Quote of the day–Dar Korra’ti

anti-gun lobbyists think that anyone, at any time, can turn into a raving lunatic and, if armed, start effectively killing people. laura is an example, having said something pretty much to this effect in this folder at one time or other. under this operating idea, firearms bans would be a pretty good idea. they also tend to think that collections of people act more rationally than individuals, and that therefore, governments which represent collections of people (rather than, say, parasitic elites) are not to be taken as concerns.

pro-gun lobbyists think that most people will not turn into raving lunatics, under pretty much any circumstances; those that do are the fairly rare exceptions that the rest of us sane folk need to be able to protect ourselves against. under this paradeigm, firearms bans make no sense whatsoever, as the lunatics and criminals won’t care about them anyway. they also tend to think that collections of people are more likely to get Real Bad Ideas than individuals (the mob effect, or as put in Men in Black, “A person is smart. People are weird, panicky and stupid.”) and have more power to exercise those Real Bad Ideas. Therefore, power groups (such as governments) are to be monitored carefully and not allowed to accumulate too much power.

both, fundamentally, have fear issues. the question is, whose fears ring true with you?

Dar Korra’ti
Friday, August 14, 1998 11:23 AM
Right vs Left Discussion (Microsoft public folder)

Quote of the day–Greg Hamilton

 

Verbally confronting a guy who is already shooting people is generally a bad idea. Add to that he has a rifle and it becomes a worse idea.

Since we began teaching response to active shooter (over 10 years ago), we’ve taught shoot first, shoot last, talk later.

Greg Hamilton
Self defense instructor
Tue 11/22/2005 6:34 PM
Insights Training Email Group
Commenting on a report that an armed citizen drew his gun but did not shoot when confronted with an active shooter in a shopping mall.

 

Quote of the day–Frank Rizzo

The streets are safe in Philadelphia, it’s only the people who make them unsafe.

Philadelphia Mayor, Frank Rizzo
[My guess is that neither truer, nor more stupid, words have ever been spoken.  The solutions to the problem Rizzo outlines are many but only a few are acceptable.  Philadelphia has had a problem getting it right for many decades.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Edward Rex

Cause public proclamation to be made, that everyone strong in body at leisure time on holidays use in his recreation the bow and arrow and learn and exercise the art of shooting – forbidding all and singular on our behalf that they do not after any manner apply themselves to the throwing of stones, wood, iron, handball, football, bandyball, cambuck, or cock fighting; nor to other such like vain plays which have no profit in them, under pain of imprisonment.

Edward Rex
Westminster
12th day of June 1369
[From mandated use of arms as recreation to arms being banned for any private use.  I wonder when the average individual was safer in the U.K.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Ward Dorrity

If you had to choose between saving The Lying Bastard of Pennsylvania Avenue from drowning in a vat of steaming bubbling pig shit and taking a Pulitzer Prize winning photograph…

 …what f-stop would you use?

Inquiring minds want to know

Ward Dorrity
Friday, December 04, 1998 2:49 PM
SOC Constitutional Infringement Issues
Microsoft Public Folder
[Check the date.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Greg Hamilton

A attorney who in specializes in self-defense told me that of the 300 clients who said something to the police before talking to him, only two managed to NOT hurt their case.  Those two didn’t help their case, they just didn’t hurt it any.  If you are involved in a shooting, call the police, physically cooperate with them, but don’t say anything except you want to call your attorney.

Greg Hamilton
Self Defense Instructor
Nov. 19, 1995

Quote of the day–George H. Smith

… we may indicate three minimum requirements that must be fulfilled before any belief can claim the status of knowledge: (a) a belief must be based on evidence; (b) a belief must be internally consistent (i.e. not self-contradictory); (c) a belief cannot contradict previously validated knowledge with which it is to be integrated.  If a belief fails to meet any or all of these criteria, it cannot properly be designated as knowledge.

George H. Smith
From: Atheism: the Case Against God
[Gun control advocates, socialists, and other anti-freedom advocates would do well to understand the difference between belief and knowledge as outlined by Smith above.–Joe]

Quote of the day–James Burnham

The economic egalitarianism of the liberal ideology implies … the reduction of Westerners to hunger and poverty.

James Burnham
Suicide of the West
1964

Quote of the day–Aristophanes

You have all the characteristics of a popular politician: a horrible voice, bad breeding, and a vulgar manner.

Aristophanes
[When reading this I immediately thought of the two Senators from New York.–Joe]

Quote of the day–King Abdullah of Jordan

To walk into the lobby of a hotel, to see a wedding procession and to take your spouse with you into that wedding and blow yourself up — these people are insane.

King Abdullah of Jordan
November 13, 2005
From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-1871428_1,00.html
[Or they are showing their dedication–their willingness to die for their cause.  This atrocity reminds me there is some symmetry in this conflict.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Aristotle

Neglect of an effective birth control policy is a never failing source of poverty which, in turn, is the parent of revolution and crime.

Aristotle
[This topic was brought up yesterday by someone I was talking to.  More details on the proposed solution later.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Dave Smead

All the advances that mankind has made over his environment have been done using a formal system whereby man has hypothesized, “If I observe A then I can conclude B” and thereafter presenting the hypothesis and the formal system to the scrutiny of others.

Dave Smead
[I include political environment in this line of thought.  Anti-freedom bigots apparently use some other failed system.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Vaclav Havel

People who falsify history don’t rescue freedom, they jeopardize it.

Vaclav Havel
President of Czechoslovakia
[In similar words, President Bush in a speech yesterday said, While it’s perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began. — Joe]

Quote of the day–Jean Baptiste Colbert

The art of taxation consists of plucking the goose so you get the largest amount of feathers with the smallest amount of hissing.

Jean Baptiste Colbert
[Thinking of the election in Washington state on Tuesday. — Joe]

Quote of the day–Charles Waddell Chesnutt

As a man, sows, so shall he reap. In works of fiction, such men are sometimes converted. More often, in real life, they do not change their natures until they are converted into dust. One does well to distrust a tamed tiger.

Charles Waddell Chesnutt
The Marrow of Tradition
1901
[I keep thinking of Hillary Clinton when I read this.–Joe]

Quote of the day–Chris Daly

San Francisco voters are smart and believe in sensible gun control.

Chris Daly
San Fransisco Supervisor
On Proposition H which passed 58% to 42% and makes it illegal to possess, buy, sell, distribute and manufacture firearms and ammunition in the city.
November 9, 2005
From SFGate.com
[Now you know what they mean when they talk about “sensible gun control.”  — Joe]

Quote of the day–Su Tung-p’o

Families, when a child is born
Want it to be intelligent.
I, through intelligence,
Having wrecked my whole life,
Only hope the baby will prove
Ignorant and stupid.
Then he will crown a tranquil life
By becoming a Cabinet Minister

Su Tung-p’o
[I’m thinking of people like the “minister for social cohesion” in France as a prime example but nearly any would do.]

Quote of the day–The Gun Guy

It says something, I think, that Muslims are trying to do what the Nazis refused to.

The Gun Guy
Regarding the current unpleasantness in France–after a short history lesson on the Nazi occupation of and withdrawal from Paris.

Quote of the day–Sean Flynn

What typically gets lost, and lost deliberately, is the meaning of the word ‘compromise’. In a compromise, both sides gain or lose bargaining points in a mutually acceptable, if not optimal fashion.  In the gun control debate, the meaning of compromise is twisted to, “Okay, we’ll only take half your guns, this time.” The pro-RKBA folks are never even offered anything in return. This is a variation of the slippery slope that I call “Zeno’s Paradox of Lost Rights”. As with the paradox of motion, the remaining scope of the Second Amendment is progressively halved, and halved again. The illusion is that we never lose the right, because there is always the remaining half. The Theory of Limits suggests otherwise.
    
Sean Flynn
6/15/98

Quote of the day–Benjamin Franklin

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power.

Benjamin Franklin