Gun cartoon of the day

As if this has ever happened except in the minds of the anti-gun bigots.

Quote of the day–State Sen. Steve Russell

What’s next? How about Starbucks on the side of our M1 tanks?

State Sen. Steve Russell
June 14, 2010
A School Prays for Help
[Although his comment was in a completely different context and unrelated in intent I, of course, thought of it in terms of delivering a cup of Starbucks finest to Paul Helmke at his office in my personally owned, Second Amendment guaranteed, M1.–Joe]

No one suspects the frilly purse



Daughter Xenia is moving out in a few days. Barb asked me to take her shooting. We both asked her if she is going to get her concealed pistol license.

Fifty Caliber Institute on the NRA and H.R. 5175

What John C. Sigler of the Fifty Caliber Institute has to say is worthwhile reading. Particularily since his organization is one of those that the NRA “threw under the bus”.


A snippet:



To those who are claiming H.R. 5175 as an “NRA sell out”: Simply put, there was no sell out. And to suggest that there was a “sell out” is to either deny the facts or not be aware of the facts.

On the contrary, NRA does not and will not actively support H.R. 5175, in any form. “But that’s just more political semantics”, you say? Well, if you are a checker player maybe it is. But, if you are a “Spock-level” chess player, it is far from simple semantics.

Chris Cox and his staff have but one loyalty and that is to protect and defend the rights of law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms, and to position NRA so as to be an effective advocate for firearms freedom in America. Neither they nor NRA are allowed to be partisans or to tie NRA’s ability to successfully execute its mission to any other group, organization or cause. NRA is and remains a single issue organization – its Bylaws require absolute fealty to that principle.

Before you criticize NRA for understanding that this isn’t your grandpa’s checker game or even your college dean’s chess game, you need to thank them for treating this as an extremely complex exercise more akin to Mister Spock’s three dimensional chess. A chess game demanding a very sophisticated and highly intellectual approach to the very serious problem at hand. We ask you to examine the facts and watch what happens in Congress over the next several weeks and months. Don’t be fooled or misled. Wait until all of the facts are in; watch how NRA’s “Mister Spock” (Chris Cox) moves the various pieces on the political game board we call Congress; and understand that if NRA wins, all gun owners and all those who believe in the entire Bill of Rights – including the First Amendment, will ultimately win.

The stakes are high – nothing less than the ultimate survival of American freedom is at stake.


Update: In the comments Boyd points out something I had totally forgotten about. Sigler was president of the NRA from 2007 through 2009.


A source with less potential for bias but in a near identical situation would be Alan Gottlieb of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:



This week’s highly-publicized effort to exempt the National Rifle Association from the effects of the “Disclose Act,” H.R. 5175 shows how fundamentally bankrupt the legislation and its underlying philosophy is, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today.


“The attempt by Democrats to essentially buy off the NRA with a tailor-made exemption should be proof enough that the entire measure is morally, if not legally, repugnant and should be rejected by Congress,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “The exemption clause, if it were to be formally adopted as an amendment to the bill, is probably unconstitutional. We think that is reason enough for Congress to stop H.R. 5175 in its tracks.”


The proposed exemption would only apply to the NRA, while essentially sascrificing the First Amendment rights of other effective grassroots gun rights organizations due to their smaller membership numbers.


“This proposed exemption is unconscionable,” Gottlieb said, “but it reveals the desperation of its sponsors to pass legislation that would still silence organizations critical of how the Democrat leadership has mismanaged things on Capitol Hill. We are today urging our 650,000 members and supporters to tell their congressional representatives to derail the Disclose Act altogether.


“Congressional anti-gunners like nothing better than to drive wedges between effective gun rights organizations,” he continued, “and this week’s events prove they can still accomplish that. We are astonished that anybody on Capitol Hill would imagine for a heartbeat that they could buy off one gun rights group at the expense of all the others. To think they could actually get away with such smarmy Chicago-style politics suggests that the Democrat leadership in Congress has not only lost its moral compass, they’ve lost their minds.


“While it is disappointing that the NRA might have accepted the exemption,” Gottlieb said, “it is despicable that the offer was ever made in the first place. If pro-gun Democrats want to shield the NRA from the effects of H.R. 5175, they should simply vote against the entire bill instead of trying to carve out a special exemption. They have insulted and infuriated millions of gun owners who are represented by smaller grassroots organizations, and they need to hear that loud and clear.”


GOA has said something also:



Tuesday, June 17, 2010


“[T]he NRA — on whose board of directors I serve — rather than holding steadfastly to its historic principles of defending the Constitution and continuing its noble fight against government regulation of political speech instead opted for a political deal borne of self-interest in exchange for ‘neutrality’ from the legislation’s requirements.”


— NRA Director Cleta Mitchell, June 17, 2010


The above quote — part of an editorial authored by NRA Director Cleta Mitchell — ran in The Washington Post today.


Like Mitchell, bloggers and editorial writers around the country have lit up the Internet with the story that we have been alerting you to over the past 48 hours. Here are just some of the headlines:


* “The NRA sells out to Democrats on the First Amendment,” The Wall Street Journal


* “Conservatives take on the NRA over deal on disclosure bill,” The Washington Post


* “The National Rifle Association’s Excuse Holds No Water,” RedState.org


The conservative movement (and to be honest, many liberal organizations as well) are coming together to loudly protest the DISCLOSE Act — legislation that threatens to gag our ability to effectively hold individual congressmen accountable in the days and weeks leading up to an election.


It is imperative that we continue hammering the Congress. But rather than cry “uncle,” liberal Democrats are now trying to buy off more groups with an exemption for those that have at least 500,000 members (rather than the higher threshold of one million, which would have applied to few groups other than the NRA).


Of course, how is the government going to know how many members an organization has? According to the legislation, each organization will have to certify to a government commission how many members they have. But what if the commission wants documentation; will the organization have to “disclose” the names of their members?


GOA, of course, will never do this. Furthermore, you should know that your Gun Owners of America can NOT be bought off. We will continue opposing this bill on principle, urging all gun groups to stick together in this fight. As we stated yesterday, we realize that: “We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.”


GOA applauds NRA Director Cleta Mitchell for the courageous stand she took today. (You can read her editorial here.) We hope that the NRA leadership will heed her wisdom and take a stand against this bill. If they don’t, we wouldn’t be surprised if NRA members start demanding a change in their leadership. After all, the NRA has engaged in many good fights over the years, and it would be a shame to lose this VERY IMPORTANT battle because high-ranking staff led the NRA down the wrong path.

Gun cartoon of the day



Totally ignoring the facts that the NRA represents far, far, more people than the largest anti-gun group, the Bill of Rights is generally considered “mainstream”, and guns in the hands of private citizens are used to protect innocent life more often than they are used to commit crimes.

Quote of the day–Phelps

At the risk of making you feel a little ookey, I know I’m not the only one with concrete plans for the day I see the “Joe Huffman Arrested” headline.


Phelps
June 17, 2010
Comment to And your point is?
[Great. I’m the canary in the coal mine.


Just keep in mind that this canary knows how to use explosives in the mine.–Joe]

Gun cartoon of the day

It’s what they think of us.

But I suppose that is almost fair. With 60+ million disarmed people murdered by their own governments in the 20th Century I think of people who have their inalienable right to keep and bear arms infringed but continue to live in such a country as suicidal lunatics.

Quote of the day–Alan Andrews

Can we institute a murder tax too? After all, if paying a tax makes felonies ok then why not issue tax stamps for murder? Everyone has a better off dead list, wouldn’t it be nice to just pay a tax and get to work?

Alan Andrews
June 17, 2010
US’s biggest fail of the 20th Century?
[Yes, it’s a felony to not pay some other taxes as well, not just a tax on removing a few millimeters of steel from a tube. But still, it makes the point and that is pretty funny.–Joe]

Sausage

It has been said you don’t want to see laws nor sausage being made.

I don’t care much for the final product either.

Yes, I will eat sausage if it is put on my plate but I don’t think I have ever purchased it except when someone else put it on the grocery list.

Laws are a necessary evil. Some are less evil than others. But they all can and are abused by those that enforce them.

Guns laws are particularly evil because they have never been shown to have made the average person safer. Hence, they have all the potential for abuse and none of the necessity.

The potential for abuse is exemplified by a page on the Olympic Arms website where they describe the difficulty in determine whether a firearm was considered a “pre-ban” or “post-ban” “assault weapon” back when that law was in effect:

  • John Q. Public bought himself an AR-15 receiver in 1988 and put it in his
    safe. In April 1997, he decided to build it into a rifle. Was it a gun before
    The Date? No…so he has to build it into a POST-ban firearm.
  • Mary Quite-Contrary buys an AR-15 lower from her dealer who purchased it 7
    years ago, built it into a SAW 2 weeks later, and in January ’94 tore it apart
    to sell as components. Did she buy a pre-ban receiver? Yes. It was a SAW before
    the date, and is therefore pre-ban.
  • Billy Bob finds a respectable dealer at a gun show that is selling “pre-ban
    AR pistol lowers.” The dealer says he bought them before “the Ban” and
    registered them as pistol lowers, but never built them into anything. Are they
    pre-ban? No way. Are they pistol lowers? Sure…just post-ban pistol lowers. As
    long as they don’t have two or more “Deadly Features” when they are built, they
    are legal.
  • Fred Foosball buys a complete semiautomatic assault rifle kit in August
    1994, but doesn’t assemble it until September 14, 1994. Is it a legal pre-ban
    rifle. Yes it had all (and I mean ALL) of the pieces to make a complete SAW on
    The Date. BATF accepts this as a complete pre-ban rifle.
  • Josh the Impaler purchases a Remington 1100 on July 4, 1994 in order to
    celebrate Independence Day. Ax McGuitar purchases a Remington 1100 on July 4,
    1994 for duck hunting that fall. A year later, he decides that he would like a
    pistol grip and folding stock added to make it a better home defense gun. Is
    this legal? No. The shotgun was complete before The Date, but it was not a SAW
    before The Date, and therefore cannot be modified to a SAW after The Date.

It is Huffman’s rule of firearms law in full display.

And your point is?

The Huffington Post is having a PSH attack:

One of the more outlandish was a statement she made during a radio interview
last January in which she floated the idea that the public would bring down an
out-of-control Congress with “Second Amendment remedies.”

In an interview she gave with conservative talk show host Bill Manders earlier
in the campaign, Angle conspicuously floated, once again, “Second Amendment
remedies” to deal not just with the supposedly ever-growing “tyrannical” U.S.
government, but to replace her now general election opponent: Majority Leader
Harry Reid (D-Nev.)

Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep
and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who’s in the military.
This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that
Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This
is for us when our government becomes tyrannical…

Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it
might be right now.

Angle: Well it’s to defend ourselves. And you know, I’m
hoping that we’re not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will
be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.

And what’s the point of the Huffington Post in regards to this? I don’t see what the problem is. I hope we can vote our way out of the current crisis too. But the government starts rounding up dissenters to ship them off to work camps then “Second Amendment remedies” may be the only viable option.

This reminds me of something I heard at the NRA convention. I was told, “Just like Ted (Nugent) was telling me yesterday. You and I won’t have to worry about getting into an armed conflict with the government because they will pick up us on the first pass.” I’m not sure I find that comforting.

Medical pot and gun ownership

I’m a little surprised at how this turned out. I’m pleased but I still have to wonder what the Feds will think of it:

MEDFORD, Ore. — The Oregon Court of Appeals has ruled that a medical
marijuana patient can have a concealed handgun permit.

The court on Wednesday said Jackson County Sheriff Mike Winters had no
grounds to deny the permit sought by Cynthia Willis in 2008.

Winters had argued the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 was the legal basis of
his decision.

The Court of Appeals rejected the sheriff’s arguments and found that Willis
complied with state law in her application.

Portland attorney Leland Berger, who represents Willis and three others who
were denied permits, called the ruling a victory for marijuana cardholders
around the state.

To critics of the NRA over H.R. 5175

Criticism about the NRA and H.R. 5175 should take into account the original letter to Congress that resulted in their exemption from this proposed draconian law:



May 26, 2010


Dear Member of Congress:


I am writing to express the National Rifle Association’s strong concerns with H.R. 5175, the DISCLOSE Act, as well as our opposition to this bill in its current form. It is our sincere hope that these concerns will be addressed as this legislation is considered by the full House.


Earlier this year, in Citizens United v. FEC, the Supreme Court struck down the ban on certain political speech by nonprofit membership associations such as the NRA. In an attempt to characterize that ruling as something other than a vindication of the free speech and associational rights of millions of individual American citizens, H.R. 5175 attempts to reverse that decision.


Under the First Amendment, as recognized in a long line of Supreme Court cases, citizens have the right to speak and associate privately and anonymously. H.R. 5175, however, would require the NRA to turn our membership and donor lists over to the government and to disclose top donors on political advertisements. The bill would empower the Federal Election Commission to require the NRA to reveal private, internal discussions with our four million members about political communications. This unnecessary and burdensome requirement would leave it in the hands of government officials to make a determination about the type and amount of speech that would trigger potential criminal penalties.


H.R. 5175 creates a series of byzantine disclosure requirements that have the obvious effect of intimidating speech. The bill, for example, requires “top-five funder” disclosures on TV ads that mention candidates for federal office from 90 days prior to a primary election through the general election; “top-two funder” disclosure on similar radio ads during that period; “significant funder” and “top-five funder” disclosures on similar mass mailings during that period; and “significant funder” disclosure for similar “robocalls” during that period. Internet communications are covered if placed for a fee on another website, such as the use of banner ads that mention candidates for federal office. Even worse, no exceptions are included for organizations communicating with their members. This is far worse than current law and would severely restrict the various ways that the NRA communicates with our members and like-minded individuals.


While there are some groups that have run ads and attempted to hide their identities, the NRA isn’t one of them. The NRA has been in existence since 1871. Our four million members across the country contribute for the purpose of speaking during elections and participating in the political process. When the NRA runs ads, we clearly and proudly put our name on them. Indeed, that’s what our members expect us to do. There is no reason to include the NRA in overly burdensome disclosure and reporting requirements that are supposedly aimed at so-called “shadow” groups.


On the issue of reporting requirements, the bill mandates that the NRA electronically file all reports with the FEC within 24 hours of each expenditure. Within 24 hours of FEC posting of the reports, the NRA would be required to put a hyperlink on our website to the exact page on which the reports appear on the FEC’s website – and keep that link: active for at least one year following the date of the general election. Independent Expenditure reports would have to disclose all individuals who donate $600 or more to the NRA during the reporting period and Electioneering Communication reports would have to disclose all individuals who donate $1,000 or more to the NRA during the reporting period. There are literally thousands of NRA donors who would meet those thresholds, so these requirements would create a significant and unwarranted burden.


Some have argued that under the bill, all the NRA would have to do to avoid disclosing our $600 or $1,000 level donors is to create a “Campaign-Related Activity Account.” Were we to set up such an account, however, we would be precluded from transferring more than $10,000 from our general treasury to the account; all individual donors to that account would have to specifically designate their contributions in that manner and would have to limit their contributions to $9,999; the burdensome disclosure requirements for ads, mailings and robocalls would still apply; and the NRA would be prohibited from spending money on election activity from any other source – including the NRA’s Political Victory Fund (our PAC). In sum, this provision is completely unworkable.


Unfortunately, H.R. 5175 attacks nearly all of the NRA’s political speech by creating an arbitrary patchwork of unprecedented reporting and disclosure requirements. Under the bill, the NRA would have to track the political priorities of each of our individual members – all four million of them. The cost of complying with these requirements would be immense and significantly restrict our ability to speak.


As noted above, there is no legitimate reason to include the NRA in H.R. 5175’s overly burdensome disclosure and reporting requirements. Therefore, we will continue to work with members from both parties to address these issues. Should our concerns not be resolved – and to date, they have not been – the NRA will have no choice but to oppose passage of this legislation.


Sincerely,




Chris W. Cox
Executive Director



There may be more to base the criticism on but I haven’t seen it. I’m not sure what critics would have them do when congress came back to them and said, “Never mind then, the law will never affect you guys.” Should the NRA have said, in effect, “We don’t care if it doesn’t affect our organization! We are going to fight this because it wouldn’t be fair to the Brady Campaign, the VPC, and others who aren’t as big as we are.”


Yes, their principles have a basis in the Bill of Rights. But they have a higher, sometimes, conflicting principle to look after the health of their organization and the rights of their members to keep and bear arms. And it is hard to see why dropping their opposition to the proposed law, as distasteful as it is, hurts the specific enumerated right they have pledged to defend.


Here is what the NRA is going to be sending to their members on the topic:


We appreciate some NRA members’ concerns about our position on H.R. 5175, the “DISCLOSE Act.” Unfortunately, critics of our position have misstated or misunderstood the facts.

We have never said we would support any version of this bill. To the contrary, we clearly stated NRA’s strong opposition to the DISCLOSE Act (as introduced) in a letter sent to Members of Congress on May 26.


Through the courts and in Congress, the NRA has consistently and strongly opposed any effort to restrict the rights of our four million members to speak and have their voices heard on behalf of gun owners nationwide. The initial version of H.R. 5175 would effectively have put a gag order on the NRA during elections and threatened our members’ freedom of association, by forcing us to turn our donor lists over to the federal government. We would also have been forced to list our top donors on all election-related television, radio and Internet ads and mailings—even mailings to our own members. We refuse to let this Congress impose those unconstitutional restrictions on our Association.


The NRA provides critical firearms training for our Armed Forces and law enforcement throughout the country. This bill would force us to choose between training our men and women in uniform and exercising our right to free political speech. We refuse to let this Congress force us to make that choice.


We didn’t “sell out” to Nancy Pelosi or anyone else. We told Congress we opposed the bill. As a result, congressional leaders made a commitment to exempt us from its draconian restrictions on free speech. If that commitment is honored, we will not be involved in the final House debate. If that commitment is not fully honored, we will strongly oppose the bill.


Our position is based on principle and experience. During consideration of the previous campaign finance legislation passed in 2002, congressional leadership repeatedly refused to exempt the NRA from its provisions, promising that our concerns would be fixed somewhere down the line. That didn’t happen; instead, the NRA had to live under those restrictions for seven years and spend millions of dollars on compliance costs and on legal fees to challenge the law. We will not go down that road again when we have an opportunity to protect our ability to speak.


There are those who say the NRA has a greater duty to principle than to gun rights. It’s easy to say we should put the Second Amendment at risk over some so-called First Amendment principle – unless you have a sworn duty to protect the Second Amendment above all else, as we do.


The NRA is a bipartisan, single-issue organization made up of millions of individual members dedicated to the protection of the Second Amendment. We do not represent the interests of other organizations. That’s their responsibility. Our responsibility is to protect and defend the interests of our members. And that we do without apology.


Update: I have not been explaining my thought processes as well as I should have been. Let me try again:


I am vehemently opposed to the proposed legislation. IMHO the sponsors of the bill should be tried for treason and consideration of all possible punishments should be given serious consideration.

But I find it difficult to be critical of the NRA for their behavior in this affair. If the ACLU were to withdraw their opposition (I presume they are opposed) to the bill because they were given an exemption then I would be outraged because they claim free speech as a freedom they have pledged to defend.

Organizations have certain domains in which they operate. Microsoft stockholders would justifiably outraged if MS started donating all their profits to unwed mothers or providing food to all the starving children of the world. It may be that a majority of the stockholders are sympathetic to those charity cases but it would still be wrong because that is not within the charter of the organization.

And so it is with the NRA in this case. True, it’s not as clear cut. There is significant connection between the 1st and 2nd Amendments. But the concept is the same. It’s not within the NRA’s domain to protect freedom of speech if it does not affect them.

But, as I said before, I don’t trust Congress to leave the “freedom of speech loophole” open for long. And I hoped the NRA was actually playing a clever game to defeat the proposed law via dropping opposition to it. I’m less convinced they should be given credit for thinking that far ahead. I suspect they got lucky rather than being extremely clever but the end result may be the same.

This may end up being a Philosophy 101 question. Should someone (or an organization) be criticized for their intentions or on the results of their actions? If they were being very clever and defeated the bill we should praise them. If they were just looking out for the short term and got lucky with the same result should we be critical of them?


Gun cartoon of the day

Useful to whom?

The only answer I can see is that such locks are useful to the enemies of freedom.

Quote of the day–Carneades

There is absolutely no criterion for truth. For reason, senses, ideas, or whatever else may exist are all deceptive.

Even if such criterion were at hand, it could not stand apart from the feelings which sense impressions produce. It is the faculty of feeling that distinguishes the living creature from inanimate things. By means of that feeling, the living creature becomes perceptive of both itself and the external world. There is no sensation or perception of anything unless the sense is irritated, agitated, or perturbed. When an object is indicated, then the senses become irritated and somewhat disturbed. It is impossible that there be an unperturbed presentation of external things.

The subject is more or less persuaded by the image it perceives. The strength of that persuasion depends on the disposition of the subject and on the degree of irritation produced by the image. It is not the distinctness of the image that constitutes its credibility.

The only way we can ever obtain certitude is by the difficult process of examination. We cannot be satisfied with evidence that is incomplete and only probable. Our certitude is always a precarious one. Science relies on probability, not on certitude.

Carneades
Greek philosopher 214-129 B.C.
The Fallacy of the Criterion of Truth
[As near as I can tell a very high percentage of the population subscribe to the first sentence and then their subscription ran out or they turned on the T.V. to have their brains sucked dry. My discussions with many anti-gun people provides a large base of evidence to support this conclusion.

A vastly smaller percentage thought through things enough to arrive at the conclusion articulated in the first paragraph.

It is but a very small percentage of the population that make the difficult journey to the finish the last paragraph. And even those that do sometimes still conclude that because science is not certain it must be wrong and hence their certainty of something at odds with the evidence is just as valid as the science on the same topic which says else is very probable.

As son James learned, people will literally say and believe, “Because something is irrational doesn’t mean you don’t have to believe in it.”

This insistence on certainty of belief in the absence of, or in spite of, evidence drives politics and enables politicians to herd the masses like cattle. I wish there were a cure for this terrible disease. But I fear that at best there will, someday, be an adjustment in the percentages when Darwin laughs as billions struggle and fail to learn the lesson before they inevitably fail the pop-quiz of some global catastrophe.–Joe]

Gun cartoon of the day

History has shown it was not just Present Clinton, it’s now obvious it is Democrats in general, that want to suppress free speech. It just so happens that at this moment the NRA has enough power to resist for a while.

Quote of the day–Andrew Rothman

If there’s an unequivocal opposite to growing up around guns it’s being raised by New York Jews.

I grew up believing guns were bad. That’s what my parents taught me. But they also taught me to read. That was their first mistake.

Andrew Rothman
June 3, 2010
Testing Minnesota’s gun show loophole
[Being able to read isn’t a necessary or sufficient condition to arrive at the conclusion that private firearms ownership is a net benefit to society but it certainly does help.

I agree that ignorance, willful as well as unintentional, are huge problems which enable and create anti-freedom people. But I think reading comprehension and the ability and willingness to determine truth from falsity are the critical items.–Joe]

Dealing with the devil

As you probably already know the NRA made a deal with the devil:

On June 14, 2010, Democratic leadership in the U.S. House of Representatives
pledged that H.R. 5175 would be amended to exempt groups like the NRA, that meet
certain criteria, from its onerous restrictions on political speech. As a
result, and as long as that remains the case, the NRA will not be involved in
final consideration of the House bill.

The “certain criteria” are:

  1. The organization must have more than 1 million members
  2. The organization must have been in existence for more than 15 years
  3. The organization must have members in all 50 states
  4. The organization must raise 15 percent or less of their funds from corporations

Some say this set of criteria can be met by only one organization–the NRA.

There are lots of ways to read this and as good as the NRA is at backroom deals and reading the political winds I still wonder if they got this one right.

If you read things from the NRA point of view in the literal sense it comes out something like this:

The NRA is looking out for the best interests of it’s members and the organization. If the proposed law does not apply to the NRA then the NRA has no business spending political capital on it.

If you read things from the point of view of the devil it comes out something like this:

Get what we can now and we’ll get the rest later. Once it passes those poor souls in Hell will scream so loudly about the NRA exemption that we will collect the souls of the NRA on our next pass through town without any difficulty.

In this scenario the devil wins and goes home with our souls. It may have been delayed for a few months or a year, but the devil wins.

If the NRA is good, really good, they can play with the devil and win the game for everyone without even trying. That goes something like this:

The NRA gets it’s exemption then either with or without some back channel urging by the NRA the exemption stirs up such a storm that the entire bill becomes impossibly toxic with or without the exemption.

I know the NRA is good. But are they good enough to take a 1000 yard shot with the proper windage such that the political winds push the bullet into the X-ring once it has left the barrel?

I hope the NRA knows what they are doing because they are playing a game where (mixing my metaphors because there has been a Charlie Daniels earworm of The Devil Went Down to Georgia going on for the last twenty minutes) the devil deals the cards. And it’s more than just a fiddle of gold against a soul at stake.

Your Safety and the Rights of People You Hate

This started as a comment to this post of Joe’s, but Joe has told me not to bury so much in comments.


Getting to basics; rights (or equal rights) have a long history of being extremely unpopular.  The American Founders knew this. They knew our rights would be constantly under attack, and tried as they could to protect them.


I spent some time, during the Cold War, listening to Radio Moscow, Radio Havana, and several other English broadcasts from not-so-friendly countries.  These programs were aimed at Americans, and attempted to malign, impugn, and smear the capitalist, libertarian ideals upon which the U.S. is founded.  The people they had as speakers were extremely good at sounding like your favorite, American-born uncle.  Very nice, well spoken, friendly, and (drum roll) they sounded exactly like today’s more reasonable sounding pundits of the American Left.


The posted quote instantly reminded me of listening to Radio Moscow back in the day, except that it is much more vitriolic than the Soviet broadcasts.


Yes; the protection of rights makes many more things possible, however, a potentiality is not actuality.  One of those things made possible by rights protection is a prosperous, dynamic society in which people can live their lives and pursue their dreams without looking over their shoulders all the time wondering when and why they might get arrested, fined, audited, stopped at a checkpoint, harassed with no recourse, et al.  Without rights protection, that vibrant society is impossible, mainly because doing less makes you safer from the above harassment, doing more makes you a target, and doing far more, and being good at it makes you the target…at some point Atlas shrugs.


As for the safety that the left pretends it wants to force on all of us;
Just as a matter of general practicality, are you safer with your rights protected, or without?  “Safe from what” would be the next question, or “from whom”?  As we’re discussing “safety” in the public arena, keep in mind the question of whether your and your neighbor’s rights are safe.


Human rights protection means that, no matter who you are, a lot of people are going to be doing a things that you absolutely hate, but are perfectly legal anyway.  A lot of other people are going to hate what you’re doing too, but they won’t be able to stop you without committing a crime of some sort.  That’s what it means, People.  It means all the good things that go along with liberty, but it also means you have to actually be tolerant, along with being tolerated, and not just talk about tolerance to make yourself look good in public forums.


Try this mind experiment, next time you see or think of someone or some activity that you hate, or that someone else hates.  Ask yourself; “who’s rights are they violating, or trying to violate?”  That’s a very clarifying and even liberating question.  If the answer is “no one’s” then move along.  Nothing to see there.  It’s time to dig in and start minding your own business, and hopefully you’ll have the freedom to mind your own business without someone trying to mind it for you.


ETA; I was once in a very long debate with my communist brother-in-law.  He was reciting the litany [as he saw it] of horrible, evil things that Wal Mart [a big target because they do so much so well] had done over the years.  When I asked that magic question; “Who’s rights are they violating?” he shut right the hell up.  In his mind I was just “tricking” him with clever rhetoric, but in fact he had never considered rights in his extensive evaluations of Wal Mart [or, presumably, in most other areas of consideration].  Again, I blame education [or what used to be referred to as Soviet propaganda] for the mass ignorance with regard to America’s Promise.

Do people really believe this?

From the Rachel Maddow show transcript (H/T to Warthog’s Rachel Maddow compares NRA mission to Prohibition):

[T]he NRA is focused like a laser-guided scope on gun rights. They want people
on the terrorist watch list to have un-impinged gun rights.

They want
felons to have gun rights. They want crazy people to have gun rights. If you
want an assault rifle with a magazine that holds enough ammo to take out a whole
American school yard or a 50-caliber gun that shoots a bullet as big as a carrot
and can take down a pretty good-sized aircraft, if you want the right to carry
weapons like that and you don’t want a background check and you want to wear
those weapons to your neighborhood bar, the NRA has got your cold, dead back.

What is the basis for saying the NRA wants felons and crazy people to have gun rights? Has she even read the NRA web site? Or does she get all her NRA policy information via the rants of lunatics? Or is she one of those lunatics? I have to conclude the later because she implies the NRA is ineffective in it’s goals, should change it’s strategy, and furthermore goes on to compare the NRA to the prohibition movement.

What?

The VPC would be the analog to the prohibition movement. The NRA is closer to the NAACP (in the early days) or the ACLU.

Gun cartoon of the day

The anti-gun people frequently claim this but that is grossly inaccurate and is actually nothing but projection.

Look at the responses to Just One Question, “What color is orange? True or false?” What kind of a response is that? It is totally nonsensical and people claim it is some sort of brilliant insight.

Or MikeB302000 who recently proposed the VPC report on the low “gun
deaths” in Hawaii, while ignoring violent crime and murder in general,
was an adequate response to my question. I responded in his comments by
pointing out the question is concerned with safety, not the total
number of deaths (including justifiable and praiseworthy homicide)
inflicted with the use of a firearm. This sort of thing has been
pointed out to him so many times and his ass handed to him so many times
that this morning when he came back with another post claiming my
response made him wonder if my response was “an elaborate con job” it
reminded me of a joke:

A man goes hunting with his buddies, although he’d never been hunting and barely knew how to hold a rifle.

On the first day out of camp he’s walking through the woods and he comes upon a big ass bear. “Great!” he thinks to himself. But he’s so excited and nervous that when he raises his gun and fires he misses the bear by 10 feet. The bear looks at him and stands up, and shockingly speaks. “Excuse me, but you just shot at me and missed. I’m afraid I’m going to have to rip your throat out.” says the bear as he takes out his claws and ambles towards our hero.

“You’re a talking bear! Wow! I’m really sorry for shooting at you, please don’t kill me.” The bear looks at him and says, “You know I should kill you, but I’ll tell you what, if you perform oral sex on me I’ll let you live.”

Now our hero was torn between life and death, so he chose the only option he could. That night, as he sat in camp, he heard the bear walking around jawing about how he got a human to give him a mouth hug.

So the next morning he woke up knowing that he had to kill the talking bear. He walked through the woods, and suddenly came upon the bear. This time he was very tense, the adrenalin coursing through his veins. He shot, and once again missed.

The bear looked up, stood up and walked over to him. “This is the second day you’ve tried to kill me. I’m afraid I’m going to have to tear your throat out.” said the bear in a kindly fashion.

“Please Mr. Bear, I didn’t mean to do it, please don’t kill me.” our hero whimpered. “Tell you what, you bend over and let me get Gentle Ben on your buttocks and I’ll let you live.” said the bear.

Having no choice our hero did as instructed. Later on that night as he drank himself silly in camp he heard the bear walking around chanting, “Now this human took it bear style. Once you go black bear you never go back bear.”

Thus the next morning our man woke up and knew only one thing; he had to kill the talking bear. So once again he trod out to the woods. Low and behold he came upon the bear sitting on a log. He was terrified this time, more so than before. He raised his gun and BANG!!! He missed.

The bear stood up and walked slowly over to him. And when he spoke he seemed to have gotten a French accent. “Ah, it is you again.” At this point he took out a cigarette and began smoking. “But alas, do not fear me. For I think we both realize that you are not here for the hunting.”

And so it is with MikeB302000. He is so incompetent with his apparent goal of being an advocate for gun restrictions there are only three possibilities that I can think of to explain his actions:

  1. He really is that stupid.
  2. He is on our side and wants to make anti-gun people look stupid.
  3. He is a troll that enjoys sucking up our time.

But although sticking it to him a few times is entertaining there comes a point when getting your rocks off at his expense just isn’t that much fun and is a waste of time. (Again) I have reached that point in time.