Quote of the day—TruthtoConservatives

They need a 30 round clip to get an erection. @sampuzzo @2enchantu @abynorml @mahvros27

TruthtoConservatives (@ToConservatives)
Tweeted on February 4, 2013
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

H/T to Janelle for the email.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

There can be no doubt after the Not Guilty verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman that murder has now been legalized in half of the 50 states.

The acquittal of George Zimmerman is confirmation that the American promise of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” will continue to be squandered until the NRA’s pernicious stranglehold on our legislatures is broken. Lawmakers in states with “Stand Your Ground” laws should immediately repeal these cancerous blights on American values, law and tradition.

Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
July 14, 2014
CSGV STATEMENT ON VERDICT IN ZIMMERMAN TRIAL
[It’s no wonder CSGV is irrelevant and fading away.

A jury found Zimmerman not guilty of both murder and the lesser charge of manslaughter. Yet CSGV, without the benefit of seeing all the evidence and testimony seen by the jury, is convinced he committed murder. A jury that took only 16.5 hours of deliberation to reach that conclusion. It was no surprise to nearly all the trial observers. The evidence clearly supported the conclusion that the shooting was in self-defense.

The wild claim of murder is the same as that by other anti gun people who claimed the Boston Marathon terrorist shooting at the police, and shortly thereafter shot by the police, was a “gun violence victim.” Apparently these people live in a world where everyone shot and killed are murder victims. The only thing that could make it more clear is if they declared Gary Gilmore a “gun violence victim.”*

Their world and reality only intersect to the extent that we can sometimes understand the words, but not the substance, of what they are trying to say.—Joe]


*Someone should ask Joan Peterson about this.

Quote of the day—mikee

It isn’t eternal vigilance the residents of Illinois need, it is eternally outraged aggressiveness against their own government.

mikee
July 11, 2013
Comment to Three Yards And A Cloud Of Dust…
[It isn’t just in Illinois that this is needed. And there are lots of things to be outraged about.

The judge that forced Illinois to allow people the “bear” part of “keep and bear” arms didn’t prohibit the state from requiring someone to get a permit to exercise a specific enumerated right. Reading a book, even the most dangerous ones such as The Communist Manifesto, doesn’t require a permit. Worshiping the god(s) of your choice doesn’t require you to register with the state. And you don’t have to get the local sheriff to sign off on you exercising your right to have a lawyer present when you are being questioned by the police. The BATFB (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Books) can’t declare book as failing to meet a “religious purpose” test and forbid it being imported as they can with a gun that doesn’t meet its “sporting purpose” test.

Gun owners are like a child so badly abused that they are grateful just to be given a few scraps of bread in a bowl of water. The abuse has been going on for so long and so extensive that it is difficult for us to imagine what a “normal life” would be like.

Talk to someone that has lived in an abusive relationship for decades and then got out. Even after a year they will still marvel some little thing they are so grateful for but is really a normal human interaction. While in the relationship they didn’t, and probably couldn’t realize, that was another instance of abuse in their relationship. And probably just as, if not more, important is that the abuser absolutely does not see it as abuse. No matter how many times they are told, no matter how much data is supplied the abuser will insist the victim deserves it and no abuse is actually occurring.

It’s easy for someone from Idaho to see the abuse in New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts. It’s much more difficult for the people being victimized to see it. And the legislators advocating even more abuse cannot imagine why the victims complain.

Just like an abusive parent or spouse whose actions result in the injury and death of those innocents under their control these abusive politicians, who infringe upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms which also results in the injury and death of the innocent, need to be arrested and given appropriate punishment.—Joe]

Gun cartoon of the day

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I have no idea what the cartoonist was thinking. This makes absolutely no sense what so ever to me.

The right to keep and bear arms is an explicitly enumerated right in the Bill of Rights on equal ground with the rights listed on the sign. “Union rights” are not explicit in the Constitution or BOR but some aspect of a union have implicit protection such as freedom of association. But how do gun rights threaten any aspect of the other rights or of someone wishing to be a member of a union?

My best guess is the cartoonist has crap for brains. Does anyone have a better idea?

Gun cartoon of the day

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It’s not just the Chicago gun ban that was defeated by the Constitution. The ban on public carry was defeated as well.

Stuff it Handgun Control Inc. (now calling themselves The Brady Campaign in public while retaining HCI for more private discussions).

Quote of the day—Alan Gottlieb

It is time for Illinois residents to join citizens in every other state. If Gov. Quinn and other gun prohibitionists need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century, where all civil rights – including the right to bear arms – are recognized, that’s their fault. They tried to transpose the Second Amendment from a fundamental civil right to a heavily-regulated privilege, and that is not what the court ruling allowed him to do.

We welcome Illinois to the United States of America.

Alan Gottlieb
July 9, 2013
SAF APPLAUDS ILLINOIS LAWMAKERS FOR OVERRIDE VOTE, COURT COMPLIANCE
[I’m not sure it’s really valid to say they have entered the U.S. It’s more like they are in quarantine. They still need to rid themselves of their gun control infections but they are making progress and I do welcome that.—Joe]

Gun cartoon of the day

Via Weerd.

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As Weerd points out this is a straw man argument.

I also wonder if there is some “Freudian slip” in regards to almost all the triggers looking more like fishhooks than a real trigger. The overweight gun owners is an almost universal stereotype (see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and of course the original classic first gun cartoon I clipped from a newspaper, and wrote the editor about, from the mid-1990’s).

It’s true that guns are successful conflict resolution tools. But the nature of the conflict for which they are appropriate and advertised for would be more along the lines of, “Home Invasion Deterrent”, “Personal Protection on the Street”, “Grizzly Bear Repellent”, and “Rodent Population Control”. Nothing on the entire set of NRA web sites or in any of their literature would even hint at any of the things this cartoons explicitly claims.

Our enemies cannot succeed on the basis of facts and things we claim. As one anti-gunner finally admitted, “You … are too strong for me. By that I mean a great compliment. Your knowledge of the subject is too great for me to compete with.” They must, by necessity, live in an alternate reality where they think we say things that we do not and then gleefully shoot down their imaginary foes.

Foolish liberals

Inspired by:

Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it’s not an individual right or that it’s too much of safety hazard don’t see the danger of the big picture.  They’re courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don’t like.

Alan Dershowitz
Quoted in Dan Gifford
The Conceptual Foundations of Anglo-American Jurisprudence in Religion and Reason
62 TENN. L. REV. 759 (1995)

We can elaborate by saying:

  • The number of people murdered by those attempting to implement communism is sufficient justification to ignore the 1st Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech for books such as “The Communist Manifesto”.
  • The number of people murdered by attempting to force their religion on others is sufficient justification to ignore the 1st Amendment guarantee of freedom of religion.
  • The number of people killed and injured in riots is sufficient justification to ignore the 1st Amendment guarantee of freedom of assembly.
  • The number of people who get away with their crimes because the police did not have probable cause to search them or their property is sufficient justification to ignore the 4th Amendment guarantee from freedom of unreasonable search and seizure.
  • The number of people who get away with their crimes because the police were not allowed to question them without a lawyer present or force them to testify against themselves is sufficient justification to ignore the 5th Amendment guarantees.
  • The illiteracy and incarceration rates of people of color is sufficient justification to ignore the 13th Amendment and implement slavery.
  • The inefficiency of the legislative process in “making progress” is sufficient justification to ignore the constitutionally mandated separation of powers and allow the President to rule via Executive Order or delegate congressional powers to government agencies.

Foolish people who legislate, make a case in public opinion, or create case law for the restriction or extermination of any of specific enumerated right enable the extermination of not just the Bill of Rights but the entire constitutional principle of government.

Quote of the day—Say Uncle

A day to celebrate freedom by going across state or county lines to buy fireworks because they’re illegal where you live.

Say Uncle
July 4, 2013
Happy Independence Day
[You shouldn’t really have to say more than that convince people that we are no longer free. You shouldn’t have to tell them the size of soft drinks in NYC is restricted. You shouldn’t have to explain Obama Care. You shouldn’t have to tell them about the New York SAFE act. You shouldn’t have to tell them our government is collecting data about every phone call and every letter mailed. You shouldn’t have to tell them that if you carry a cell phone the government can obtain your location with a few clicks on a website.You shouldn’t have to tell them the government says it has the legal authority and resolve to use unmanned drones to kill U.S. citizens on U.S. soil without trial or warning.

The scary thing is even if you tell people all of that they will do little more than shrug and turn back to finish watching the latest episode of American Idol, take another swig of beer, or another toke on their joint. They should be getting signatures for the recall petitions, spoofing encrypted email from government officials to overseas terrorists, and getting small arms training.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Bill

All you Bambi killers out there that want to tote around your rifles in your truck gun racks should grow up. Guns are for killing and killing for sport is immoral. If you have to hunt to eat fine buy a gun but if you aren’t native or Inuit or live in outer nowheresville stick to paying darts or bingo. Guns and the people that love them are dangerously stupid.

Bill
1:54 PM, June 27, 2013
Comment to Quebec court decision moves Ottawa closer to fully scrapping long-gun registry
[Every sentence of this rant could be the target of a blog post explaining in great detail why the commenter is either willfully ignorant or stupid himself. I don’t have the time or the interest to do that so I’ll just point out that it is good to know what he thinks of gun owners. He wants to control people and confine us to “playing darts or bingo” and he must dehumanize us to do that. He believes he is a “superior moral authority” and that should give him the authority to do with us as he commands with the government doing the dirty work of implementing his policies.

Mr. Bill should attempt to do his own dirty work.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Don B. Kates

Senator Schumer, America’s leading anti-gun legislator has just confessed that there are not enough votes to pass his universal background check bill. But what if there were? How futile is a proposal to have background check on all NEW guns sales for a nation which already has an estimated backlog of 319 million? Well, if  that were adopted today, and Senator Schumer lived to be 400 years old there would still be upwards of 300 million guns for which there were no background checks.

Don B. Kates
June 11, 2013
Futile, Stupid Gun Control Proposals
[Background checks are just a first step. Schumer and everyone of any intelligence on both sides of the gun control debate know this. And most everyone knows background checks are pointless. Registration and, ultimately, confiscation are the real goals.—Joe]

We defend our…

Via email from Joey D.

WithGuns

But of course it is irrational to expect people to be rational.

And for those that are unwilling or unable to behave rationally we defend our guns with guns.

Quote of the day—Lalo Alcaraz

How about a gun buyback program where instead of money, you get a penis enlargement? #NRA

Lalo Alcaraz (@laloalcaraz)
Tweeted on January 30, 2013

[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!—Joe]

Quote of the day—Dennis A. Henigan

If an ‘armed citizenry’ is a constitutionally protected ‘deterrent’ to abuse by federal officials, this would imply that the greatest protection should be given citizens who are arming themselves against the threat of such abuse.

Dennis A. Henigan
(Former) Vice president for law and policy at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence
January 28, 2008
DANCES WITH GUNS
[Yes. That is absolutely correct.

He also said he doesn’t argue that higher rates of gun ownership cause higher rates of crime.

Henigan “gets” it. He doesn’t like it, but he gets it.

Perhaps this is part of the reason he quit the gun control industry.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Ralph Fascitelli

The overwhelming research shows that buybacks generally don’t work well and are a waste of resources and are mocked by the NRA.

Ralph Fascitelli
Washington CeaseFire President
January 2013
McGinn’s office ignored leading gun control group in buyback effort
[There you have it. A gun control group admits what we have been saying for years. Gun “buybacks” are a waste. And “overwhelming research” supports this conclusion.

H/T to Ry.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Alan Gottlieb

The man is obsessed and if he’s spent so much as a dime of public money on what amounts to a private crusade, Mayor Bloomberg needs to be held accountable for that.

If Eric Schneiderman won’t investigate Bloomberg for possible misuse of public funds we will. The mayor has been acting increasingly like a self-appointed monarch, but this still the United States, not Bloomberg’s personal fiefdom.

Alan Gottlieb
June 26, 2013
SAF ASKS FOR ALL BLOOMBERG-MAIG RECORDS FROM NYC AFTER REVELATIONS
[Bloomberg is like some proslavery politician in the mid-1800’s obsessed with the “problem” that there are states that are free. He wants all states and cities to put “people in their place”.

Bloomberg needs to be put in his place and it if takes lawsuits, courts, and Federal Marshalls hauling him off to jail I’m just fine with that.—Joe]

Quote of the day–Robert J. Avrech

Liberty is too messy, too chaotic for the forces of the Democrat party. They yearn for conformity, for a uniform sameness that gives the illusion of a serenely content society. That’s why they want to get rid of cars and shove us all into railroad cars. Socialists just love cattle cars; they just relabel them high-speed rail.

That’s why Democrats want to get rid of the Second Amendment. An armed citizenry can resist an unjust government.

Robert J. Avrech
June 24, 2013
Climate Change = People Control
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Don B. Kates

If criminals and the irresponsible obeyed gun laws both gun crimes and accidental gun fatalities would virtually cease. Of course violent crime would continue with other weapons… In gun banning Russia criminals and suicides use other methods so successfully that both murder and suicide are four times higher than in the U.S.

Don B. Kates
May 23, 2013
“Easy Availability of Guns” – – Not!!!
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Random thought of the day

If an antigun person thinks that if someone is carrying a gun they must be “just looking for someone to shoot”, “looking for trouble”, “secretly want to be a cop”, or any other such nonsense then wouldn’t it be appropriate to ask them one or more of the following?

  • If you don’t carry a gun then you must be looking to be a carjacking/mugging/kidnap/rape/murder victim.
  • If you don’t carry a gun then you must believe violent crime cannot happen to you.
  • If you don’t carry a gun then you must secretly want to the police to rescue you.

Or, of course, they think their penis is so large and durable they can use it as a weapon.

Quote of the day—Black Chuck Todd