hats that identify yourself as a gun owner. Speak out when those that hate you express their venom. Stand proud, be respectful of the rights of others, and insist they respect ours. Do not let them characterize us as vermin to be exterminated.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Shepard Book

A government is a body of people, usually, notably ungoverned.

Shepard Book
December 6, 2002
Firefly: War Stories
[Jaime and I were watching Firefly for about the third time and this kind of jumped out at me and we had a little chat about the series. Josh Whedon created this series and it is, or at least Jaime and I she it as, filled with libertarian ideas. Yet Whedon is somewhat outspoken political with very non-libertarian ideas. We were unable to resolve this in the minute or so we devoted to it.

Now I wonder if perhaps Whedon views libertarians as idealist losers or some such thing. They have appealing principles but are totally impractical and will always lose when they face reality.

This would make them a great set of characters in the series. They are easy to be sympathetic with because they are basically good people. But they have a lot of conflict and stress because they are inherently unsuited for the reality of the situation they find themselves in.—Joe]

Doomed

Via email from Rolf.

If you define “liberal” as someone on the socialist->communist spectrum:

CyclesOfHistory

I was reminded of this by the recent comments here.

Upgrade

With all the anti-gun owner stuff going on when the NRA called last month I immediately upgraded my membership:

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When some Republican fundraiser called me yesterday I told him, “I’m very nearly a one issue voter. I care about gun ownership rights. You guys just passed a bunch of gun control stuff. We are done! I’m giving my money to the NRA. If you want it you need to earn it from them.” He tried to keep talking but I hung up on him.

Quote of the day—Wraith

Leftism is, at its core, based upon the abject and unapologetic denial of observable reality.

They’re not just insane, they’re proudly insane. Point out their hypocrisy until Gabriel blows his horn, and it won’t affect them a bit. We’re dealing with people who have knowingly and willingly turned their backs on any form of logic and reason. The only reason they’re winning is that sane people haven’t stepped up and put them in the rubber room where they obviously belong.

Wraith
April 11, 2018
Comment to Quote of the day—Alan Korwin
[I don’t think a “rubber room” is appropriate for all of them. Some belong in prison.

And there are alternatives which I believe will work with most of them. But it’s a time consuming process and requires some isolation.—Joe]

It’s none of their business

Via email from Brian Keith:

27rbev

Nearly all politicians are people who want to rule over other people. It should be no surprise that when they achieve power they want to exercise it. It is what gives meaning to their life even if it is none of their business what they want to control.

Don’t ever forget this telling insight into their minds:

If you put out a reg, it matters.  I think that’s really where the thrill comes from.  And it is a thrill; it’s a high… I love it; I absolutely love it.  I was born to regulate.  I don’t know why, but that’s very true.  So as long as I’m regulating, I’m happy.

Marthe Kent

This is why we have a constitution which enumerated the limited powers of the government. It was supposed to protect against this sort of crap. It hasn’t. There is no branch of government specifically tasked with arresting and prosecuting those who violate their oath of office. Hence, we ended up with a huge mess and in the middle of a (5th generation) civil war.

Quote of the day—Alan Korwin

Congrats to NRA experts on a tremendous plan for the schools — the left would have to show blatant hypocrisy and self-defeating behavior to turn this down. Schools need this, it can only help. The left may be inclined to fight it, solely because of its eminently qualified source, which would be an utter and dangerous shame.

Alan Korwin
April 2, 2018
NRA Is The Devil! — Or Maybe Not.

https://www.nationalschoolshield.org/
[Alan usually has the anti-gun people figured out. This time he is thinking rationally and fails to predict their response correctly.

The left would have to show blatant hypocrisy and self-defeating behavior to turn this down”?

No. It would be self-defeating to them if school shootings stopped. School shootings are the absolute best tool they have in their fight against gun owners! The more the better! More money for their cause, more support for restrictive gun laws, because, “What we have isn’t working we need more restrictions on guns!”

David Hogg is a product of a gun-free zone

Via Stephanie:

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She also points out Massad Ayoob once said:

Gun-free zones are hunting preserves for psychopathic murders.

The political left created the problem of school shootings. They then use the problem to justify a new “solution” which will make things worse. Hogg, in so many ways, with his crap for brains “solutions”, was produced by leftists and is a tool of the leftists.

A protest march and a catchy chant should work

Via email from Brian Keith:

27nsws

It makes sense. Just ignore what Mao Tse-Tung said:

Every Communist must grasp the truth, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

When the tyrant starts loading you into the cattle cars you should just come up with a catchy chant and march away from the trains. That should work just fine.

Oh, maybe the anti-gun people, nearly all of them with a communist streak, do understand the truth of Mao and that is the reason they want to take our guns. Their plans are that it is we who are loaded into the cattle cars. Gee, I never thought of that before!

Quote of the day—Michael Z. Williamson

If a bureaucrat has the authority to state that AND ENFORCE IT, there is no Republic. Literally any cabinet head, or possibly lower, can declare outlawry, steal property, seize anything, without even the pretense that an existing law was broken. Law will be whatever they say it is, any day of the week. Any religion can be illegal or mandatory. Anything can be contraband or mandatory. The rule of law simply fails to exist. If this doesn’t terrify you, I guess you can go now. Good luck. There’s nothing I can do when they quite literally do come to put you in those camps you fear, which just became a solid reality.

Michael Z. Williamson
March 24, 2018
If You Hate Guns, I Need Your Help
In regard to the ATF making a rule to ban bump stocks.
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Joe Gallagher

Very unfortunate as this is caused by Trump spreading HATE. Why is it ok for him to do it but if it was normal citizen they would be arrested for inciting this type of behavior.

Joe Gallagher
Tweeted on April 3, 2018
Regarding the active shooter at YouTube Headquarters.
[Wow! I knew Trump was incredibly persuasive, but this is almost unbelievable.

Well… actually, I don’t believe it at all. Gallagher has some sort of mental disorder if he believes this.

And, in fact, if politics were involved (highly speculative at this point) in this shooting the odds are that the shooter was a Democrat and if the victims were not random then the chances the victims were not Democrats are higher than local demographics would predict. Hence, Gallagher has crap for brains and/or he is deliberately attempting to troll people.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Bill Murray

The thing that’s so powerful about students is that, when you haven’t had your idealism broken yet, you’re able to speak from a place that has no confusion, where there is a clear set of values.

Bill Murray
March 22, 2018
Bill Murray Endorses Gun Control Movement, Compares Parkland Students to Vietnam War Protesters
[This reminds me of something I saw on Facebook. A parent wrote about how proud they were that their children were being “leaders” in regards to gun control. This was a place were I couldn’t confront them, but I wanted to ask, “Would you want your kids being “leaders” on foreign policy too? If not, then why do you want them being “leaders” on domestic policy?

When the German National Socialists passed the Weapons Control Act of 1938 I’ll bet you could have found lots of people who said essentially the same thing as what Murray says about gun control. Idealism, check. No confusion, check. Clear set of values, check.

The same could be said for many those who supported the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, Westboro Baptist Church, and Marxists.

In most cases there are also succinct words for these type of people. “Ignorant”, “Prejudiced”, and “Bigoted”.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jeff Snyder

The people, among the most highly regulated on earth, told themselves that they were free because they retained the means of revolt. Just in case things ever got really bad. No one, however, seemed to have too clear an idea what “really bad” really meant. The people accepted the fact that their government no longer even remotely resembled the plan set forth in their original constitution. And the people’s values no longer remotely resembled those of their Founding Forebears. The people, in their naiveté, really believed that the means of revolt were to be found in a piece of inanimate metal! Really it was laughable. And pathetic.

No, the rulers knew that the people could safely be trusted with arms. The government educated their children, provided for their retirement in old age, bequeathed assistance if they lost their jobs, mandated that they receive health care, and even doled out food and shelter if they were poor.

Jeff Snyder
October 18, 2004
Walter Mitty’s Second Amendment
[This relates to what Lyle said the other day.

I have Snyder’s Nation of Cowards which is a collection of his essays. Nearly every paragraph of every essays qualifies as QOTD material. And as Sean F. told me a few months ago, Snyder is just mind blowing with his views on the right to keep and bear arms. If I could get every anti-gun person to read just one simple book, this would be it. I’m tempted to buy a stack of them and hand them out to people. It is absolutely amazing stuff.—Joe]

Quote of the day—John Paul Stevens

Demonstrators should seek more effective and more lasting reform. They should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment.

A constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option.

John Paul Stevens
Former U.S. Supreme Court Justice
March 27, 2018
John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment
[H/T to Paul Koning.

Although it doesn’t seem to be they are saying it these days, don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.

Apparently Stevens has forgotten about U S v Cruikshank:

The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.

Oh, and I think he is also unaware there is the small matter of 300 to 600 million firearms currently in circulation, extremely low compliance with existing requirements to register or turn in firearms, over 60% of the police say they will not enforce more restrictive gun laws, and the tens of billions of rounds of ammunition that will have to be “collected” before the guns are confiscated.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Rich Burgess

There may be many different answers to school shootings and other massacres. There may be none. One thing that cannot be argued by rational people is that the answer to these realities cannot consist of advocating more violence against people, whether it be at the hands of deranged lunatics or the government. Disarming individuals has never, and cannot make those individuals safer.

Rich Burgess
President of Connecticut Carry
March 26, 2018
With Regards to the ‘March for our Lives’
Emotional Collectivism Makes You Vulnerable To Those With Bad Intentions
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Rep. Tom Suozzi

It’s really a matter of putting public pressure on the president. This is where the Second Amendment comes in, quite frankly, because you know, what if the president was to ignore the courts? What would you do? What would we do?

Rep. Tom Suozzi (D)
March 2018
Congressman suggests Second Amendment as means of opposing Trump
[Via email from Lyle who commented (and also suggested this was appropriate):

If nothing else it demonstrates once again that they understand the constitution. They oppose it, not because they fail to understand it, but because they do understand it.

I cannot find fault with this conclusion.—Joe]

Quote of the day—David French

Faced with a generation of defeat in the gun debate, the Left is increasingly turning to one of its favorite weapons in the culture war, stigma. It’s mobilizing its tribe — including progressive corporations, Hollywood, and the mainstream media — to not just make policy arguments but also to shame and insult Americans who disagree. The goal is to make gun ownership culturally toxic.

But shame is weaker than love. Gun owners who’ve experienced a threat possess or carry a weapon because they love their families. Teachers who wish to carry a weapon at school do so because they love the kids under their care. These folks know that their responsible gun ownership makes their communities and families safer.

Why does the Left keep losing the gun debate? Because it’s hard to persuade any man or woman to surrender an unalienable right — especially when exercising that right helps preserve the most vital right of all, the right to live.

David French
March 5, 2018
Why the Left Won’t Win the Gun-Control Debate
[It’s hard to win a debate when you are being shouted down by an angry mob or going into hiding because you and the lives of your children are being threatened.

It may not be long until the “debate” goes non-linear and gun owners will be required to use a much louder voice to get their points heard. It’s too bad the restrictions on suppressors haven’t been lifted yet.—Joe]

Constitutional protection won’t matter

John Robb has presented us with an extremely interesting scenario:

Weaponized social networks have seized control of the political process from the traditional political parties and their media gatekeepers. They are in charge now and, more importantly, they are rapidly evolving. Getting more powerful with each passing day.

This effort gets teeth, and the capacity to impact millions of people simultaneously, through a list. A list of gun owners. A list built in part using leaked/stolen government data and through the reporting of friends, family, neighbors, coworkers, and more. A list that is potentially stored in a blockchain for durability and enhanced with rumors (statements or pictures of people on the list that makes them look dangerous). With this list in hand, network members would then turn up the pressure on individuals:

  • Employers would refuse employment or fire individuals who own guns, in the name of workplace safety, at the urging of other employees.
  • Parents would put pressure on schools to ban the parents who own guns from attending school functions or put in place extra security at schools targeting children living in gun owning households.
  • With pictures and and a little open source facial recognition software, anyone on the list could be IDed by anyone with a smart phone.

Get the picture? In short, everything from getting access to a building to renting an apartment to getting a date could get very hard for reputed gun owners to do nearly overnight.

All without legislation or government regulations.

Scare you a bit? It should.

I can see this happening in leftist enclaves but in the vast area of the country where guns and gun owners are accepted. The boycotts and shunning only work when those your are shunning are a small enough minority that you don’t really need them. Are they going to boycott most of the farmers, miners, and others who supply their water and energy?

That boycott won’t last more than a week and the payback may be far more than they bargained for.

And when the mobs surround the homes of gun owners I see visions of the shopkeepers with rifles on top of their buildings during the L.A. riots.

And what about the police? They are generally on our side even though their political overlords may not be. Will they be “unable to identify” the person who drove off the rioters attempting to torch someone in their car.

But, even in the best case imaginable above, the better result is to never get into the situation. Gun owners all need to “come out of the closet” and make it clear we are normal people. We do not have blood on our hands from the school shootings. We did not create the victim disarmament zones. We offer calm, rational, solutions and our opponents offer angry mobs.