These two articles just came out today:
Unexpected JWST Observations Hint We Might Be Inside A Black Hole
A new study looking at observations by the JWST of the early universe has thrown up a new and intriguing mystery; the majority of galaxies appear to be rotating in the same direction. This finding, not predicted by our current understanding of the universe, may hint that we are inside a black hole, according to the study’s authors.
This is the more interesting one:
Without a doubt, since its launch, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has revolutionized our view of the early universe, but its new findings could put astronomers in a spin. In fact, it could tell us something profound about the birth of the universe by possibly hinting that everything we see around us is sealed within a black hole.
In a random universe, scientists would expect to find 50% of galaxies rotating one way, while the other 50% rotate the other way. This new research suggests there is a preferred direction for galactic rotation.
The observations of 263 galaxies that revealed this strangely coordinated cosmic dance was collected as part of the James Webb Space Telescope Advanced Deep Extragalactic Survey, or “JADES.”
“It is still not clear what causes this to happen, but there are two primary possible explanations,” team leader Lior Shamir, associate professor of computer science at the Carl R. Ice College of Engineering, said in a statement. “One explanation is that the universe was born rotating. That explanation agrees with theories such as black hole cosmology, which postulates that the entire universe is the interior of a black hole.
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Black hole cosmology, also known as “Schwarzschild cosmology,” suggests that our observable universe might be the interior of a black hole itself within a larger parent universe.
The idea was first introduced by theoretical physicist Raj Kumar Pathria and by mathematician I. J. Good. It presents the idea that the “Schwarzchild radius,” better known as the “event horizon,” (the boundary from within which nothing can escape a black hole, not even light) is also the horizon of the visible universe.
This has another implication; each and every black hole in our universe could be the doorway to another “baby universe.” These universes would be unobservable to us because they are also behind an event horizon, a one-way light-trapping point of no return from which light cannot escape, meaning information can never travel from the interior of a black hole to an external observer.
This is a theory that has been championed by Polish theoretical physicist Nikodem Poplawski of the University of New Haven.
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“Accordingly, our own universe could be the interior of a black hole existing in another universe,” Poplawski continued. “The motion of matter through the black hole’s boundary, called an event horizon, can only happen in one direction, providing a past-future asymmetry at the horizon and, thus, everywhere in the baby universe.
“The arrow of time in such a universe would, therefore, be inherited, through torsion, from the parent universe.”
The “our universe is a black hole” hypothesis was first published in July 1972. With a deeper dive into the topic in December of the same year.
My first contributions to the topic were over 36 years later:
- February 20, 2009: Joe Huffman on X: “I’m listening to The Black Hole War. This inspired me to explore the hypothesis that our universe is a black hole.”
- February 20, 2009: Joe Huffman on X: “We are rushing toward the singularity at the speed on light on the time axis.”
- February 22, 2009: Quote of the day–Edward Abbey
- May 24, 2010: My book list
- July 16, 2010: Our universe is a black hole
- June 2, 2012: Others who say our universe is a black hole
- January 14, 2025: Only Time Will Tell
The universe is a strange and interesting place!
As always, I have to ask if any of the ideas being proposed make predictions that are both testable and falsifiable? (1) If not, they may make for interesting philosophy, but they are not good hypotheses in a formal scientific sense.
(1) Preferably via techniques that we either have access to today, or can see a feasible pathway towards. This is one of the major problems with, for instance, string theory … it might be interesting and elegant, it might even be right; but the energy ranges needed to test its predictions are so absurdly, ridiculously beyond our present particle accelerator technology one needs a Douglas Adams-class analogy to describe just how far away we are at the moment from being able to exercise competing hypotheses. While it can be amusing for a beam jockey like me to watch string debate from the sidelines, it’s not really useful guidance for what to build next. Maybe a charged microsingularity collider, if I could figure out how to make them without getting my source eaten.
Elon Musk has offered that he’s “99.9999% sure we’re living in a simulation.” If it’s a good simulation, by definition (in our existing terms) it is impossible to determine from within the simulation that it is a simulation; only in the presence of identifiable anomalies – points or cicrumstances where the simulation fails – might it be possible to determine the existence of a simulation from inside it. Which, of course, requires knowing enough about such anomalies to identify them as such, and some amount of knowledge about what is outside the simulation (which might be – marginally – satisfied with “whatever it is, it is not this” which also assumes some form of concrete knowledge beyond whatever the simulation is, and we’re back to running in circles again.)
The same statement appears to be true regarding “our universe is inside a black hole” given what we know (or think we know) about black holes. To confirm that hypothesis we would need to access, in some way, data of some usable type, from whatever is outside our particular black hole, and based on our current understanding of them, that’s impossible, as is determining that “the larger universe” is multiple black holes.
In fact, we’re not in full agreement on, exactly, what a black hole is, just what our knowledge limitations appear to indicate what it might be. A ‘black hole’ might just be the limitation barrier of a very good simulation.
“Only in the presence of identifiable anomalies – points or cicrumstances where the simulation fails –might it be possible to determine the existence of a simulation from inside it.”
Yup, and that is exactly what Jesus did with his “miracles”. He provided the anomalies for us to witness.
Then went on to explain exactly what the creator of this simulation wanted from us.
And that this was not our “home”. That was with him, outside this simulation.
“In my father’s house, there are many mansions.”
“I go to prepare a place for you. And since I go to prepare a place, I will come again and get you.”
This is a place where we learn to fight evil. And the smart ones know the real fight is inside oneself. To not give in to the world, “simulation”. It’s hard. Makes you feel delusional. The simulation is alive and actively trying to get you to embrace evil.
But that’s how we become mentally tough against evil. Learn to spot it. And if necessary, kill it.
It literally makes us fight for our lifes. Or so we think.
The only real question is what happens next?
When we find out if you made the cut, or not.
And Jesus tells us about that too.
Rut-row.
So someone asked ChatGPT v62837, “could you please determine what the universe be like if it were in a black hole?”
And … Here we are, part of the solution! 🙂
So is our black hole universe inside another black hole universe inside yet other black hole universes?
I prefer the theory our universe being carried on the back of a gigantic turtle swimming through time myself.
I could be wrong.
So … Black holes == turtles?
Or maybe we’re a pimple on a dog’s butt?
Damn, that was an LSD flashback!
Actually, we only get to find out the hard way. Or not.
Most scientists are button counting bottle washers.
Almost all science reporting is complete dreck. If journalists could understand science, they probably wouldn’t be journalists.
A. The Doppler Effect does not make things brighter. Dummy.
B. The orientation of the galactic rotational axes is assumed to be non-random in this report. If you flip the axis of a rotating galaxy 180*(!) it will appear to rotate the other way. Since I am not connected with this study, all I can say is that it appears to be sloppy logic.
If you’re able to see anything at all on an MSN website, you’re giving them *way* to much control over your browser, and have no secrets from them. Even the NYT and Goolag don’t require that much.
A difference that makes no difference is not a difference. And whether or not our universe exists in a black hole is essentially irrelevant to us. So it makes no difference. Just another “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin” discussion. And there is simply so much about the universe that we don’t know…and possibly can not know. For the most part cosmology is something to keep autist math wizards busy but has little effect on real every day life. And unless we find a way to travel FTL it’s likely to stay that way.
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