I Admire Their Ability to Lie

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Kirk was shot in the throat by a high-powered sniper rifle while speaking to college students at Utah Valley University on September 10.

Phillip Nieto
October 29, 2025
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I have to admire the ability of some people to pack so many lies into a single sentence.

  • The bullet did not involve his throat. *
  • The rifle used was not a “high-powered sniper rifle.” **
  • The rifle did not shoot Kirk. It was a human who fired the shot.

See also: CCRKBA ALERT: MEDIA NOW CALLING KIRK ASSASSIN’S GUN A ‘SNIPER RIFLE’ | Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms. Which includes this:

“The media couldn’t blame Kirk’s murder on a so-called ‘assault rifle,’ so they’re doing the next worst thing,” he added. “They’ve slapped a defamatory label on commonly-owned hunting rifles, hoping to make them the new bogeyman for the gun ban lobby. The Daily Mail has pulled a page out of the gun control playbook simply for the purpose of sensationalism. It doesn’t pass the smell test.

Gun banners lie. It is an essential part of their culture.


* Via Grok: No, it would not be accurate to say the bullet hit him in his throat.

The precise point of impact was the right side of his neck, specifically in the lateral cervical region (near the sternocleidomastoid muscle, approximately at the level of C5–C6 vertebrae). Medically and forensically:

  • The throat refers to the anterior neck (front), including the larynx, trachea, and thyroid area.
  • The neck is broader, encompassing anterior, lateral, and posterior regions.

The bullet entered the right lateral neck, not the anterior throat. It traversed obliquely leftward and downward, damaging the right carotid sheath and spinal structures before lodging near T1 on the left side—never entering the throat proper.

Saying “throat” would be anatomically incorrect and could mislead, especially given conspiracy claims misidentifying blood from internal vascular rupture as an anterior wound. Official autopsy diagrams and surgical reports consistently label the entry as right posterolateral neck.

** Via Grok: The rifle in this case was grandfather’s hunting rifle, modified with a shortened barrel and basic scope—functional for a 200-yard shot, but far from a modern sniper system.

Bottom line: Calling it a “high-powered sniper rifle” is inaccurate and inflammatory—it was a vintage bolt-action hunting rifle, effectively used but not technically either “sniper” or “high-powered” in the modern sense.

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8 thoughts on “I Admire Their Ability to Lie

  1. They were using the George Floyd inspired definition of throat. Seriously, the UK and all their Establishment figures are our enemies. We put ourselves at risk by pretending they are friends.

    • A rifle made for snipers would be a “sniper rifle.” 30.06 caliber is a moderate power cartridge in a sniper rifle. A cartridge like .338 Lapua would be a high power cartridge for sniping.

      The rifle used in Kirk’s murder was not built for snipers. The cartridge is not considered high power in sniper rifles.

      That Grok is not a brain is true and irrelevant in the current context.

  2. Grok is full of shit.

    I say this as someone who has shot many hundreds of battle rifle rounds, including lots of 30-06. If you’re going to tell me that a 30-06 from 120-150 yards away is going to hit a person in the neck and LODGE in the spine, I call bullshit. It’s going out the other side. Moreover, unless the video is reversed (and I’m sure it was not, because the “freedom” printed on his shirt was correctly oriented) the blood gushed from Mr. Kirk’s LEFT side of his neck, not his right. That may well have been an exit wound; frankly, I still have not been able to pin down exactly how Mr. Kirk was sitting in relation to the bullet track (though I’ve frankly not spend much time on it – I have a real life). Perhaps the bullet shattered, and part of it lodged in the spine, with much of the remainder exiting out the left side of his throat. That I can buy.

    But if you’re going to tell me that a full-power 30-06 hit his neck and DID NOT EXIT, I call bullshit. Did not happen. Perhaps it wasn’t 30-06. A pistol round, perhaps. A full power battle rifle round? Not a chance.

    We’ve all seen the video – Mr. Kirk slumped in the chair, his body did not significantly move left or right. If a bullet passed through, doing incredible and fatal damage to the internal structures in his neck, and almost certainly killing him instantly, that’s possible, even likely. That 30-06 is a 150-190 grain bullet moving in the neighborhood of 2400-2600 feet per second. That’s over 2000 foot-pounds – a lot of energy. If all that energy had been dumped in the neck, with the bullet lodging in his spine, he would likely have fallen out of the chair (not knocked across the room like movie bullshit, of course) or some other significant reaction to the amount of kinetic energy being dumped into his body. But that’s not what we all saw.

    Bullets can do funny things, true enough. But physics is still physics, and all that kinetic energy had to be dissipated somewhere. I’ve shot too many deer, sent too much M2 ball – and other 30-06 and similar battle rifle calibers, downrange to buy that the bullet lodged in the spine. 30-06 at that range would have no difficulty blowing right through a spinal column.

    I’m not a conspiracy guy; JFK’s shooter was Oswald, etc. But the report you’ve included as to the impact damage is simply not credible with the reality of a 30-06 bolt action rifle at that range. It does not come close to passing the smell test.

    • I had the same BS detector go off when I heard the claim that the bullet did not exit.

      The counter to that is that it could have been an underpowered load. What if the ammo was WWII surplus? Grand loads are light to begin with. Perhaps the primer or powder age caused a low muzzle velocity.

      Also, it is claimed that human bones are more dense than deer. Kirk was a very large man and young with bone density near the peak of his lifetime.

      Still, it is suspicious. I expect more data will come out in the trial. Bullet pictures and barrell and bullet marking will tell us if it is a very odd occurrence or total BS. The defense should take an even greater interest in such descripencies than we do.

    • Exactly.
      Oswald shot Kennedy with and old 6.5 Carcano from a similar distance. Which is less powerful than an ’06.
      And the first bullet went right through JFK’s throat and spine, front seat of the Lincoln, into and down the arm of the guy in the front seat.
      The second bullet blew the top of his head off.
      But Kirk managed to stop old ’06?
      So ya, it’s all BS. Always has been.

  3. I say it was a high powered sniper rifle. I have several high powered sniper rifles. Some are scoped .30-’06, some are iron sighed .22LR. There are hundreds of millions “high powered sniper rifles” in tens of millions of private hands. Some aren’t even rifles. Let them piss their pants.

  4. What we do know is that Kirk was not shot with an ’06 under 200 yards.
    That the guy’s story of taking the Mauser apart and running off is total BS.
    Since neither of those things happened what we do know is that it was a contrived event.
    Who did what from where and how will never be actually looked for or made known to the public.
    What we do know is that those that should be telling the truth are lying. Regardless of reasons.
    The government is doing the same things they have always done. So, whoever was running crap before is still doing so. As the logic stream has not changed in the slightest.
    It’s all fake and gay.
    My guess is that just like the camera catching the bullet trace of Trump being shot. It was probably a slow moving bullet.
    Say suppressed 300 blackout. (Could also explain how Trump moved his head just in time.)
    The Kirk murder looks exactly like a suppressed 300 blackout wound. It opened on contact and didn’t penetrate enough to exit. and the temporary wound cavity would have ejected blood right back out the same hole. Just as we saw.
    I would be willing to posit that they were probably shot by the same guy with the same rifle.
    A heavily suppressed 8 inch barreled blackout would have worked perfectly in both events.
    It’s all guess work. But the government is lying for a reason. And covering it up for a reason.
    “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”

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