Category Archives: Gun Rights

Quote of the day–Gun Guys

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But this is the reality of the idea that firearms in “good” hands can somehow protect us from firearms in “bad” hands. They can’t, and even if they help in one lucky situation, the balance of all the pain and suffering they make possible in every other just is not worth it.

Guy Guys
May 23, 2007
Referring to the fact that Peter Husmann was wounded while attempting to stop the shooting in Moscow last weekend.
Idaho Gunman Had Mental Illness History, CCW Owner Shot at Scene
[Apparently, according to this nut case, even police shouldn’t have guns. He is facing the problem that if you believe guns in the hands of the police can be used for good then you will have to admit that guns in the hands of private citizens must, at least sometimes, be a good thing also. He solves this dilemma by claiming guns are so seldom used for good that they shouldn’t even be in the hands of the police.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Dan Weaver

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It is not a help. In fact, it’s a hindrance and it greatly places people in danger. The police are liable to shoot someone with a gun.

Dan Weaver
Moscow Police Chief
May 21, 2007
UI senior tried to help but became victim
Referring to Peter Husmann who grabbed his pistol and went to help stop the person shooting up the Latah County Courthouse.
[I’m in total agreement with Weaver. In addition the evacuation and care of Husmann consumed resources that could perhaps have been better allocated to other tasks had Husmann not been collecting bullet wounds. If you are there when the shooting breaks out and can stop the shooter then by all means do so. But you don’t leave a safe area and seek out the shooter. There may be some exceptions such as when the police will not be arriving for many minutes or perhaps hours and your loved ones are in danger but Husmann’s actions were clearly wrong. This event took place just outside the Sheriff’s office and maybe three blocks from the Moscow Police Station. In this case the police response time could be expected to be within one or two minutes and perhaps even in seconds. A person out of uniform with a gun in hand in these circumstances when the police arrive have special names–they are call a “Target” or “Bullet Magnet”. I understand Husmann’s motivation. I am glad there are people willing to put themselves in danger to help others. But this wasn’t the time or the place.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Gen. James H. Doolittle

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If a gun bill will pass because of the politics of a situation, you must see to it that its burdens are imposed upon a man because of a criminal background and not because he is an ordinary citizen and perhaps poor.

Gen. James H. Doolittle

Quote of the day–Joe Waldron

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Inside sources claim the gun control community (Sarah Brady, et al) are urging D.C. Mayor Fenty to stay away from the Supreme Court and just try to rewrite the D.C. ban to allow very restrictive handgun licensing a la New York City.

Joe Waldron
May 18, 2007
GOAL Post 2007-Final Legislative Update from Olympia
[Exactly two months ago I said they should do this–If they were smart.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Robert Levy

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I think that it is very unlikely that five justices on the Supreme Court are going to say that the Second Amendment means nothing. That’s what they would have to say to uphold the total ban on handguns that exists in Washington D.C.

It is also especially unlikely during the heat of the 2008 election—and that is when it is going to happen—because it would be a rallying cry for the whole pro-gun committee. Just like an abortion decision that overturned Roe v. Wade would animate the pro-choice folks. That kind of political turmoil is something the court is sensitive to.

Dr. Robert Levy
April 19, 2007
Interview: The Way of the Gun
Mother Jones
[Mother Jones is typically a left wing news magazine. Levy is the lawyer is driving the Second Amendment challenge to D.C.’s ban on guns. Also known as the Parker case. I think it should have been “community” rather than “committee” but still–Levy has his act together.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Huey Newton

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An unarmed person is a slave, or is subject to becoming a slave at any time.

Huey Newton
[See also Negros With Guns and blog postings one and two. Of course Newton want to implement the slavery of communism in this country but that’s a distraction from the truth of his statement above.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Patrick V. Murphy

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We are at the point in time and terror where nothing short of a strong uniform policy of domestic disarmament will alleviate the danger which is crystal clear and perilously present.  Let us take the guns away from the people.  Exemptions should be limited to the military, the police, and those licensed for good and sufficient reasons.

Patrick V. Murphy
Former NYC Police Commissioner
HCI spokesman
[HCI, Handgun Control Inc, has become the Brady Campaign but the sentiment remains the same. Don’t let them tell you they respect the 2nd Amendment as a right for the people to keep and bear arms. If you have to be licensed, ask the government for permission, it’s not a right. It’s a privilege.–Joe]

Just what I would expect

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From a “Gun Guy” email I received.

If someone is opposed to one inalienable right, such as the right to keep and bear arms, then it comes as no surprise when they are also opposed to other inalienable rights:

Terrorism suspects shouldn’t be allowed access to any weapons, much less these deadly ones.  But if the bill is defeated by the NRA, those suspects will still be able to walk into any gun store and buy a weapon off the shelf.

“Suspects” are whoever law enforcement wants to call a “suspect”. There is no due process, another inalienable right, involved. Everyone could be a suspect. But of course “everyone” is who this bigot wants to prohibit from owning a firearm.

Another thing this idiot bigot doesn’t understand is that making it illegal to sell a “suspect” a firearm gives people an easy way to find out if they are “on the list”. Just try to buy a firearm and if you are successful you can be pretty sure law enforcement isn’t watching you or that your fake ID hasn’t been exposed yet.

If someone is so dangerous they can’t be trusted with a firearm then they shouldn’t be allowed to roam the streets and buy gasoline and matches either. Either lock them up or stop infringing their rights.

For the Love of Freedom

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I want my kids to grow up in a society that is more free than the one in which I grew up.

Anyone agree, or do you believe we are still not restricted enough?

Today we have this:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html

This:
http://arepublic.blogspot.com/2007/02/hr-1022.html

This:
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

This:
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/oaths.htm

And this:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/242fin.htm

…all at the same time.  One may connect the dots in any order.

Not bad

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I hadn’t fired (or cleaned) my pistol since last November. I did both on Sunday. I came in fifth out of twenty people. My only complaint is that I showed Adam what I thought was the best way to shoot “Secret Agent Double-Oh-Spud”. Then he was the only person to beat me on that stage.

Where’s the due process?

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From a Second Amendment Foundation news release:

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

It’s not surprising of course. The infamous Lautenberg Amendment is notable in part because of it’s lack of due process as well.

Quote of the day–“Charlie”

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The NRA should be banned as a terrorist organization. They have contributed to more deaths in the United States than any other terrorist group.

Charlie
Your Thoughts on How to Stop the Gun Lobby
Freedom State Alliance
[How ironic. The “Freedom State Alliance” endorsing the suppression of free speech, free association, and other freedoms. They have mental problems.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Scott A. Kjar

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So however much some people might yearn for gun control, it seems unlikely that it would have prevented Cho from achieving his ends. He had substitutes available, he had more than one means available to achieve his ends, and he plotted long enough to hit upon other means — especially since those other means are described in detail on TV, in the newspapers, and on the internet every day.

Scott A. Kjar
May 2, 2007
Why Economists Tend to Oppose Gun Control Laws
[With the doors chained shut even a crude sword would have been a sufficient substitute against the victims disarmed by the bigoted politicians. And as others (Was it Ry? Or was it son James?) have pointed out, “You don’t have to reload your edged weapon.” A few gallons of gasoline and a book of matches would have been rather effective in that environment as well.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Leah Woodward

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Les Baer Custom is Illinois’ garbage. Assault weapons manufacturers in Illinois are getting kicked to the curb. And for good reason.

Leah Woodward
April 30, 2007
Executive director of Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence
LeClaire council holds off vote on Les Baer Custom Inc.
[Bigots. Imagine the uproar if it were blacks or gays moving out of a place where the laws were hostile to them and at the proposed destination people called them garbage.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Tommi Avicolli Mecca

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Gun control is for sissies.

Tommi Avicolli Mecca
Beyond Chron April 24‚ 2007
[He is being sarcastic but I like to take the one line seriously. It’s this sort of behavior that is conformation that we are winning. He doesn’t even attempt to engage in an intellectual debate.–Joe]

Impressive demonstration

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Ry has a video of the Cheytac 408. Very impressive gun and cartridge.

The history was interesting to me as well. I did the same sort of thing with my .300 Win mag. I chose a bullet (the Berger 210 grain VLD) then built the gun around it. I also wrote a program for my calculator to do the trajectory calculations. I did not include the rotation of the earth into my program however. At the latitudes and ranges I expected to be shooting the rotation of the earth contributed less than 1 MOA so I figured I would just estimate that in my head if really needed.

Quote of the day–David Lapidus

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If more gun control doesn’t mitigate crime, then what does it do? Look no further than any authoritarian state or society in history. Look no further than our own Southern backyard under the Jim Crow laws — laws that in many states still had a significant presence only 50 years ago. What was one of the first things these laws did to Southern blacks? They took their guns away. In a society where even the authorities were complacent with lynching and other hate crimes, whom else could a law-abiding citizen turn to for defense against a frequently racist government and society than himself? As in many other instances of the past, gun control was used to oppress people, to remove checks and balances on despicable government policies and, in short, to do what it implies: control.

David Lapidus
April 24, 2007
Gun control unfair to law-abiding citizens
The Badger Herald

Quote of the day–Brad Bumsted

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All the gun laws in the world wouldn’t have stopped a lunatic like Cho Seung-Hui.

Brad Bumsted
April 23, 2007
Extreme Gun Control
Pittsburgh Tribune Review
[This is from an article that implies more gun control would be a good thing. You didn’t hear this sort of thing from anti-gun people after Columbine. We have made a lot of progress.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Lord Acton

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The most certain test by which we judge whether a country is really free is the amount of security enjoyed by minorities.

Lord Acton
[Gun owners are a minority and are severely harassed via registration, regulation, and media attacks that would never be tolerated were they aimed at other minorities of racial, religious, or sexual orientation composition.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Union Leader

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You can say that one gun on campus is one too many. But it is and always will be impossible to prevent a determined person with ill intent from smuggling one (or more) onto campus. The best defense against such people is to increase the number of armed good guys so that there is always someone nearby able to respond.

Union Leader
April 18, 2007
Guns on campus: One is one too few