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Candles

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The Brady Campaign asked that we light a candle today in memory of the victims. But candles don’t stop violence. Guns in the hands of intended victims do.

I note with a great deal of pleasure that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords attended a candlelight vigil today and apparently did it without mentioning gun control and even the media did not mention the Brady Campaign. That must have really stung them!

My contribution to today will be in a different post when Barron gets the video (coming soon he says) up on YouTube.

Here are some of the candles that were lit in opposition to the Brady Campaign:


From Ryan.


From Maura.


From Wendy.


From North.


From Dan.

Barron and Janelle have a bunch of pictures as well.

Kevin has his up.

Say Uncle is a bit cynical but participates.

Robb uses a gun that was used defensively.

Linoge has quite the collection of links as well as his own pictures and his thoughts on the topic.

Roberta says, “The good guys don’t start fights – but they can end them“.

Tam gives lip service.

Brigid does more than a picture. She gives us history and tells a story.Thirdpower lights a candle for #toomanyvictims.

And credit for the idea goes to Weerd.

Quote of the day—Don Wood

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Candles don’t stop violence.

Don Wood
January 8, 2012
A response to the Brady Campaign on their candle lightings today.
[We incorporated a candle into the concealed carry side match at the USPSA match today.

I had suggested something like, “My name is and this is how I deal with people intent on deadly violence against innocent life.” Or, “The Brady Campaign wants us to light a candle today to help stop violence. But candles don’t stop violence but a handgun might.”

Don was the first shooter and he said, “I’m just going to say, ‘Candles don’t stop violence.'”

That was a great simplification Don. Thanks.

The final video should be up on YouTube soon. Barron was editing it as I drove back to the Seattle area this evening.—Joe]

Quote of the day—President Barack Obama

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We expect to have a full — a fully — or a comprehensive approach to dealing with these issues of border security that will involve supporting Calderón and his efforts in a partnership; also making sure that we are dealing with the flow of drug money and the guns south, because it’s really a two-way situation there. The drugs are coming north; we’re sending funds and guns south — and as a consequence, these cartels have gained extraordinary power.

President Barack Obama
March 11, 2010
The President and the Drug War: Part I
[I find it fascinating how his words, “we’re sending funds and guns south”, can be interpreted completely differently in present day than most people would have interpreted them at the time he said them.—Joe]

Peterson Syndrome example

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We often complain about the Brady Campaign and other anti-gun people wanting more laws for the criminals to ignore. This sometimes takes the form of them expressing a need for another law to prevent criminals from breaking an existing law. When properly presented this subterfuge can be quite effective on those unfamiliar with the deception.

To pull this off, or perhaps even make it believable to the presenter, the plea for making the illegal “illegaller” some “time and space” is usually put between the existing illegal act and the new behavior they would like to make illegal.

It turns out this isn’t always the case.

I was reading the Brady Campaign report Exporting Gun Violence and ran into a sentence that really grabbed me. This sentence is, for all intents and purposes, self-contradictory:

ATF can only stop illegal conduct, and as long as it remains legal to sell unlimited quantities of military-style weapons or sell guns without background checks, the illegal flow of guns will continue.

I can’t read that sentence without an immediate jarring sensation. It’s like being slapped on the head or something. It does not compute and I immediately have to reread it to try and figure it out—and it can’t be figured out. I would almost give them a pass if this had been something said in a verbal debate where your brain isn’t working at full capacity and words sometimes don’t come out quite right. But this was in a lengthy report that was written by “Jonathan Lowy, Daniel Vice, Robyn Steinlauf, Amanda Koulousias, Sarah McLemore and Jordan Zlotoff, with assistance from Mary Boyle.”

If they were engaged in deliberate deception they would have put time and space between the contradictory elements of that sentence. I can only conclude it was not deliberate deception. Their brains have to be wired in some manner that is completely alien to me. They must have some strange mental problem in order to put something like that in a written report.

Light a candle with your gun

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As widely reported the Brady Campaign will be lighting candles on Sunday as their meager effort to remain relevant.

The response of the gun world is to light a candle and show how you can prevent violence. Take a picture and post it on the net. If you don’t have a good net outlet for it send the picture to me (candle@joehuffman.org) or any one of many other gun rights activists offering to do the same.

I keep thinking I should create an image involving Boomerite, gasoline, a rifle, and a highly exothermic reaction instead of an ordinary candle. But I probably won’t have time for that and will have to settle for something much more mundane. Sunday I probably will be attending a USPSA match and I’ll try to get them to incorporate a candle into one of the stages.

And for people that will be in the Seattle area on Sunday it would be nice to have someone take a few pictures of the Washington Ceasefire turnout. Here are the details:

10:30 AM – 11:30 AM – Westlake Plaza, 501 Pine Street
(Downtown) Seattle, Washington 98101
Host: Washington Ceasefire
Note: Take the Union Street exit off I-5 in downtown Seattle and go straight for three blocks and north for one block to Fifth Avenue and Pine Street.

This turns out to be just across the street from where I work. I could view the event from a window in my office if I were in town. Since I won’t be in town I would really like to have information about their turnout from someone who will be here.

Boomerite that didn’t go boom

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Ry posted a video on YouTube of the new shooter shooting our defective boomerite:

I’ll probably be doing more testing tomorrow.

Quote of the day—Josh Sugarmann

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The same industry that has given us armor-piercing `cop-killer’ bullets, plastic handguns, and assault weapons has now added caseless `phantom’ ammo to its litany of assaults on public safety. This is just the latest example of the failure of a system that allows a virtually unregulated industry to develop and market hazardous products without the pre-market scrutiny afforded almost all other products in America.

Josh Sugarmann
Violence Policy Center Executive Director
July 6, 1993
New Technology–Caseless “PHANTOM” Ammo–Could Devastate Police Investigations
[In what universe did almost all products receive “pre-market scrutiny” before being “allowed” to go on sale? Even as far back as 1993 Sugarmann lived in a different America than the rest of us.

The ‘cop-killer’ bullets did not and still don’t exist, the “plastic handguns” could and can be detected by airport metal detectors just fine, and “assault weapons” were and are used less frequently to kill people than fists or feet.

What I find somewhat surprising is that even after decades of being disconnected from reality Sugarmann and his organization still receive enough money to maintain their delusions.—Joe]

Fast and Furious fallout?

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Periodically I trade emails with some people within the ATF. I recently noticed they have a rather strongly worded restriction on the use of the email attached to each message. This restriction is identical regardless of  the person I received it from within the ATF. I admit my sample size is small but it does include people in significantly different geographical area.

The restriction is (bold in the original):

******* NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attached files are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above in connection with official business. This communication may contain Sensitive But Unclassified information that may be statutorily or otherwise prohibited from being released without appropriate approval. Any review, use, or dissemination of this e-mail message and any attached file(s) in any form outside of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives or the Department of Justice without express authorization is strictly prohibited.

I didn’t remember it always being that strongly worded so I went looking at previous emails to see if it had changed. It had.

The notice above first appeared on March 29, 2011. A previous email from the same person on March 23, 2010 (the previous year) had this restriction (bold in the original):

******* NOTICE: This electronic transmission is confidential and intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and destroy this message in its entirety (including all attachments).

So sometime in that year (and six days) between March 2010 and March 2011 the notice changed. My hypothesis is that the leaking of various emails associated with operation Fast and Furious caused a review of the restriction and a rewording which was much more strict.

The question I have (calling all lawyers!) is; Does the restriction have any legal weight in use against me or is it merely a legal bluff? For example, am I at risk for merely revealing the restriction even though I did not reveal the other contents of the emails? What if I were to reveal to the public the gist of one or more email discussions that clearly was not “sensitive information” but might be somewhat embarrassing to the ATF?

Winning the culture war

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Author Paul M. Barrett (Glock: The Rise of America’s Gun and American Islam: The Struggle for the Soul of a Religion) has another article on gun control in Business Week (a Bloomberg publication). The gist is that the gun rights movement is winning big time. Here are some excerpts from Gun Control: A Movement Without Followers:

The inaction, especially President Barack Obama’s passivity on the topic, demonstrates that gun control has expired as a national political issue. If Democrats can’t sell stiffer restrictions after a midday attack on a congresswoman, when can they?

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Closing gaps in the background-check system would likely have only a modest effect on crime rates. But for gun control advocates struggling to stay relevant, the push for such changes represents a noteworthy shift—and a concession to reality. Having decisively lost the decades-old political and cultural argument over whether Americans should have the right to pack heat, they need to adapt to meet the demands of a public that wants to reduce the number of crimes—not the number of guns.

Overall the article is pretty good—especially coming out of New York City from a Bloomberg publication. But I vehemently disagree with the first sentence of the last paragraph. The CDC was unable to find compelling evidence that any gun law reduced crime rates at all. An extremely minor change such as proposed cannot possibly have a measurable positive impact.

Another point of contention I have is this sentence:

Some might argue that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms would not be threatened by an absence of 33-round magazines. The National Rifle Assn. nevertheless opposes the legislation on the debatable theory that it would lead to a slippery slope ending in mass gun confiscation.

Perhaps Barrett has a source for the NRA “slippery slope claim” that I was not able to find (I have his email address and will ask him) but I have never heard of it before. But I did find this opposition from the NRA:

The ban interferes with the ability of people to protect themselves against criminals. Police officers don’t use reduced-capacity ammunition magazines, because it would limit their ability to protect themselves against criminals. Why should private citizens be forced to use them?

I fully agree with this and would also like to add that magazines of greater than 10 rounds are clearly protected by the Second Amendment because they are “in common use”. The phrase “in common use” is straight from the Heller decision and provides a constitutional block to efforts restricting normal capacity magazines.

Update: I received a response from Barrett. The response applicable here is:

Here’s the source:”With H.R. 308, Rep. McCarthy is pursuing the agenda of banning guns and magazines that she brought to Washington 14 years ago.” — NRA ILA
Full cite: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=6139

My response was:

Thank you for the cite.

I have read both the page you refer to and the detailed fact sheet it links to. The closest information I can find to support your claim of the “slippery slope” is this paragraph:

With H.R. 308, Rep. McCarthy is pursuing the agenda of banning guns and magazines that she brought to Washington 14 years ago. In 2003, 2005 and 2007, Rep. McCarthy introduced bills that, like H.R. 308, would have banned magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Those bills would also have banned all firearms that were subject to the federal “assault weapon” ban of 1994-2004 and all firearms made specifically to comply with the 1994 ban. They would also have banned all semi-automatic shotguns, commonly owned semi-automatic rifles that don’t use detachable magazines of any size, and other commonly owned firearms.

This is hardly the basis of their objection to H.R. 308. While it could be characterized as a slippery slope argument I would have said it was to show the character (or lack thereof) of Rep. McCarthy.

The main basis of the NRA objection was clearly spelled out as being a violation of the “in common use” constitutional barrier, it would make self-defense more difficult against multiple and/or determined attackers, and it would not affect those with criminal intent.

Update2: Barrett responded with:

The NRA asserts that a law that would restrict magazine capacity is part of a campaign to ban guns. Classic slippery slope logic. I think “debatable” is a very polite way of expressing my skepticism that restricting mag capacity to 10 leads to a gun ban. In any event, as the piece indicates, the debate about magazine capacity, at this juncture, is a waste of everyone’s time. It’s not happening. There are millions of large cap mags out there, and no one is going to ban them. We should focuse energy on getting criminals off the street. While we’re at it, we could also focus on making sure convicted felons and the mentally ill don’t get guns in the first place. On that, I think, a large majority of us agree.

Quote of the day—Amos

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It’s about feelings and self-identity for Progressives. They’re like monkeys. They’ve got enough primate brain to form tribes, but they just don’t use the higher faculties. So it’s no surprise that flinging crap is their modus operadi.

Amos
January 4, 2012
Comment to Well, your legislature asked for it
[The tribes thing stuck with me. They do have thing about about groups don’t they? The individual and individualism is denigrated. They say things such as “The good of society is more important than the individual.” And “It takes a village.” They put a lot of effort into masses of people into the streets without any clear rational message.

Yet it was individualism that created the tremendous advances in Western Civilization which other societies were forced to adopt (or attempt to destroy) lest they be left far, far behind.—Joe]

Quote of the day—NRA-ILA

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Sporting events involving automatic firearms are similar to those events such as silhouette shooting and other target-related endeavors and deserve the same respect and support.

NRA-ILA
NRA to Fight Machine Gun Ban
Monitor, Vol. 13, No. 13, (August 15, 1986), p. 3.
The Monitor was a publication of the National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action.
[We still have a way to go before the NRA and other gun rights organizations can start working on support for fully automatic weapons. But people should not think the NRA kicked them to the curb without a second thought.

For more background on the situation behind the scenes at the NRA at the time see Neal Knox – The Gun Rights War.—Joe]

Blister packs at Costco

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A long time ago Greg Hamilton said, “We’ll know the gun-grabbers have been put out of business when you can buy a blister pack of six Glock’s at Costco.”

We aren’t there yet but we are getting closer. Last night at Costco I saw blister packs of three “Tactical Flashlights”:

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Interesting hypothesis

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The following is in the comments from Ken. I thought it deserved a lot more visibility.

The reason that anti-gun fanatics always associate guns with sex is this: for them, gun control is a sexual strategy. In a gun-controlled state (whether a “state” like Red China or a “state” like New York State), alpha males–consisting solely of violent thugs, policemen, and men who are rich enough to afford private security–are completely dominant, and typically have two or three women each. Since these alpha males consist of perhaps 10% of the population, 90% of the males are competing on roughly even terms for 75% of the women. For the typical beta male, that is, the average working stiff who is not a coward but has neither the time to become a good fighter nor the money to hire others to fight for him, this is a very bad deal.

However, for the perhaps 20% of males who are omega males–natural cowards–this is actually a good strategy. When no man can stand up to the thugs, the distinction between beta males and omega males is eliminated. For someone like “Jscottfur,” this means that his chance of being with a woman rises to 75 out of 90, whereas in an armed society, he’d have as much chance of getting laid as Joan Peterson has of being elected NRA president.

Basically, the sexual aspect of a gun that scares Jscottfur isn’t that it’s a substitute penis. Rather, it’s a substitute fist. It reduces the difference between alpha and beta males, while exposing omega males like him as the cowards they are.

This is consistent with an observation I have made a couple times before. Men who support gun control look and act like sheep.

Even “Acting President” (the “alpha” of the entire Brady Campaign organization) Dennis Henigan has the look of an “omega male”.

Quote of the day–Mao Tse-tung

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Every Communist must grasp the truth, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the “omnipotence of war”. Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the labouring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed.

Mao Tse-tung
November 6, 1938
PROBLEMS OF WAR AND STRATEGY
[I have used part of this quote before but never the full context. I think this adds a great deal. It’s about the requirement that Marxists control the guns to obtain and keep political power.

While it is true that not all gun-grabbers are Marxist every communist must grasp the truth… And it is for this reason that every gun-grabber must be suspected and carefully examined for communist intentions.—Joe]

Nice but probably naïve

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David E. Young (Second Amendment Historian extraordinaire) posts about attempting to contact other historians who contributed Heller briefs supporting the bad guys. Young’s research shows the error of their ways in the most factual manner possible without trying to put them down. That is very nice but I suspect it is also very naïve. If my rather extensive experience with anti-gun people is any indication the facts are irrelevant to them. About the only thing they understand is political power.

Quote of the day—Jscottfur

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Don’t waste a second thinking I give a crap whether you show up at my house this holiday. If you would rather stay home stroking your phallic toy than enjoying the company of family, then knock yourself out. Show the world that you are just a self-centered, paranoid freak who goes through life either expecting or hoping for an opportunity to kill somebody. Get a life Ramboid.

Jscottfur
November 24, 2011
Comment to Dear Amy, Should I Let My Holiday Guests Pack Heat?
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

It not just an astute observation, it’s Markley’s Law that the ignorant describe a specific enumerated right beyond their understanding in terms more familiar to their primitive social development.—Joe]

Not enough columns on the spreadsheet

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The potential new shooter I mentioned yesterday actually came through. It is a friend of Ry’s daughter Arden. So today Ry and I took Arden and Megan for a small private Boomershoot party.

The new shooter aspect went very well. Once she figured out a couple things with the first magazine she nailed three clay targets in a row from about 40 feet away then started nailing the steel swinger target we had set up. That was with a suppressed .22 LR with a red-dot scope. She probably went through 30 or 40 rounds with my iron sighted Ruger Mark II as well. She fired a couple magazines from the AK (and took the USPSA target home) . She went through another magazine with the AR-15, two rounds from the 12-gauge Saiga (she said she really liked it but the recoil was a little more than what was comfortable), and about 15 rounds from my STI in .40 S&W.

On the Boomershoot side we tried a new packaging method. We put the Boomerite directly into the cardboard boxes then wrapped them in Saran Wrap for protection from air and moisture. The packaging didn’t go as smoothly/quickly as I had hoped but I think with the proper equipment it could work. We didn’t bother to make up any of the old style targets with the Boomerite in a zip-lock bag and putting the bag inside the cardboard box. What could go wrong?

Megan hit her target on the first shot and it went off with a boom that wasn’t much more than the muzzle blast from a shotgun. Hmmm… almost a dud. Well, the others will probably be better. They were all worse. Some of them just barely popped and blew off a corner of the box.

Ry’s guess was that we had messed up the mix some way or another. Perhaps the batteries were bad on one of the scales (which we didn’t bother to check the calibration on). I wasn’t so sure. The mix looked normal to me. I’ve seen many thousands of pounds of the stuff and I can usually tell when something isn’t quite right just from looking at it.

Ry then did a very “Ry thing” (he has an extremely powerful CPU but it’s running a buggy software). He asked me to put some of the spilled Boomerite in a position where he could shoot directly at the cup or so that was in a corner of a box without going through the Saran Wrap or the cardboard box. I figured he would do this from 10 yards away or so. Nope, he walked up and got far more than “Entertainingly Close”. I’m not going to say how close but I will say that I was evaluating the ground near where he was shooting to make sure I could get my vehicle in there to roll the remaining body parts into the back and haul them to the hospital. The cup or so of Boomerite detonated with the normal BOOM! we all know and love. Ry still had all his limbs attached but he said his head hurt. He asked if the left side of his face was bleeding. It was red but not bleeding. He did have what looked a lot like a zit on his forehead that was bleeding slightly.

What we concluded from this admittedly small sample is that the packaging made a difference. How having a few layers of Saran Wrap on the outside of the box instead a zip-lock bag on the inside of box makes such a big difference is something we don’t understand. More tests are needed to confirm the results and that the old packaging works as expected with the same batches of material used with the new packaging methods. Assuming the weather cooperates I’ll do that next weekend.

As we have said many, many times before, “We don’t have enough columns on our spreadsheet to model this behavior correctly”.

Quote of the day—Howard Nemerov

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For 2012, the most important criteria in determining a candidate’s legitimacy: how comfortable is the candidate with the concept of armed citizens?

Howard Nemerov
December 30, 2011
A Tough Year for Gun Control’s Brady Campaign: Gun rights advanced across the country, and Brady’s own statistics undermined their cause.
[As has been pointed out by many others the attitude a candidate has about the specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms is a strong indicator of how they regard other freedoms. If they are opposed to the people keeping an bearing arms then one must seriously suspect they want to change the relationship.

As a single political metric for freedom It’s far from perfect (numerous counter examples could be given) but if only one measure is used it probably is the best. And in a worst case scenario the RKBA can be utilized to recover the other freedoms. It is not so with any other single measure. This is why the NRA calls the RKBA America’s First Freedom.—Joe]

Boomershoot Mecca prep

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My blogging activity has been pretty meager the last few days. First it was the guests we had for the holidays then I spent a lot of time on Boomershoot stuff. This is a post about some of the Boomershoot stuff.

I purchased an ATT Microcell to put on site so that I could have cell service at Boomershoot without switching carriers. It requires a solid high speed Internet connection with low latency. The existing connection was via satellite and it wasn’t even close to good enough. My brother Gary has a good connection a mile or so away and while I didn’t have line of sight to his place from Boomershoot I did have the ability to pick up the Wi-Fi signal from the T.V. antenna mast of the neighbors house. I spent all day Wednesday (December 28th) in the rain climbing up and down the roof of my brother’s house putting up a Nanostation 2. This was more challenging that most roofs because it was very steep and made of slick steel. Smooth steel in the cold rain. That little exercise involved parking my vehicle on the other side of the house to attach a rope to, using two ladders, and laying face down on the wet roof. I got soaking wet. In North Central Idaho. In late December. But it was going to be worth it. Right?

I first measured the signal strength with the unit attached to the top of a ladder. It was good, about -55 dBm. I need at least -75 dBm to get a semi-reliable connection. After I had it all mounted and powered it up again the signal strength was about -82 dBm. What? How could that be? It was higher than on the ladder and even though it still wasn’t high enough to get line of site to the neighbor’s house it should have been better.

I moved the vehicle back around to the other side of the house did the thing with the rope and two ladders and getting soaking wet again to tweak the position. I turned the antenna a little bit and the signal strength looked great again. I came back down. Still good. Nice.

I came back the next day (Thursday) to finish up on the inside of the house with putting an end on the Ethernet cable I pushed through the wall and routing the cable on the inside in a neat and tidy manner. I connected it all up and tried connecting to the Wi-Fi access point at Mecca two hops away. Pings were erratic. Sometimes they were 4 mS and sometimes they would time out. I measured the signal strength again. It was bouncing all over. -85 sometimes and the mid -60s at others. I rebooted units, changed antenna polarizations, and all kinds of things on both units involved. Nothing helped. The signal strength was just not dependable.

Friday (yesterday) morning I visited the only non-satellite high speed Internet provider office for that location (their office is in Moscow, where I live) to talk to them about getting a direct connection. They wanted an address.

It’s in the middle of a field:


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There is no “address”.

This seemed to be a bit of a problem for them. I told them it was a shipping container where I had solar charged batteries for electricity. I finally allowed them to believe it was a construction site (we construct targets there, right?). Then they wanted to know how long construction would be going on. “Several years” seemed to suck the brains right out of them because they stood there with slack faces without saying a word. I finally explained that I hold a shooting event there every year and we construct the targets for the event there. I run the event with web based software, I need a good Internet connection to run the AT&T Microcell so I could make emergency services calls if needed, and a large number of bloggers attend and they appreciate having free Wi-Fi. I go out there several times a year to check on things and do tests. I use the Internet a lot and will continue to do so.

The blank stares slowly faded and they started talking again. After about 20 minutes they agreed to send someone out “sometime soon” to do a “site survey”. I had requested one back in August or September without them following through so I wasn’t exactly convinced they were wanting my business so I pushed them pretty hard for a firm date. They told me I was about number 94 on their list and it would be a while.

It was now my turn to be speechless for a few seconds.

I then told them the site had a great view of the mountain top where their access point is and it is closer than my brother Gary who subscribes to their service. The site survey really isn’t necessary. Could they just send someone out right now, while I was going to be there, and connect me up? And I’m almost never around on weekdays since I work in Seattle… Nope. That was impossible.

More pushing for a date and they said maybe in a couple weeks. And they might even be able to do it on a weekend when I was there. They took my number and promised to get back in touch when they had a firm date.

I then went back to Mecca and confirmed my connection was flakey. From Mecca to the neighbors house I had about 15 to 20 Mbs transfer rates. From Mecca to the outside world it was about 15 Kbs—when it was connected at all. Good enough to sometimes get email to come through and some web pages to eventually load but the satellite connection was actually better.

I spent the rest of the day tidying up Mecca. I put in the RIGrunner and routed wires a little neater and more permanently (still much to be done). I unpacked all the mixing table stuff and spread it out on the tables to see how it might work with the new layout. This was potentially important to get done yesterday because Ry thought he might be bringing over a new shooter today. I wanted the place ready to produce targets with minimal time spent unpacking and getting ready to actually make targets. It turns out the new shooter backed out so it didn’t matter that much.

Here are some pictures:

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The boxes would normally be folded and ready to be filled but the layout was good enough to see that it should work out.

We will probably go back out with a small crew sometime in the next couple of months and do some testing just to make sure but so far, except for the Internet connection, I’m very pleased with the new explosives production facility.

MGM target special and give away contest

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MGM makes some great targets. Mike is a very clever guy and has some really great ideas. I have shot his targets at many matches and I have never seen a problem with them.

They have some specials this month. You might want to spend some of your Christmas money on one or more of them (via email):

Here is our first special of 2012.  Happy New Year!!!!  We are proud to offer our AP8 Automatic Resetting Target.  This target stands 14” tall and is 8” wide at its widest point.  The “foot flag” offers a splash of color if you are shooting at a long distance so there is no questions about whether you have hit the target or not.  Sale priced this month at $135.00 regularly $187.35.

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The second item on our special is the MGM Spinner.  As seen at 3-Gun Nation matches  this challenging target must be hit multiple times to get the target plates to spin.  A great bargain at only $299.00 regularly priced at $388.42.

Now the big news is the MGM GiveAway Contest for 2012.  Every month of 2012 we will be giving away each, of a Safariland $100.00 gift certificate, a Seekins Precision  Rail System,  a Predator Tactical scope mount and a gift certificate for $500.00 to apply to a purchase of a pistol, DPMS  .22 Upper, ESS Safety glasses, FNH mat and sling, Impact Data Book,  Benchmade knife, Tactical Solutions  laminated 10/22 rifle stock, Primary Weapons Systems  Triad Suppressor for.556 and a Warne Scope Mount.  All you have to do is buy one of our Monthly Specials and you are in the drawing.  We will hold this drawing every month for all of 2012.  All new entries every month. 

Jim Potter

Key Account Manager
MGM Targets
Caldwell, ID 83607
888-767-7371 ext. 101

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