Beer guzzling hillbillies versus NYPD

Last Sunday the Lewiston Pistol Club ran a USPSA stage which mimicked the NYPD shooting at the Empire State Building. Here are the results:

Stage No:

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Police at Empire State Building

Place

Name

No.

Class

Division

Points

Penalties

Time

Hit Factor

Stage Pts

Stage %

1

Adam

13

M

Limited

80

0

7.09

11.2835

80.0000

100.00%

R2

Mark

22

U

Production

78

0

8.32

9.3750

66.4687

83.09%

3

Robert

20

U

Open

79

0

9.46

8.3510

59.2086

74.01%

4

Mark

12

U

Limited

78

0

9.53

8.1847

58.0295

72.54%

5

Joe Huffman

5

B

Limited

80

0

10.05

7.9602

56.4378

70.55%

6

Velle

8

U

Production

78

0

10.27

7.5949

53.8478

67.31%

7

Jon

9

U

Limited 10

78

0

10.40

7.5000

53.1750

66.47%

8

John

4

C

Limited

78

0

10.89

7.1625

50.7821

63.48%

9

Brian

17

U

Open

76

10

9.62

6.8607

48.6424

60.80%

10

Don

19

A

Limited

80

10

10.32

6.7829

48.0908

60.11%

11

KW

3

C

Limited

80

0

11.88

6.7340

47.7441

59.68%

12

Tim

11

U

Limited

79

0

12.09

6.5343

46.3282

57.91%

13

Bill

14

C

Limited

79

0

12.39

6.3761

45.2065

56.51%

R14

Roger

21

C

Production

80

0

12.61

6.3442

44.9804

56.23%

15

Kevin

7

B

Limited

74

10

10.66

6.0038

42.5669

53.21%

16

Barron Barnett

1

D

Limited

79

0

13.48

5.8605

41.5509

51.94%

17

Erik

15

C

Single Stack

79

0

15.24

5.1837

36.7524

45.94%

18

Kami

10

U

Limited

80

0

16.48

4.8544

34.4177

43.02%

19

Roger

18

C

Revolver

80

0

18.16

4.4053

31.2336

39.04%

20

Ben

2

U

Limited

68

20

12.71

3.7766

26.7761

33.47%

21

Jodi

6

D

Limited

75

20

15.83

3.4744

24.6335

30.79%

22

Donald

16

U

Limited 10

80

0

50.31

1.5901

11.2738

14.09%

The bottom line is that a bunch of beer guzzling, uneducated hillbillies fired 352 shots hitting no-shoot (innocent bystanders) targets twice and had three misses. This compares to NYPD firing16 shots with nine innocent people injured and six or more misses.

There is at least one important difference. The police were facing a guy pointing a .45 at them. We were not.

Quote of the day—Friedrich Nietzsche

Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.

Friedrich Nietzsche
[After dinner last night at the Gun Blogger Rendezvous several of us stayed up late talking. One of the topics was the inability of the anti-gun people to think logically. In many cases they claim to simple “know” the truth. Nietzsche was a pretty sharp guy.

See also this quote from Nietzsche.—Joe]

LAPD qualification results

I got the USPSA match results back for the modified LAPD qualification stages I designed. In order to conform with USPSA rules we actually made the courses much harder than what the police officers have to do. We always started from the holster. In most of the strings the police started from the low ready position. In one string the police start with the gun pointed at the target and their finger on their trigger. Even starting from the holster the allocated three seconds was more than enough for us draw from the holster and make the same shot the police make.

We put 22 people through the stages. 20 people passed with a 60% or greater. That is 90.9% passage. The best results were by Roger who scored 95.1%. Roger was shooting a revolver.

GBR range report

Today was the first range day for the Gun Blogger Rendezvous. I pretty much ignored everyone at the range today. I had a rifle that I needed to zero and test and Barron and I did little else.

At 200 yards I was disappointed:

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My Spud Gun will yield a group about one third this size at this range.

I zeroed it and put the results in my ballistics app for my phone (still under development, not yet available).

The wind was a bit of a problem but the elevation was good on the steel at 350, 435, 500, 600, and 700 yards. We could hit without much difficulty so we moved out to the 957 yard targets.

We first started shooting at the barrel. It seemed that we were hitting all around it. I finally moved to the plate. It was smaller but I wanted a hard target. CLANG! First shot hit. The next shot was a miss, then two more hits. Barron then took a few shots at the plate. He did well too.

We concluded that we were poking holes in the barrel and seeing the dust kick up behind the it. We probably had a lot of hits on the barrel but just couldn’t be sure.

Still, getting three out of four hits on the plate with this gun was confirmation it is a good enough for most social occasions.

The long range results are similar to my previous attempts at the same target.

Winning

From Cabela’s lobby:

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I found this on the inside bottom of the box of shoes I bought:

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From the gun email list at work (via Jeremy):

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Quote of the day—Windy Wilson

Imagine the uproar if a politician announced that after consulting with the BATF and VPC, the proposed solution to the increase in rapes of women in the city was to have a curfew on women, and mandatory photo registration of every married male resident of the city!

Windy Wilson
September 7, 2012
Comment to No brainer.

People who actually DO things

I installed an Aimpoint sight on a 500 S&W pistol for a guy today.  He lives in North Idaho and has been hunting here and elsewhere for 30 years.  He’d been in and out of our shop, trying to figure out how to make the little Micro sight stay put on his 500 bore, G-force production factory, so we’ve gotten acquainted.


Today he brought in one of his many hunting photo albums.  He keeps records of each harvest; date, details of the animal, distance, and so on. 


One of his kills was of a circa 2,000 lb Bison bull he got in South Dakota using a traditional muzzleloading rifle.  He used a 200 grain XTP 45 caliber handgun bullet in a 50 caliber sabot.  Muzzle velocity; ~2000 fps. (he could state his velocity extreme spread off the top of his head).  He knows his rifles and his trajectories from years of practical use.  That bull was shot from 150 yards.  I ran the numbers in Modern Ballistics, and the impact velocity would have been around 1280.  The jacketed hollowpoint bullet struck inside the front shoulder (so as to avoid the heavy shoulder joint, he said) in a quartering-toward shot, penetrated the heavy hide, busted a heavy rib, penetrated both lungs, the diaphram, and stopped in the spleen.  The bull walked a few yards, laid down and never got up, shot with what amounted to (energy-wise) a 45 magnum handgun.


Some (most)(no; virtually all) would say that his choice of round was drastically too fragile and drastically under-powered, taking a shot at the “practical” range limit of the firearm, but he’d worked with this system for years and knew it’s capabilities and limitations from experience.  Do not try this at home.


Anyway; it’s fun to talk with people who actually do things.


By the way; Installing the Micro sight on a 500 Smith requires the “permanent” red (as opposed to the “high strength” red) thread locker.  I had to special order it as no one in town knew it existed.  According to the tech I spoke with at Aimpoint, you also need to crank the cross-bolt down far beyond the 180-after-contact spec in the instructions, if’n you’re mounting it on the 500 hand cannon.  This time we used a ratchet wrench.  He’ll try it out tomorrow after the required 24 hour cure time and we’ll see if it worked.  I wish they’d go with a square cross bolt for high recoil applications, but in nearly all other applications it matters not a bit, one way or the other.

It’s time to move on

Sometimes it takes a while for you to figure it out. Sometimes it’s easier to not “rock the boat” and just stay with what you have because of fear of the unknown. But there are times when it’s obvious you need to dump them, heal as best as you can and move on. As the woman in the video below point out after four years it’s now obvious what needs to be done.

What he said

Barron reported on our taking delivery of the Ammonium Nitrate for Boomershoot 2013 and our trip to Reno for the Gun Blogger Rendezvous yesterday.

No brainer

It always annoys me that the most stupid and most ignorant are frequently the most vocal. Case in point:

It seems that gun control should be a no-brainer. Our city and other communities across this country have recently seen the tragic results of the misuse of guns by ordinary citizens, including by young teens.

When I was a growing up in Baltimore people felt safe. We went out alone at night; I often went to the library alone after dark at age 10. We never heard about shootings. They seemed to be only in cowboy movies.

The availability of guns to any two-legged creature who could talk changed all that. It’s true that human beings can get very angry, perhaps even angry enough to kill. But if guns weren’t so readily available that anger might be expressed in less lethal ways.

I doubt that the Founding Fathers meant for anyone to lawfully carry a gun.

The “availability of guns” has not gotten easier in Baltimore anytime in the last 100 years so I can’t imagine when Jeannette Ollodart Marx grew up and guns were less available than they are now. I have to believe she is ignorant and/or stupid. This conclusions has further support with her speculation about the Founding Fathers not intending for nearly everyone to be able to lawfully carry a firearm.

It would seem that if she is sufficiently self-aware Ms. Marx should be intimately familiar with no-brainers.

Quote of the day—Gay Cynic

One of my personal rules is to never piss off a drag queen.

Gay Cynic
September 6, 2012
[You hear the most interesting things when attending the Gun Blogger Rendezvous. The story that followed was worthwhile but I’m not interested enough to type it all in. You can find the basics of it here.—Joe]

Overheard in reality

Phone salesman; “How soon do you need it?  Right now, I suppose.”


Me; “Yeah, I have the thing apart, and the customer standing right here, waiting…


continued in my head…


… How much to get it here yesterday?”


Phone salesman; “All the money in the world, times infinity”


Me; “OK.  Do you take installment payments?”

Sunrise at Boomershoot Mecca

Barron and I are awake and waiting for the Ammonium Nitrate to arrive. Then it’s off to Reno.

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I see the semi-truck coming now.

Quote of the day—Evan Thomas

I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above- above the world, he’s sort of God.

Evan Thomas
July 2009
From What Liberals Say.
[And how is that god working out for you now?—Joe]

The view

It has been suggested (by Barron and Janelle) that I change the name of this blog from “The View From North Central Idaho” to “The View From The Clock Tower”.

While I got a chuckle out of this it is just a bit too over the top for me.

Besides, in addition to being afraid of heights should things go sufficiently “pear shaped” that a clock tower view might be of interest I think I would prefer a view from a R/C vehicle (air, land, or water) loaded with Boomerite.

Itinerary

This morning marks the beginning of a very busy schedule for me.

Today I “work from home” (actually I’m at Barron and Janelle’s home in Colton Washington). Tonight Barron, Janelle, and I go to Lewiston Idaho to have dinner with daughter Kimberly and Jacob. Then Barron and I go to Boomershoot Mecca to spend the night camping out under the stars and the trees. 3000 pounds of Ammonium Nitrate will be delivered at 0700 tomorrow. Barron and I then take off for Reno and Gun Blogger Rendezvous. Gun Blogger Rendezvous means sleep is optional until Saturday night when we will have to get a little shut eye before we drive back to the Seattle area.

Will we be seeing you at the Rendezvous?

Quote of the day—Mike Lillis

The Democrats’ approach to gun control is far too timid and needs a boost of courage to be effective.

Mike Lillis
September 2, 2012
Dem platform calls for gun control, but advocates pan language as timid
[H/T Say Uncle.

Bring it on.

Apparently Lillis doesn’t realize it we have been engaged in a fifth generation war against anti-gun people for over 40 years and we won. We are in the middle of mopping up spots of resistance. It’s helpful when they self identify so we can target them for political extinction.—Joe]

Sailing with Kim and Jacob

Last weekend daughter Kim and Jacob came to visit so as something new my friend Maggie (and here and here) took us sailing. We brought along Audrey, the former Navy EOD expert. It was a fantastically beautiful day. The wind could have been a little better but we had a nice time. Again four out of five of us were carrying.

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Quote of the day-Schwann Caomhanach‏

There are many more rights under far more pressure than any gun rights, yet you focus on these phallic symbols.

Schwann Caomhanach‏
Tweeted August 26, 2012.
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!—Joe]

Happy Commie Day

Today is a national holiday celebrating the European, and very un-American, idea of the Balkanization of society into classes, and specifically celebrating the “labor class”.  I won’t bother trying to unpack all the layers upon layers, and the sub layers upon sub layers of false assumption behind it.  Instead I make the very American assertion that every one of us, regardless of circumstance, is an autonomous entrepreneur.


We aren’t born into classes or groups.  We are born, or immigrate, into the American Experiment.  We may decide to sell our “labor” (and in this case I use the word as a practical noun or a verb as opposed to a classification) to someone else as a part of our life plan, or we may decide to go more or less directly into our own businesses, but neither choice is one that is foisted on us by society.


Actually; whether you are selling your labor to someone else’s business, whether you’re selling products or services under your own personal business banner, or whether you serve on the board of directors for a large corporation, you are in fact your own business.  If your name is Billy Bob and you shovel manure for a dairy farmer, you should think of yourself as Billy Bob’s shoveling service.  You are your own boss (to the extent anyone is his own boss, which is small).  Anyone serving as his own boss needs customers (they’re the real bosses don’t you know – they control the money you’re looking to get) and in this case your customer is that farmer.  You serve your customer and in return you get paid.  That’s a business you’re in, whether you understand it or not.  You’re an entrepreneur.  Get your head straight and make the best of it.


“Labor” in the communist sense is something altogether different.  In that case, as a laborer you are in a group pitted against the other classes in a political struggle for resources and perks.  Your class or group is in direct competition with all others, for a piece of the confiscated booty.  It’s gang against gang.  Your gang is the only one that counts and all other gangs are your enemies.  The pinnacle of success for your gang is when you take over full control of the government.


In the American model on the other hand, you are an autonomous operator– a business consisting of one individual.  You compete for the favor of potential customers in a system of property rights protection.  Your only method of success then is to do a better job in serving your customers.  Lobbying, or the brute strength of gangs (or labor unions) then has little or no place, because there is no power in government to lend favor to your business at the expense of others.  Government has no rights to itself – only the responsibility to protect every individual’s property rights.  Cooperation in the form of combined resources (the corporation model) does have a place, because the economy of scale (usually but not always) allows a larger business to produce better goods or services at lower prices.  It is the height of a polite and just civilization.


Too bad the American system has been corrupted by the Progressive communist movement into something ugly.  They make it ugly by getting government’s coercive power involved in it, then use that ugliness to tell us that “capitalism” doesn’t work.  Lying scum.


I’ll call this Lying Scum Day then.  Have a happy one, suckers.