Waiting for door-to-door confiscation

I helped Ry with a car problem tonight and he asked me if I had read the Oleg Volk’s post about waiting for door-to-door confiscation of firearms. I hadn’t. He gave me a version that was slightly mangled and said Oleg said it much better. Then in his post about it Ry pointed out the picture for the posting is an UltiMAK equipped rifle.

A portion of Oleg’s advice, “Train new shooters” and “Educate fence-sitters”, is a significant portion of the motivation for Boomershoot.

So what have you done to prevent door-to-door confiscations recently?

Quote of the day–Thomas Jefferson

A bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth, general or particular, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.

Thomas Jefferson
Letter to James Madison
Dec. 20, 1787
[It’s as true today as it was 219 years ago. And keep in mind that the bill of rights is a list of things the government must not do. It is not a list of what it should or must do. There is no “right” to health care, education, or employment. There is a right to due process, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search and seziure, and the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.–Joe]

Making and publishing lists of gun owners

I’m far from the first on this topic but no one I have read has pointed out what comes immediately to mind when I see this sort of thing:

That said, I understand that this will not be well-received everywhere. Some folks complained loudly in the past when, as a matter of routine, this newspaper published the names of those granted permits in Minnehaha County – and likely they will complain loudly now, arguing that it is none of our business whether they have a license to carry a gun.

Some will invoke the Second Amendment, which only protects their right to have guns.

Wrong. The Constitution does not give people the right to own guns. It guarantees that preexisting right will not be infringed (see An Individual Right and search for Cruikshank).

People also have the right to marry someone of a different race–even if it isn’t guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Should those people be registered? Does the public have the right to know who is in an interracial marriage?

The registration and publication of gun owners and their guns only serves one purpose and that is harassment and discrimination. Bigotry is an ugly thing no matter who is practicing it.

Update: My exact same comments also apply to this article.

Honeymoons and Just One Question

One of my favorite Boomershoot stories is that Paul and Tammy celebrated their honeymoon by attending Boomershoot 2001. As popular as Boomershoot is it just doesn’t draw that many honeymooners. But as rare as that is I suspect that a Honeymoon in Iraq is even more rare. In addition to the admiration I have for them performing dangerous work to help secure world peace and stability I’m honored for Chris to claim he reads my blog almost every day and he made a very favorable post about my Just One Question.

Thank you Chris and Desert Lizard. Please make it back safely.

Quote of the day–Mohandas K. Gandhi

I have nothing new to teach the world. Truth and Non-violence are as old as the hills.  All I have done is to try experiments in both on as vast a scale as I could.

Mohandas K. Gandhi
(1869-1948), Indian political and spiritual leader.
Harijan (28 March 1936).
[This is something for gun owners anxious to “push the reset button” to remember. We have truth on our side and for now we have non-violence. Once the non-violence threshold has been breached many of the terrible things they say about us will become true. That is to not to say there isn’t a valid time and place to use violence. It’s just that we must be very careful to have sufficient moral justification for using violence.–Joe]

Constantly choosing the wrong metric

The anti-gun bigots are at it again. They are claiming victory when they fudge the numbers:

Gun-control measures that Australia adopted after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre have eliminated mass killings and halved the number of suicides and deaths from firearms, according to a new study.

There have been no mass killings since the passage of the first measure just after the massacre, researchers led by Simon Chapman at the School of Public Health at the University of Sydney said in the study, published in the December issue of Injury Prevention. In contrast, there were 13 such killings in the 18 years prior. The study covered 1979 to 2003.

“Removing large numbers of rapid-firing firearms from civilians may be an effective way of reducing mass shootings, firearm homicides and firearm suicides,” the authors said.

The laws also doubled the pace at which firearm deaths were declining, they said. Gun deaths had been falling by 3 percent a year, and the rate rose to 6 percent after the new rules, the study found. The average number of people killed each month dropped to 332.6 from 627.7, it said. Suicides make up about four out of five firearms deaths; the remainder are either homicides or unintentional deaths.

And what’s your point? Why should anyone care? This totally ignores the possibility of any benefit that might have resulted from people being allowed to own those firearms that were taken from them. The total murder rate and the total violent crime rate are what is important. A reduction in the number of crimes committed with firearms is, by itself, meaningless. You could reduce the number of murders committed with baseball bats by banning the sport and the bats but it’s not going to reduce the total murder rate.

They can’t win being honest with the numbers so they have to cheat. But what can you expect from people that have mental problems?

This is what happens in places without guns–Case XIX

From the U.K. where, if the government hadn’t implemented a Criminal Occupational Safety Act, an “equalizer” from Samuel Colt, John Moses Browning, or Smith & Wesson would make this sort of thing too hazardous of a hobby to partake in this frequently in the same small geographical area and small population:

There are growing concerns tonight that police are drawing a blank in the hunt for the Suffolk Strangler.

Officers from the Suffolk force – one of the smallest in the country – have been “overwhelmed” by the discovery of five bodies in 10 days.

One source said: “Even a larger force would have a problem resourcing at this stage. It is six weeks since the first prostitute went missing – and police admit it is a race against time before the killer strikes again.”

Detective Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull, who is leading the manhunt, went on television to say the serial killer is “out of control”. He has murdered five women in six weeks, an unprecedented rate in British criminal history.

Some of the prostitutes in Ipswich’s red-light area have given police names of their customers and detectives are trying to compile a complete list.

The numbers of sex workers in the area is said to be about 40, but the hardcore is about 15 – five of whom are now dead.

An individual right

I didn’t realize it but while I was making fun of Say Uncle he was doing battle against the forces of evil (well… the collectivists anyway which are evil in my book) that took issue to some things I said here. He and I were both called on for dismissing the possibility the 2nd Amendment refers to a collective right. Although I’m sure he is right to say I have covered it in adequate detail it hasn’t been done as the primary focus of a blog posting with all the attention that would entail. I remedy that now in an attempt at forgiveness for not jumping to his side earlier in his battle against the collectivists.

One of the arguments made was that “better minds” had concluded the 2nd Amendment referred to a collective right. Argument by authority is not entirely trustworthy yet it certainly can provide a good starting point. To that end I quote some authorities on constitutional law:

Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it’s not an individual right or that it’s too much of safety hazard don’t see the danger of the big picture.  They’re courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don’t like.

Alan Dershowitz
Quoted in Dan Gifford
The Conceptual Foundations of Anglo-American Jurisprudence in Religion and Reason
62 TENN. L. REV. 759 (1995)

And from perhaps an even greater authority:

Perhaps the most accurate conclusion one can reach with any confidence is that the core meaning of the Second Amendment is a populist / republican / federalism one:  Its central object is to arm ‘We the People’ so that ordinary citizens can participate in the collective defense of their community and their state.  But it does so not through directly protecting a right on the part of states or other collectivities, assertable by them against the federal government, to arm the populace as they see fit.  Rather the amendment achieves its central purpose by assuring that the federal government may not disarm individual citizens without some unusually strong justification consistent with the authority of the states to organize their own militias.  That assurance in turn is provided through recognizing a right (admittedly of uncertain scope) on the part of individuals to possess and use firearms in the defense of themselves and their homes — not a right to hunt for game, quite clearly, and certainly not a right to employ firearms to commit aggressive acts against other persons — a right that directly limits action by Congress or by the Executive Branch and may well, in addition, be among the privileges or immunities of United States citizens protected by the Fourteenth Amendment against state or local government action.

Laurence Tribe
American Constitutional Law 902 n. 221 (2000)

[Update July 2008:]

From the highest authority–the Supreme Court of the United States in D.C. v. Heller:

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

All nine justices agreed that it is an individual right. It is not a “collective right”.

[End update.]

A lesser authority:

…we conclude that the Second Amendment secures an individual right to keep and to bear arms. Current case law leaves open and unsettled the question of whose right is secured by the Amendment. Although we do not address the scope of the right, our examination of the original meaning of the Amendment provides extensive reasons to conclude that the Second Amendment secures an individual right, and no persuasive basis for either the collective-right or quasi-collective-right views. The text of the Amendment’s operative clause, setting out a “right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” is clear and is reinforced by the Constitution’s structure. The Amendment’s prefatory clause, properly understood, is fully consistent with this interpretation. The broader history of the Anglo-American right of individuals to have and use arms, from England’s Revolution of 1688-1689 to the ratification of the Second Amendment a hundred years later, leads to the same conclusion. Finally, the first hundred years of interpretations of the Amendment, and especially the commentaries and case law in the pre-Civil War period closest to the Amendment’s ratification, confirm what the text and history of the Second Amendment require.

U.S. Department of Justice

Keep in mind when reading the following that states and other government bodies are created and given powers by their constitutions. Hence if the object of the 2nd Amendment right were the states then the following makes no sense to say it does not depend on the Constitution for it’s existence.

The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress.

Chief Justice Morrison Waite
U.S. Supreme Court
U S v Cruikshank
92 U.S. 542 (1875)

But as I said argument by authority is not entirely to be trusted so lets apply some other tests.

  • Does it make sense for the 2nd Amendment to refer to a collective/states right when nearly all of the states that have a right to keep and bear arms clause make it clear they refer to it as in individual right? See for example the Washington State Constitution: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this Section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.”
  • Does it make sense for the 1st Amendment to refer to a collective/state right when it refers to “the people” in, “…the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”? If not then why should it in reference to the 2nd Amendment?
  • Does it make sense for the 4th Amendment to refer to a collective/state right when it refers to “the people” in, “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures…”? If not then why should it in reference to the 2nd Amendment?
  • Does it make sense for the 10th Amendment to refer to a collective/state right when it refers to “the people” in, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”? If not then why should it in reference to the 2nd Amendment?

The writers and debaters of the Bill of Rights did not chose their words carelessly. Not only did they know it was a very important document it was reviewed, scrutinized, rewritten, and argued over in very fine detail. When they meant “the States” they said “the States”. One would be very hard pressed to make the case they meant “the States” in the 2nd Amendment when it’s obvious they meant for “the people” to mean individuals in all other cases.

So how did this “collective right” hypothesis come about? Joyce Malcolm has what I believe to be the best view on that. The short version is as follows:

Early in the twentieth century when American whites, fearful of blacks in the South and the millions of foreign immigrants in the North, wanted to restrict access to firearms, alternative readings of the amendment gained credence. In the absence of serious scholarship, constructions that reduced or eliminated the individual right to be armed seemed plausible, especially in light of the awkward construction of the Second Amendment and the sparse congressional debates during its drafting, both of which relied upon common understandings of the value of a society of armed individuals that had faded over time. These new interpretations emphasized the dependent clause referring to the militia, to the neglect of the main clause’s guarantee to the people. The theory developed that the Second Amendment was merely intended to enhance state control over state militia; that it embodied a “collective right” for members of a “well-regulated” militia–today’s National Guard–to be armed, not a personal right for members of a militia of the whole people, let alone for any individual. Even when an individual right was conceded, the amendment was proclaimed a useless anachronism.

The case upon which all other cases that have found the 2nd Amendment does not protect an individual right is United States v. Miller 59 S.Ct. 816(1939). But this ruling is misunderstood. Here is the critical portion:

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.

This was interpreted by other courts to mean that unless the individual had some reasonable relationship to “a well regulated militia” that the individual was not protected by the 2nd Amendment. But that’s not what the above passage says. It says the 2nd Amendment cannot be said to guarantee the right to keep and bear the instrument, the shotgun, or weapon. And this is because the 2nd Amendment only protects weapons that are part of ordinary military equipment or that could contribute to the common defense. Hence the military M-16 and AK-47s are protected by the 2nd Amendment but the 30-30 hunting rifle is not.

The above interpretation is not just my personal, non-lawyer, view. See also U.S. versus Emerson where the appeals courts said:

We conclude that Miller does not support the government’s collective rights or sophisticated collective rights approach to the Second Amendment.  Indeed, to the extent that Miller sheds light on the matter it cuts against the government’s position.

Hence I conclude that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right, not a collective right.

But I tend to avoid getting into all this because most people don’t care about the details of the law, the history, etc. They are concerned about safety and security. A piece of paper written by a bunch of dead white guys, many of whom owned slaves, doesn’t get any traction with them. For those people I have Just One Question.

[Update: June 2014]
Some courts are now regarding the First Amendment an analogue of the Second:

What this may mean is that if it is repugnant to the courts to treat the exercise of the First Amendment in some way then doing a similar thing to the exercise of the Second Amendment will also be regarded as unconstitutional.
[End update.]

Quote of the day–United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit

We conclude that Miller does not support the government’s collective rights or sophisticated collective rights approach to the Second Amendment.  Indeed, to the extent that Miller sheds light on the matter it cuts against the government’s position.

United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
United States of America versus Timothy Joe Emerson
October 16, 2001

Oppressive laws to bite the dust

The Ohio Senate overrode the anti-gun bigot Ohio Governor who vetoed a common sense gun law on concealed carry. It will be months or perhaps years before the cities and counties actually obey the law and stop persecuting people who choose to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed rights (the Ohio state Constitution is more clear than the Federal Constitution on the matter of the right to keep and bear arms). But it’s a downhill fight for a while.

See also:

Something I noticed in the articles is that they were all very factual. No “blood in the streets” rhetoric. Just this from the bigot Toby Hoover who has been in the news for years wailing about how dangerous people are if they exercise their rights:

The Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, which opposes concealed carry, accused lawmakers of giving in to the powerful and politically generous National Rifle Association.

“The passage of HB 347 and the override of Gov. Taft’s veto is an appalling arrogance against the will of and respect for the people of Ohio to govern themselves,” executive director Toby Hoover said in a statement.

It’s an emotional appeal but it is not the usual stuff said about gun owners being a threat to humanity. Very nice.

Congratulations to the people of Ohio that have been working on this for many years. Take a week off to celebrate then get back to work. There is still lots to be done.

Rights cannot be denied only infringed

Whenever someone says something to the effect that the Bill of Rights grants something or another or the Constitution gives the average person something I have a strong urge to swat them alongside the head. The Constitution only gives the government certain enumerated powers. I correct people that make such mistakes and will not converse further with them on the topic of politics until they acknowledge the truth of that. Once they verify the correctness of my remembrance of the wording of the BOR and the Constitution we can then have a meaningful discussion even if we disagree on a few particulars.

This means, as it was stated in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 551 (1876), “This is not a right granted by the Constitution.  Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.  The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed;…”

I’m reminded of this because people in the UK are exercising their rights to keep and bear arms even though it has been severely infringed. Thanks to The War on Guns for pointing this out:

A widow who lives alone in a Wiltshire farmhouse has taken to sleeping with a Smith & Wesson Saturday Night Special under her pillow. It belonged to her husband and is more than capable of stopping an intruder, of which she has had three in the last two years.

When she goes shopping in Swindon, she slips a can of Mace into her handbag in case of assault. “Bought it at the ironmongers in Bergerac,” she says. “Much more effective than an Asbo.”

A senior civil servant, now retired and living in a remote house near Losthwithiel in Cornwall, believes in the efficacy of a small-calibre .22 pistol. It was easy to buy without a licence or proof of identity in rural France, where they are used to kill vermin.

…increasingly they are brought back from Europe by car.

HM Revenue and Customs figures confirm this, showing an increase in weaponry seized at ports. For instance, 842 stun guns were intercepted by searches in 2005, an eight-fold increase year on year.

Most weapons seized are from respectable people worried about their security. Mace, pepper spray and metal-spring batons, illegal here, are easily and lawfully acquired in Europe, while high-calibre pistols can be bought in the Czech Republic.

Primer on Parker

I read the unofficial Parker transcript by K-Romulus Chronicles the other day but didn’t bother to link to it here because I didn’t want to take the time to explain any of the background and read between the lines for those “following along at home”. Trigger Finger has done that. Unless you are really on top of the 2nd Amendment issues in todays courts its a very worthwhile read.

Maybe he needs a cigarette

In October at the Gun Blogger Rendezvous Say Uncle was telling a few of us about his efforts to stop smoking. The part I remember most went something like this, “After three days I’m at the point where I can either smoke a cigarette or choke my wife. So I go outside and smoke a cigarette.” The next day he also told us he wasn’t able to tell jokes but that is a different story which I didn’t believe either.

Yesterday Uncle had this to say:

After reading the details of his grievances it sounds to me like he hasn’t smoked a cigarette for a couple weeks. Has anyone checked on his wife recently?

Quote of the day–Robert F. Williams

The stranglehold of oppression cannot be loosened by a plea to the oppressor’s conscience. Social change in something as fundamental as racist oppression involves violence. You cannot have progress here without violence and upheaval because it is a struggle for survival for one and a struggle for liberation for the other. Always the powers in command are ruthless and unmerciful in defending their position and their privileges. This is not an abstract rule to be mediated upon by Americans. This a truth that was revealed at the birth of America and has continued to be revealed many times in our history. The principle of self-defense is an American tradition that began at Lexington and Concord.

Robert F. Williams
Negros With Guns
Chapter 7–Self-Defense: An American Tradition
Copyright 1962

More shooting in the winter pictures

I updated the Lewiston Pistol Club website with results from the last Action Pistol (IPSC) match and threw in some pictures. Not only did the snow not slow us down but Adam shot with his knee all messed up from sword fighting a few days earlier. He had surgery on it a couple days after these pictures. Adam is the guy sitting on toolbox with his left leg out straight in the last picture.

The Lewiston Pistol Club Gospel

The following was from the Google discussion group “Lewiston Pistol” discussing the next steel match–which happens to be scheduled for Christmas Eve. Numerous people contributed. With the names removed to protect the guilty:

As the scripture sayeth: Where 2 or 3 are gathered there shooting is also.

(Gospel of St. John Moses Browning Chapter 9 Verse 45)

I shall gather at the range with thee and we shall make joyful noises of gunfire and shall celebrate the goodness that St. JM Browning hath bestowed upon us.

Those that doth present unto the Range Officer a Glock shall be cast out for these are an abomination unto the eyes of holy men.

Yay I say unto you that you are correct and I shall hopefully be there with bells on.

And for those for whom there is a great wailing heard in the house let he say unto her “Get thee back to the kitchen woman and know thy place for I am man and I am required to worship this day at the cathedral of St. Browning.” and unto the male spawn of thy loins say unto them “go forth and fetch thine own range bag and pistol for thou shalt come and worship in the cathedral with thine father and learn the ways of men” and unto the female spawn of thy loins say unto them “thou are not yet forsaken from the cathedral of St. Browning and thou canst join thy father therein and worship in the proper manner for the order of St. Browning needeth more members of the fairer sex. Fear thee not the perverts that thou hast seen thy father associating with for they are harmless if thou be not a sheep. The choice be thine own.”

And Lo! the not-so-wise men were guided to that place by a great column of smoke; bringing with them gifts of lead, Hoppes #9, and Dickel. There they did make a joyful noise unto Heaven and St. John Cooper looked down upon them and saw that it was good. For though the not-so-wise men be rebuked and cast out upon the sofa in their dwelling places for a fortnight they were were blessed for their righteousness and suffered not the high primer until the end of their days. But them that feareth the wrath of their females and shooteth not woe unto them! For plauges were visited upon them: of misfires and rounds which squibbeth, and their lubrication abideth not in the crevices of their slides.

Quote of the day–John Birch

For those of you who say the press is out to get us, I say NONSENSE. I have dealt with virtually every major news organization in the USA and certainly every credible media outlet in Illinois. I have always got a fair shake in the press. You just have to give the press a story. The anti-gunners are just plain better at doing that than gun owners. They bring heart rendering emotion to the debate, we bring facts and figures. One picture of a dead boy with a grieving mother beats a 1,000 John Lott’s.

John Birch
President Concealed Carry Inc.
December 5th, 2006
Concealed Carry, Inc. Closes Doors For Good
[The experience of Mr. Birch is consistent with mine–as long as you go to the press first. If they came to you after being alerted by the anti-gun bigots then you were at risk of being treated like Martin Luther King, Jr. at a Klan rally.–Joe]

Since I’m on picture posting kick

I found this quite appealing for some reason. Probably related to me liking sick humor. From Kim:

Something to point out to the non gunnies. The slide is locked back and there is no magazine. In this context this means the gun has been shot empty.

They’re wimps all wimps!

In the Seattle area they stop shooting action pistol matches in the wintertime. Here is the calender for the Snoqualmie Rifle Club. Notice that in October they have an Action Pistol match on the second Saturday but nothing on November or December. For the Northwest Section of the USPSA notice for December there are no matches at Custer, Kitsap, Marysville, or Renton.

Here in Idaho we have matches all year long. The first time I shot my STI at a match here it was -10F. I was careful to lubricate it for the weather and I had no problems. Some others were shooting as if they had single shots. The slide would come back and usually eject the shell casing but then it would creep forward so slow that it would stop when it tried to strip the next round off of the top of the magazine. They would have to manually assist their gun by slamming the slide forward with the heel of their hand after every shot.

Last week at the IPSC match it was fairly warm, in the upper 20’s, but there was snow on the ground. No big deal. We had one of our larger turn outs and since it was so warm…

Those Seattle area shooters are all WIMPS!

Quote of the day–Stephen P. Halbrook

While there is room for optimism, one presents a Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court with great risk. New rights are discovered with extra-legal phraseology like “liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions,” and explicit rights – to include core political speech – are swept away. The first case the Supreme Court takes on the merits of the individual-collective rights issue will be critical. This area of the law is no exception to the precept that the Court’s door should be knocked only with the utmost seriousness and preparation.

Stephen P. Halbrook
The Second Amendment in the Supreme Court: Where It’s Been and Where It’s Going
29 Hamline Law Review, No. 3, 449-59 (Summer 2006)