Category Archives: Gun Rights

Quote of the day—Timothy H. Lee

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Whether restrictionists are guilty of deliberate dishonesty, simple ignorance or some amalgam thereof is open to speculation.

But what’s beyond debate is the fact that gun controllers’ agenda is untethered from simple, demonstrable fact.

Timothy H. Lee
September 5, 2019
Gun Controllers: The Most Uninformed Among Leftist Subgroups
[Via an email from Paul K.

The political left is experiencing a mass delusion on a scale which is beyond anything I have knowledge of. Some people, at the higher levels, are certainly guilty of deliberate dishonesty. A very large percentage are guilty of willful ignorance. Some are guilty of simple ignorance. And, finally, some are useful idiots.

The final sorting of these different types of people I leave for the judges and juries.—Joe]

It’s time to ban assault knives

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A mass stabbing in Florida:

Tallahassee police were called around 8:35 a.m. to Dyke Industries, a building materials company located on Maryland Circle in an industrial park off Hartsfield Road.

When officers arrived, they found a number of stabbing victims and began treating them on the scene, said Officer Damon Miller, a spokesman for TPD. It was not immediately clear whether anyone was killed. Five people were taken to Tallahassee Memorial HealthCare and were being treated.

A suspect is in custody, though police gave no description of the person or a possible motive for the violence. A source told the Democrat the suspect is currently being interrogated.

Most large employers I have worked for ban possession of knives as well as guns. I wonder how this happened.

Quote of the day—Larry Correia

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I am strangely okay with the city of San Francisco designating me a terrorist. If San Francisco liked me I would be wondering where I had gone wrong in life.

Larry Correia
September 4, 2019
Controversial Gun Politics Opinion Time
[There is more than a little truth for all of us in that statement.

In related news:

I would like to think that San Francisco inadvertently volunteered to bail the NRA out of its poor financial situation.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Red Nation Rising @RedNationRising

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The democrats will stop at nothing to push their agendas. I’d love to know how many acts of violence have been orchestrated by them to push gun control. I suspect the results would match our suspicions.

ConspiracyTheory

Red Nation Rising @RedNationRising
Tweeted on September 8, 2019
[Back in the late 1990s this was a common suspicion. I never heard anyone say they thought the shooter themselves planned it as a means to pass gun control bills. They mostly suspected it was some sort of mind control or “programming” of mentally unstable people. I thought it extremely unlikely.

The probabilities increased dramatically with the Las Vegas shooting. A rich, old, white guy was a different demographic than we had ever seen before. There was picture of the murderer at a Hillary rally wearing a vagina hat but there was little else to gives us clues as to his political persuasion or possible motivation. The expense, planning, and horrendous number of victims indicated something well beyond what other murderers had demonstrated.

Then there was another mass murder, I forget which one, with a manifesto explicitly advocating more gun control. There are no more probabilities. There is only certainty that it has happened. The questions are now, “How many times has it happened?” and “How many more times will it happen before we can put an end to, or dramatically reduce, their incredibly evil activities?”—Joe]

Quote of the day—William Cairns @guppy270

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What’s it like to be such a robotic, soulless gun nut freak, making up for an incredibly small part of your anatomy by brandishing a gun?

William Cairns @guppy270
August 23, 2019
Tweeted on August 23, 2019
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

This is what they think of you.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Bill @WLFManBill

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I guess a well-regulated clock is when the government dictates time.

Bill @WLFManBill
Tweeted on September 5, 2019
[That settles that.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Dean Engemoen (@deanengemoen)

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Go fuck yourself, shithead. The only violence I am interested in is taking care of every right-wing shithead who thinks that AR-15’s are appropriate in a decent society.

Dean Engemoen (@deanengemoen)
Tweeted on September 4, 2019
[Ahhhh… yes. The voice of tolerance in a decent society.

What would the death count if he got his way? 50 Million? 100 million?

Well, that certainly convinces me to give up all my guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—San Francisco Board of Supervisors

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RESOLVED, That the City and County of San Francisco intends to declare the National Rifle Association a domestic terrorist organization.

San Francisco Board of Supervisors
September 3, 2019
[See also here and here.

Did it every occur to these people that if gun owners are going to be treated like terrorists some of them might decide it’s time to act like terrorists? Probably. That could even be the prime objective.

That the Board of Supervisors, unanimously, voted to declare the nations oldest civil right organization a “domestic terrorist organization” tells us a lot more about the Board of Supervisors than it does the NRA and its members.—Joe]

Quote of the day—J.D. Tuccille

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While weaponizing laws against political opponents may buy votes among the faithful in the short term, it delegitimizes laws and their enforcers in the eyes of their targets. That further reduces any possibility of compliance with laws that already have a history of being honored only in the breach. When the dust settles, the government ends up looking weak and the law pointless. And the country will be more divided than ever.

Maybe O’Rourke and his colleagues will eventually be able to turn their gun confiscation wishes into law, but history is very clear that most people will defy the prohibition.

J.D. Tuccille
September 4, 2019
Beto’s Impossible Gun Ban Dreams
[Not only will such a prohibition be defied, there is a greater risk. It’s possible the people will implement a prohibition on prohibiting politicians. If they do, one should expect the people will have a higher success rate than that achieved by the politicians in banning guns.

Let’s keep them from being elected, get some good court rulings, and avoid the whole mess.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Carl Bussjaeger

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This is the 21st century; the firearms cat is out of the bag. If you want to use gun control to stop shootings, you need to reduce the nation to a sparsely populated Stone Age society.

Carl Bussjaeger
September 2 2019
Nasty, Brutish, and Short
[For the stated assumption this is true. But it’s not about stopping shootings. It’s about making the resistance of tyranny difficult. Certain types of gun control, such as successful gun registration, can accomplish that.

The obvious conclusion is that those insisting on gun control which has no possibility of stopping the mass shootings must have an incredibly evil agenda as their real goal.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Lisa Donovan O’Dwyer @lodawake

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Just to clarify. Never owned a gun, never touched a gun, never will, so if u need to keep your semi-automatics because of people like me with my love of democracy, anti racism, women’s rights, my protest signs and my superior Wit, I’m thinking small dicks abound. #NRABloodMoney

Lisa Donovan O’Dwyer @lodawake
Tweeted on August 8, 2019
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

It may be that she does have a quicker wit than most who validate Markley’s Law. She either deleted her account or temporary disabled it with a few hours of the tweet above.

H/T The Original SPQR in 3D @SPQRzilla.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Alan Gottlieb

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Evidently the five senators signing onto this brief are terrified that the nation’s high court is about to examine the extreme nature of local gun control laws and their constitutionality under the Second Amendment.

Instead of the Supreme Court dismissing the case we believe the court should reject the amicus brief. It is an insult to the court’s integrity, and to the Constitution, itself.

Contrary to what the Whitehouse Five contends in their brief, the nation needs the Supreme Court to take Second Amendment cases and determine whether laws such as the one in New York are infringements, and then provide guidance to the lower courts about where the constitutional line may be drawn.

Alan Gottlieb
August 30, 2019
SAF APPLAUDS SENATE REPUBLICANS FOR CONDEMNING DEM. THREAT TO HIGH COURT
[Dismissing the brief… Hmmm… I kind of like that. But I wonder, without further justification, if that would be unconstitutional in some way?—Joe]

Gun cartoon of the day

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Via Chris Knox:

LynchTheGun

That’s not far off from reality. Alan Gottlieb elaborates.

Gun control is not about reducing crime. It is about reducing the availability of firearms. With this world view increasing crime is desired because it increases the justification for gun control.

That’s some really messed up thinking but it’s the logical conclusion from the available evidence.

Quote of the day—Thomas Sowell

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Proposals for reform are often dismissed because they have no “realistic” chance of being adopted. But none of the major reforms of the past had any realistic chance of being adopted when they were first proposed.

Thomas Sowell
March 6, 1999
THOMAS SOWELL: Back again – random thoughts
[This is my justification for reiterating that those who attempt to deny people their right to keep and bear arms should be prosecuted. To that end I have created these links for quick and easy access for everyone to use: http://bit.ly/EnjoyYourTrial1 and http://bit.ly/EnjoyYourTrial2.—Joe]

Think about it

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Via Elisabeth Diamond @diamactive2001:

ForefathersVsTyrantsAnyQs

At first I thought this was awesome. It’s not just old white guys supporting the right to keep and bear arms to protect themselves from a slave rebellion. Gandhi in this category might be a surprise to some, but it’s true (see also here). Martin Luther King Jr. is another which might also surprise people, but again, it’s true.

But after more thought I realized the tyrants listed are actually admired leaders to some. For example, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong each murdered 10s of millions of their own citizens after disarming them. But yet, there are still people today that not only advocate for the political philosophy of these tyrants but admire the tyrant for their accomplishments.

Hence, freedom lovers, as well as hard core Marxists, can both look at this image and find it supporting their world view. When you think about it, that’s kind of weird and messed up.

Quote of the day—Tirno

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Let me boil down the position of an anti-CCW advocate: “When I get what I want, my political enemies in this matter will be subjected to assault, rape and murder that they used to be able to stop. One-hundred-thousand to one-and-a-half-million people that disagree with me, per year, according to official government estimates, will suffer bodily harm if I get what I want, and I’m OK with that, if not actually gleeful.”

Tirno
August 22, 2019
Comment to Quote of the day—Brian Malte
[Excellent point.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Brian Malte

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We used to fall into this trap as advocates when reporters would ask, ‘What would have stopped this shooting?’ We’d be trying our very best to say, ‘This policy would have.’ And that was the wrong answer because it’s not true. There’s no one policy that’s going to stop any shooting—it takes a multitude of solutions. Many times our movement would play into the NRA’s defeatist…attitude.

Brian Malte
August 21, 2019
Trump Thinks Background Checks Won’t Stop Shootings. He’s Wrong.
[Although isn’t not in the form of a direct quote Malte is also credited with:

For their part, gun control activists have learned that it’s better to steer clear of the debate over what caused a particularly horrific shooting, explains Brian Malte, who was a senior official at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence—now known as Brady United—in the aftermath of the Newtown massacre.

What I conclude from this article is significantly different from what the author and those interviewed conclude.

What I conclude is that they admit to knowing that the “solutions” they push in response to a mass shooting could not possibly have prevented those deaths. They push for them anyway.

They are admitting they are not stupid. They are admitting they are not ignorant. They are admitting that it is a deliberate infringement of the specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms with no possibility of reducing the harm they claim to be so concerned about. They are admitting they are evil.

This can and should be used at their trials.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Ammo.com

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There was, predictably, very little meaningful blowback on the United States Marshals Service or any other parts of the federal government. The Ruby Ridge Task Force delivered a highly redacted 542-page report. And the six marshals involved in the initial shootout were given the highest commendations awarded by the United States Marshal Service.

Ammo.com
August, 2019
Siege at Ruby Ridge
[A similar thing happened with the Waco massacre. The ATF agents who attacked and killed innocent people were given medals and a memorial was created for the agents who died when their victims fought back.

I would like to suggest justice would have been better served if their estates, including their viable organs, had been auctioned off, the proceeds given to the survivors of the Branch Davidians, and then their heads mounted on pikes in front of ATF headquarters for a few months.—Joe]

Quote of the day—The Babylon Bee

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An exhaustive new study from the CDC reveals that the leading cause of gun violence in America is your political opponents. Researchers looked at a number of potential causes of gun violence such as mental health, family situation, cultural shifts, gun laws, rap music, videogames, sugar consumption, and the actual gunman, but by and large, the most prominent cause of gun violence was what most already suspected. The fault lies with those who you disagree with politically.

TheBabylonBeeGunViolenceCauses

The Babylon Bee
August 5, 2019
Study Shows Leading Cause Of Gun Violence Is Those You Disagree With Politically
[Yes, it’s satire. Still, a disinterested observer could listen to both sides of the issue and arrive at the above conclusion.—Joe]

Probably not a hunting license

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H.R.5087 was introduced February 26, 2018 but I just now got around to looking at it and discussing it with some people.

It has some “interesting” provisions:

This Act may be cited as the “Assault Weapons Ban of 2018”.

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The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:

“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

“(i) A pistol grip.

“(ii) A forward grip.

“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.

“(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.

“(v) A barrel shroud.

“(vi) A threaded barrel.

“(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

“(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.

“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

“(i) A threaded barrel.

“(ii) A second pistol grip.

“(iii) A barrel shroud.

“(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

“(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

“(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any one of the following:

“(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.

“(ii) A pistol grip.

“(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.

“(iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.

“(v) A forward grip.

“(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.

“(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:

…

“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.

“(L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled.

“(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).

“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.

“(L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled.

“(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).

It also defines “high capacity feeding devices” as devices capable of holding, or being easily modified to hold, more than 10 rounds.

“(w) (1) It shall be unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

It does provide for grandfathering existing firearms and accessories.

Minor off topic question, does such as thing as a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine even exist?

Discussions at the range concluded that you didn’t need to squint very hard to read it as something other than the intended “Assault Weapons Ban”. If the courts were to rule the law constitutional then it would also double as a license to hunt politicians.

I could see that being the outcome, but I expect there are other sparks more likely to ignite the tinder before this bill runs it’s course. I’m thinking letting Antifa run wild is likely to “flip the switch” before the enactment of gun bans and the multi-year court delays does the trick.