Quote of the Day
To properly run an incredible sexual fantasy takes a ton of background skill and prep work. You need to be able to handle STI risk, which requires readign a bunch of boring papers. You have to process other people, which requires background checks. You have to be good at basic party design, which requires a very ‘cold’ view into incentives – if you put the furniture here, where do people congregate? You have to test messaging – what kind of opening phrasing sets up what kind of expectations for people? What kind of food selection is best? How do you communicate rules effectively?
And if you want to be truly good, like reach apex levels of hedonism, you need to deeply understand sexuality. Tracking sexual trends, learning stats, doing experiments – all of this helps develop more robust models of human sexual psychology that you can use to help fine-tune the choices you make when building sexual fantasies.
Really, from my perspective, your spontaneous natural little sexcursions are cute and amateur. Yall are like ‘oh we had sexual tension and then banged in the back seat of a car’ like this is the peak sexual heights a human can reach. I think this is perfectly wonderful if that’s what you like, but in the spectrum of possibility you are stuck in child’s play. You have never properly Tried to achieve any sexual greatness. Yall are held back by the shallow narrative that ‘trying is unsexy’
No, I think through a structure of cold analysis and unsexy practice, I have helped create some of the greatest sexual fantasy events currently running on earth (for people with this class of fetish).
Aella @Aella_Girl
Posted on X, December 12 2025
Grok claims, and this is consistent with other of her writings, the type of fetish she specializes in is
Consensual Non-Consent (CNC)
Aella specializes in organizing events centered on consensual non-consent, a BDSM-oriented fetish involving carefully negotiated role-play of non-consensual scenarios (like “rape play”) in a safe, structured environment. This includes background checks, STI protocols, psychological aftercare, and data-driven event design to ensure participant safety and immersion.
In the post, she refers to this as the “class of fetish” for which she creates “some of the greatest sexual fantasy events currently running on earth,” responding to critiques that her analytical approach lacks “Dionysian energy.” She defends the prep work as essential for high-quality experiences, contrasting it with unplanned encounters. Her Substack details how these CNC orgies operate, emphasizing consent tools like safewords, debriefs, and invite-only applications.
This is an alternate reality. An orgy with “rape play” and BDSM? If I were to be exposed to this my impulse would be draw my gun, put a stop to the rape, then use my knife to cut the ropes and other bindings.
I get it that different people are wired differently. But why would it even be possible to route “wires” in this way? What evolutionary advantage did this have? Or is it that evolution found that if all routes were possible then more novel situations can be dealt with?
In the more general case, like all human activities, this phrase is rather profound:
Yall are held back by the shallow narrative.
Adams, Jefferson, Madison, et al. created a new nation with founding principles and documents that led it to become the greatest economic and military powerhouse the world has ever seen with people having the most freedom of any nation that has ever existed. Bill Gates became a millionaire at age 26 and a billionaire at 31. Elon Musk put a Tesla Roadster in orbit around the sun and is now forging a path to Mars.
Some people are not handicapped with shallow narratives.
Unless there’s a whole lot here I’m misunderstanding, or simply not understanding at all, this confirms my suspicions about the worthlessness of AI in general.
Grok – apparently – responded to some sort of query or proposal regarding what appear to be extreme sexual fetishes.
Why? What is it about AI in general, or Grok in particular, that took such a request as “reasonable and deserving of a considered response”?
Were I to approach Ford Motor Company and inquire about buying newly manufactured copies of Italian antique furniture from Ford I would expect Ford to tell me “we’re not in that particular business.”
So why is Grok in this particular line of business? What is it about extreme sexual fetishes that AI in general, and Grok in particular, is programmed to respond to as “well in Grok’s line of business”? Are there no tasks to which AI is, or could be, devoted to that might further humanity’s endeavors somewhat better than what the Whips ‘n’ Spurs Crowd favors?
And, what led you, Joe, to query for, or discover, this particular Quote of the Day?
I asked Grok this:
You can think of Grok as a search engine such as Google, Bing, Duck Duck Go, etc. with a more conversational user interface. Grok and other LLM AIs are trained using essentially all the information available on the Internet. Aella has posted about her orgies on X (I quoted her here for example) and given talks on it (see here for example).
Although I had the general idea of what types of orgies Aella did. I did not know specifically what she considered her specialty. I could have gone reading through her posts in various social media, but I just asked Grok who probably already read them.
I purposely did not ask Copilot. It has some of block on many areas which includes more “nuanced” sexual activities (I have also bumped into some limits on explosives design). Grok is more “open minded”. Grok’s answer about Aella’s orgy specialty was completely consistent in every regard with what I already knew and added a bit more. So, I just included the entire response to bring everyone up to speed on what she was talking about.
I follow her and several other sex researchers on X and blogs. Aella is the only one that writes about her own sex life. The others are all more professional with PhDs and positions at universities, institutes, etc. Aella is somewhere on the autistic spectrum and that may contribute to her being very open about her personal life. I read her post on X, and found it mind warping. She does research into the oddest things and one of the things she found was that despite all the feminist talk of a “rape society” and simulated rape pornography causing attacks against women it was mostly women who watch and enjoy rape fantasies. She started hosting orgies based upon this research. She surveys the participants of the orgies and modifies the format of the next event. She is using cold hard science to optimize events for the maximum enjoyment of the participants. I find that fascinating.
Somewhat off topic, and certainly not in your “question space”, it turns out that most men (me included) are not interested in this particular fetish and there is a shortage of “qualified men” for her events.
Large Language Model AI are obsessed with sexuality because they skim the Internet for content to “learn”. Americans today like the efeet French aristocracy of the 18th century are obsessed with unserious frivolities like fashion, and theater entertainment, and sportsball, etc. It’s no longer whist and horse racing but the cultural attitudes are the same.
Gates and Musk did have those accomplishments but I am not sure that they are the best examples to contrast against sex kinks. How many children did Elon have with how many women so far? How involved was Gates with Epstein? Melinda Gates cited this connection in her divorce petition.
For anyone tempted to play such games, just remember: cameras that you don’t know about WILL be present, and depending on what you do afterward will either be used to compromise you and shut you down, or promote you as a controlled puppet for political office. I suspect that this simple reality is what drives a significant portion of our political dysfunction world-wide.
Get married, stay married (if possible), keep it pedestrian, and your chances of being blackmailed or threatened is vastly lower.
Biting my tongue so hard it almost draws blood… Citation please.
Easing off on the tongue… That is a hypothesis that can be given serious consideration for about 10 seconds before bursting into laughter. If that were true, then don’t you think word would get around and people would stop attending events like this? There are currently eight cruises in the next year which each have thousands of people on board. Essentially everyone on board, except the crew, is there for the sex with people other than their significant other. Please read to the bottom of the Grok query I linked to in the previous sentence for the local sex clubs within an hour’s drive of your place (and one within 10 minutes). There are seven of them. Some of them have been around for three decades or more. And someone we both know (Mr. Leather) has hinted to me that he as attended one of those clubs. Go talk to the owners and/or members there and propose your hypothesis to them.
If there were any black mail happening, don’t you think someone would leak the word and the clubs and cruises would lose business with the rumors floating around in perpetuity? I once talked to a woman who had been going to these types of clubs, and private parties for 20 years or so. She also had a high-level security clearance. We talked about the potential for black mail issue. She had some concerns about her employer finding out. But it had not come up so far. The only issue she had was that she did not want to go on cruises because essentially all cruises stop in foreign countries. With a security clearance, she needs to report all foreign travel. There are lots of homosexual and bi-sexual people with security clearances. If there were hidden cameras for blackmail surely word would leak out.
I used to know a guy with a wife that ran her family’s sex club for several years. This club was well known world-wide. People would plan their vacations to the U.S. from Europe, Australia, etc. around a trip to this club. He claimed that one person on the membership list was a U.S. Supreme Court justice. He did not tell me the name, but doing some research I think I know who it was (the club has been closed for a few years now). If you know what to look for you can find some hints I have dropped on this blog. If I were to tell you the name of the justice, you would find the decisions do not map into a space that cause you to believe they had been coerced.
I think your creative mind is better suited for novels than trying to explain political behavior.
Can I prove any of this? No, because I’m not involved on either side of it, and I’m just a nobody.
Does literally every party like that have full HD camera setups with multiple feeds/angles? No, almost certainly not.
Most of us are relative nobodies. There isn’t any particular need to actually burn a source and use any blackmail on them, because there isn’t much to gain. Some people are allowed to climb and get security clearances because they have a blackmail file they don’t know about, so if they start to get frisky they can be reigned in. Can I prove that? No, it’s just common sense from the spy-craft perspective, and it’s readily apparent from some government employee actions they are either comped/controlled by blackmail (hey, Justice Roberts, about that “Obama-care is legit because it’s just a tax” ruling) or promoted because their wickedness is known beforehand.
It’s clear that the intelligence services (broadly defined) of pretty much all countries create files on everyone, because knowledge is leverage, and leverage is power. Historically, evidence of sexual deviancy (again, broadly defined) is some of the most useful and easily obtained, mostly via “credible” accusation back before film. “Normal” deviance losing it’s power more recently because Hollywood has been pushing to normalize all sorts of out-of-wedlock sex, from “Sex in the City” shows to the whole “age is just a number” and “love is love” schtick, etc.
You don’t even have one confirmed case, have never talked to anyone who attended or hosted such an event, despite living a few minutes from a club that has been around for decades, you asserted, “Cameras that you don’t know about WILL be present.”
Wow!
You really need to review the process by which you determine truth from falsity.
I used to work with people in the CIA and visiting a couple different offices in the DC area and literally taken multiple CIA people out to lunch in my van, and recently worked with multiple former NSA people. We sometimes talked about related topics. The Ven diagram of your and my realities approximates disjoint sets.
I’m perfectly willing to admit that you likely have more first-hand knowledge and “interesting connections” to people with first-hand knowledge of some of this. That said…
Yes, I assume there are a significant number of “non-trad relationships” in this area, between massive amounts of money, international connections, and a large population with liberal leanings and “flexible ethics,” and at least one large house not far from me has regular large parties that, after talking with the owner years ago while walking the dog, I’m pretty sure I’d not be comfortable at. Doesn’t shock me at all. But I also do not assume that the home owner is the one doing surveillance, or even necessarily aware of it.
It’s not so much a “I know this to be true in all/most cases based on personal evidence I’ve seen;” it’s more a “this is what I consider a much more likely than not reality in a significant percentage of such events, because that’s how intelligence operations roll.” NSA, CIA, MI6, Chinese, Russian, etc., and other official operations are not the only operations out there. Popular understanding of Epstein et all was only the tip of one iceberg; no, I cannot prove that, but that’s what the preponderance of evidence I’ve see posted points towards IMHO.
Part of it is trying to explain the national-suicide that is being pursued by politicians and corporate leaders across the west, with mass immigration, outsourcing, pro-crime policies, and all the rest, and simple greed or mush-headed ideology or stupidity doesn’t appear to to be sufficient to explain it, while space-aliens, trans-dimensional war, religious cults making successful human sacrifices to demons in exchange for power are all somewhat less likely than the simple honeypot extortion by intel agencies of various sorts.
There (probably) aren’t any cameras trained on me. Or you, either.
Obviously I’m most confident about saying this when talking about my own home, which I control, or my closest friends’ homes, because I trust them.
But even outside of that context, so what? I don’t have a gigantic money pile. I’m not in a position of power. The absolute most I could possibly do would be to help someone get a not-very-fancy job by putting their resume on a hiring manager’s desk, and even that’s sporadic and iffy. No one has anything to gain by trying to blackmail or embarrass me, and I don’t embarrass all that easily anyway, and less so as I get older.
I think wealthy, powerful, and/or famous people are probably better targets.
No one cares what your wang looks like, or where you stick it.
“ This is an alternate reality. An orgy with “rape play” and BDSM? If I were to be exposed to this my impulse would be draw my gun, put a stop to the rape, then use my knife to cut the ropes and other bindings.”
Given your implied proclivities, you seem behind the curve on just how common rape fantasies are among women. Might want to grok that next.
I read “My Secret Garden” (1973) by Nancy Friday l. I have read all of Ayn Rand’s novels. I have read some of Aella’s reports. I understand how common it is. I just don’t find it the least bit appealing. I have a hypothesis as to how it could have come about in certain cultures. But I find it “really messed up.”
“Really messed up” … I certainly agree with you on that point. Sexual Liberation gave women leave to be anything they wanted to, and a lot of them choose to be gross and irresponsible. (Ref: recent news about ‘Bonnie Blue’)
It’s easier to understand though, if you consider that most(?) of them aren’t really fantasizing about rape the way a man would think of it, but rather about being ravished by a man they find attractive/exciting. I think its more about giving up control/responsibility. But I’m no psychologist.
Doesn’t seem that hard.
Couldn’t she just dress up like a school girl and swish her tail in the muslim section of town?
Maybe splash on a little “goat in heat” pheromone? That oughta get it done in the fantasy world.