Its Happening Here, Too

When our first child was born, and again after the second, a state case worker was assigned to visit us, inspect our new house, ask us a list of questions and determine whether we were deemed by the state to be fit to keep our own child.  We were allowed, but only after installing fire extinguishers and making a few minor changes around the house, which I had planned anyway.  I had almost forgotten about that small, (to me then) but at the same time insidious, outrage.

Fast forward 14 years, to a post I’d already been working on:


Your Doctor as a Politician, Politicians as Doctors

My wife took our son in for a sports-physical the other day.  The kid’s as healthy as any.  I can almost be persuaded to go along and agree with the school’s requirement, but only in empathy with the administrators, in light of what the trial lawyers have done to our society.   Football is strenuous, sure, but so are a lot of things.  We don’t get a checkup every time we plan a bicycle trip, or for doing farm work, which he did this summer, or shoveling the snow…

The typical string of health related questions was asked, then this question, tagged on at the end:

“Are there any guns in your house?”
“Yes, several”
“Are any of them loaded?”
“Uh, I don’t think so.”
“Well…….stay safe!”

Aside from being completely irrelevant to a sports exam, it’s a bit of a trick question, isn’t it– are any of them loaded?  We teach our kids to treat every gun as if its loaded, never to assume it is unloaded, but I digress.

I wish I’d been there, so I could have explained my point of view to the good doctor, preferably while holding a baseball bat, you know, just to demonstrate that although we keep baseball bats in our house, we keep them for sporting purposes only.

We all need a medical doctor once in a while.  Sometimes our lives may depend on it.  This of course is why people who desire control over other people are trying so desperately to get hold of the medical industry.  Our doctor had ceased being a doctor with those gun questions, and had become a schlep/tool for anti-gun activists, fishing for potential leverage against gun owners.  Remember during the 1990s when they were defining “gun crime” as a “public health” issue?  That was about the same time our co-president was pushing for full nationalization of health care (I say “full” because we’re already halfway there).

Our doctor asked no questions about any of several more common and statistically far greaterd dangers found in a typical home.  “Do you have any insect poisons? for  instance, was not asked.  Nor was anyone in the medical field interested in how much time our kids are spending on bicycles, around a swimming pool, around matches and gasoline, in the sun without sunscreen, or whether there are stairs in the house, or unlocked liquors (which there are, by the way).  They didn’t ask about access to sharp knives, time spent on the highways, running with scissors, unprotected sex, or the condition of our house wiring.  Therefore the gun questions can without hesitation be said to have been motivated exclusively by politics.


After writing that, I came across the following, courtesy of K. Dutoit.  The Britts are taking kids away from parents by the thousands, it seems:

He tells Mrs Brookes: “I would like you and your baby to stay in hospital until the courts have made a decision.”

As though they were being given a choice.  That’s cute.  Its also dishonest and sickening.

The social worker says the two or three days the mother has with her baby in hospital will allow her to begin breast-feeding and that once the infant is taken away, social services will pick up expressed breast milk from her home and deliver it to the foster carers (sic) for bottle-feeding.

I can imagine the Social Services (SS) worker speaking in a German accent:  Vee haff come for zee breast milk.  If you haff not met zee quota, schnell! (Those of you with children will understand.  The rest of you will think I’m trying to be funny.)

The social worker admits to the couple that a back-up plan is being drawn up in case the judge refuses the application for a care order. He says: “What we also have to think about is a child protection plan that looks at you, at home, with your baby. There is no immediate risk to your child from yourselves, that’s my understanding from reading documents.”

Throw ’em a bone of hope in an insane situation, like you’re on their side.  F*<%ers!  Those of you with children will understand.  Those without children:  You can never understand the extent of the pure evil of this.  Its how they get you.  You cannot fight them.  You cannot do anything but hope you can have your child back.  Its all that matters to you, and you won’t do anything to risk upsetting those in charge of your baby’s fate.  It is a hell like you cannot imagine.  Nothing alleged to have happened at Abu Ghraib under U.S. control comes anywhere close. I am not kidding.

Juxtapose the UK story with our doctor’s incongrous gun questions for my son here in the U.S., and I submit that unless we stop this sort of thing, smack it down wherever it pops up, we’ll end up with our very own police state, with the medical profession, social services, and lets not forget education, as integral parts of the enforcement system.  All acting very polite of course, saying, “Please do this” and, “Please do that” while they have absolute power over you.

Hillary-Care anyone?

No.  I’ll opt for Liberty, thank you very much.


7 thoughts on “Its Happening Here, Too

  1. I had a Portland, OR Kaiser Permanente doctor try that crap with me.

    I asked him what form of firearms safety training he had … when he said none, I then asked him if it was now Kaiser Permanente policy to have unqualified individuals provide advice in subjects they had zero training in?

    And could I have a copy of this policy in writing for my lawyer?

    He left the room, and had some other physician handle me … no mention was made about firearms.

    The next day some Kaiser administrators showed up and personally apologized, and stated that giving advice in any matter outside of training and specialty was not Kaiser policy.

  2. Excellent response. We’ll see how our local clinic handles the same questions.

  3. David Codrea posted a bit on this back in 2005: HERE . His post includes a link to a great form developed in concert with a professional risk manager that is great for handing to docs who ask this question. I’ve had one in my bag or pocket every time I’ve gone to the doctor with my kids, but so far haven’t had reason to pull it out.

  4. That form of Codrea’s was on my mind when I started in on that doctor … I didn’t have a copy with me, but I didn’t do half bad faking it verbally.

  5. 1. Choose the right doctor. I know at least one in town who is pro-gun – your wife will know who I am talking about.

    2. Lie. The docs generally don’t care about the politics of the question. If you raise a fuss, the doctor hears simply “blah blah blah yes I have guns blah blah blah.” Just tell the doc “nope, no guns.” I don’t normally endorse lying, especially for my kids, but here I take the pragmatic approach. If you want to raise a fuss, bring it up with the AMA – they recommend asking this question.

  6. Very scary story out of England. The vid has been pulled from YouTube, wonder if they managed to get it posted elsewhere, I would be very interested in seeing it.

  7. Very scary story out of England. The vid has been pulled from YouTube, wonder if they managed to get it posted elsewhere, I would be very interested in seeing it.

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