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My personal belief is that history shows that this war of aggression, which is part of a wider Putin aspiration to restore the old Russian Empire and achieve dominance in Europe, can only be resolved by a Russian defeat that would lead to real deterrence. But that is not what is on offer.
The next few days and hours will write the future for our children and grandchildren. The future defeat of the West, which is what is coming down the line as the result of a bad peace deal, would not see a repeat of the Holocaust. It would see a new Russian dominated Europe. The people with most to fear would be the blue-haired protesters on our campuses and in our streets, as well as the LGBTQ+ community who would certainly cease to exist. A newly dominant Russia would and could not tolerate such diversity and certainly not any form of dissent.
Tim Collins
Former British Army officer who served with the SAS and as commander of the Royal Irish
August 19, 2025
Putin could never afford to take the Ukrainian land he wants. He must not get it for free
I don’t see Putin accepting any deal that gives him anything less or equal to what he expects to be able to take in the next year.
And if the response of countries like Finland and Sweden (who joined NATA in response to the war) are an accurate assessment of Putin’s intentions, making such a deal will go down in history like Chamberlain’s “Peace for our time” deal did.
Prepare appropriately.
I’m aggressively pushing for the completion of my underground bunker in Idaho.
I keep wondering what this mythical “bad peace deal” is that left wing commentators keep fulminating about.
I would see any peace deal as bad where the aggressor leaves the table with a net gain. This encourages more aggression. They consolidate, then attack again.
The aggressor in this case was NATO. Look at where the “border” was in 1991 vs today. Remember when we promised that it would not move one inch east. Every country in NATO (except Iceland) has invaded Russia at least once so they have reason to worry.
How so? NATO has not invaded anyone, nor has it occupied any country against its will. That countries have asked to join NATO is more an issue of what dangers to their continued sovereignty other countries see as emanating from Russia, and they perhaps understandably seek to ally themselves with a strong horse. Maybe some sort of CETO, or Central Europe Treaty Organization would be a more suitable transnational organization.
NATO invade Libya and Serbia which posed no threat to any NATO nation. It is changed from a defensive alliance against the Soviets (who have been gone since 1991) into the armed wing of of the globalists.
1st- Back in the 90’s Russia was asking about joining NATO.
2nd- Sovereign nations get to associate with or join treaties with whomever they so chose.
3rd- Russia promised to repsect Ukrainian sovereign and Ikraines borders in exchange for Ukraine sending the Soviet nukes that Ukraine owned to Russia. (Perhaps we should replace them with an equivalent, if Russia doesn’t want to stick to the terms).
And we promised not to move NATO one inch to the east.
Until we did, several times. Then Kamala Harris stepped up and said Biden would except Ukraine into NATO.
Thats when Russian invaded.
Just like we would if Mexico told China they could put nukes on our border.
Think Mexico is a sovereign nation at that point? Or would they just be China’s puppet?
“And we promised not to move NATO one inch to the east.
Until we did, several times.”
And what, exactly, does what WE (the US) promise have to do with what another sovereign may or may not do?
Your argument MIGHT have justified Russia attacking the US, or NATO nations for violating a promise, but not Ukraine.
Analogy- US promises China that we won’t station more troops in South Korea. Yet we do so. So China claims that as a justification for invading Vietnam.
“Sovereign” has a meaning, one that does not require asking other nations for permission to make policy decisions. There was no casus belli.
Russia’s aggresion has almost nothing to do with Ukraine becomeing more friendly with the West per se, but about Russia wanting to be able to have a warm water port for shipping petroleum and LP to which it can build a pipeline. This is out of the same playbook that had them invade and annex part of Georgia.
The US made the same pledge. Then they organized a coup.
If pedos and blue-haired Karens have the most to fear from a resurgent Russia, I say it’s all to the good.
“My personal belief is that history shows that this war of aggression, which is part of a wider Putin aspiration to restore the old Russian Empire and achieve dominance in Europe, can only be resolved by a Russian defeat that would lead to real deterrence. But that is not what is on offer.”
Tim Collins
Former British Army officer who served with the SAS and as commander of the Royal Irish
What he afraid of?
Putin’s going to steal Europe from the Pakistani/Somali/muslum rape gangs? I mean, what could possibly be worse than having your daughters raped by a Russians, right?
That Putin might somehow stop the west from economically committing suicide?
Heaven forbid that we should not allow ourselves to drug and mutilate anything that’s good, true, and beautiful?
Honestly? We believe in manmade global climate change and that you can change your gender. But someone that wants to protect his people from us is the monster?
Were a bunch of fat-headed, brainwashed morons here in the west.
WE started that war. Paid for it. And are desperately trying to keep it going for no other reason than that’s want satan wants.
Would we let China put nuke tipped missiles 200 miles from DC? I trow not. But that’s what NATO wanted to do to Moscow/Russia, through Ukraine.
But for America, why not? It’s not like we haven’t already allowed China and everyone else from shitholistan to come in and raped, rob, drug, and steal whatever they want?
To say nothing of the power elites that steal from us and pay them to do it?
Putin doesn’t want to take over Ukraine/Europe any more than we want to take over Mexico.
He’s protecting Russians from the worst people God ever allowed to exist.
Were just not the good-guys anymore. And Russia isn’t the soviet union.
Even though Lavrov pulled off the century’s ultimate troll with his CCCP sweatshirt in Alaska. (My ribs still hurt from laughing over that one.)
I find it interesting that all the political leaders of Western Europe are consistent in their views and see it differently than you do.
They are certainly consistent in their hatred of speech and free elections. Maybe they should join up with Russia after all.
I have a fair amount of contempt of a lot of their politics. But, no matter how much territory they conquer, I don’t think Russia will be content. Better that the Europeans deal with them now than wait until Russia is threatening U.S. interests later with a much larger empire.
The Muslim invasion of Europe is a problem. But it’s not a serious threat in the short term. They may well turn the place into a middle ages wasteland, but that’s a lesser threat to U.S. interests than Russia controlling the same territory and people.
I think a more likely scenario is that the native Europeans will real “mistakes were made” and engage in mass deportations or even genocide before they submit to a middle ages lifestyle. Not our problem.
Oh, their consistent alright.
Money laundering that would make the cartels blush.
Saling weapons for their friends in the third world through Ukraine. (And having us pay for them.)
Once again getting “someone else” (this time the Ukrainians youth) murdered by the thousands for the fun and profit of it.
All the while pointing at the big baba yaga, the week before they were calling a third world shithole with nukes and a gas station?
This whole war was created and pushed by the west. Maybe that’s something all the western leaders don’t want the average person to understand? Besides that, their politicians.
And the most constant thing about them is they all lie. And are very confident and constant at it. I wouldn’t believe the lot of them if they pointed out the sky was blue on a sunny day.
“If you shake one’s hand, better count your fingers.”
“The future defeat of the West, which is what is coming down the line as the result of a bad peace deal, would not see a repeat of the Holocaust. It would see a new Russian dominated Europe. The people with most to fear would be the blue-haired protesters on our campuses and in our streets, as well as the LGBTQ+ community who would certainly cease to exist.”
Kind of like they are going to anyway? Gay fags don’t reproduce. And western civilization has you digging a bunker? Even without the Ukraine war.
Why wouldn’t Putin do the same for his people?
Putin was KGB, Yuri told us they know exactly what destroys nations. (Look at us today.)
The opposite is also true. They know that what America was with it’s middle class is as good a life as can be expected on God’s green earth.
Would you not murder those trying to destroy you and your family? I would. Just as our forefathers did.
Why would Putin and the Russian people be any different?
We ain’t the good guys anymore.
Especially on this one.
MTHead, I’m having trouble extracting a coherent argument out of this. Yes, politicians are liars and cheats. That is a given. But getting Ukrainian youth murdered for fun and profit? I’m going to need a citation or at least an explanation for that.
I’m not claiming the U.S. is the good guy, or that any country is a “good guy”. Countries are run by politicians. These are criminals with nicer clothes, charisma, and above average ability to read their audience. Almost none of them are “good guys”.
Being able to enumerate the faults of one or more countries does not give us guidance of any sort. You need to enumerate the faults of all the countries involved and rank them according to some criteria. My objective is to determine which set of criminals would make the least bad neighbors and trading partners. I see any of the Western European countries as better than Russia. Still crap, but they all have some good products for trade, most of them have clean streets, don’t sponsor terrorism against us, and they buy our goods and services. Russia and most of the Muslim countries? Not so much.
Do we have a legitimate interest in border changes between Russia and the Ukraine? Not really. Only in that aggressive action today it is an indicator of aggression in the future. Was the Ukraine bombing “ethnic Russians”? I won’t question that. What I will question is, “What is Ukraine’s side of this story?” Isn’t it that these were violent separatists? If they were unhappy with Ukraine rule and wanted to be in Russia, why not just move rather than get violent with their current government?
Fido brought up Germany’s action against Poland. I don’t know about Poland, but my recollection from my history books about similar action in Austria was that the violence against the ethnic Germans was a false flag operation by the Germans to justify the attack. And Germany took all of Poland. I see the replay of that story with Russia as an indicator of Russia’s intentions–the creation of the USSR and beyond.
But, again, mostly not our problem. Let the Europeans decide what they want to do. Maybe we chose sides enough to sell them weapons.
I agree, and as the good book tells us. “You will know them by their fruits.”
We know that all politicians are liars, cheats, and thieves that care not whom they hurt in getting their way.
And the only thing I do know about that region of the world is this.
The Slavs in general are an absolutely brutal people. Not only by necessity, but it’s just something they’re born into and with.
So when they go to war it’s going to be bloody. Really bloody. And ruthless.
Something best to be avoided at almost any cost.
It’s also as corrupt as hell.
So I would imagine their politician are equal to the challenge of the people they must rule over.
And in that part of the world your people and tribe mean everything.
That being said. Let’s pick on our mama.
We know our politicians as corrupt as hell also.
Do they murder people for fun and profit?
I through in the fun part because most people try to mix fun in with the things they do.
As for profit? Absol-freaking-lutely they do.
They can find grandmas that pray at abortion clinics and J6’er strolling through the capital building.
But they just can’t seem to find the crips, bloods, or cartels that murder a 100,000 of our people a year? And steal money from us to pay them for doing it.
Of all the treasonous crimes being carried out in this country, John Bolton is the guy you raid? What, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Alex Soro, and little Billy Gates were unavailable?
The same politicians that let little children be mutilated in ways that would make Dr. Mengele blush.
The same politicians that let 55 million invaders into our country on visas. To say nothing of the backdoor being open for 30+ years?
When those same politicians tell me the big problem is on the other side of the world?
Sorry, I ain’t buying it.
When Joe, Barry, Hunter, Hillary and Vikky Nuland started this whole thing by crossing the lines Putin and Russia had clearly articulated for years?
It’s freak’in noise.
If they want into Russia? It’s for the good of no one but themselves, and their masters.
And truly they proved up on what Putin said in the first place. When Ukraine fired NATO missiles into Russia, all the while using American weapons, satellites and our personal to do everything but push the launch button.
When they steal a 150 billion and send it over there only to have our MANPAD’s show up in Jalisco, Mexico?
Ya, we ain’t the good guy’s anymore.
Right now it’s taken Russia 3 years to get 50 miles into Ukraine. And I’m supposed to worry about them taking Europe?
We’ll both be dead long before they get there. Imagine what we could have done with a 150 billion to clean up our own streets?
You were building or planning on building a bunker long before this all started. Why?
Because the real problem/threat that needs attention is right here at home. Not 10,000 miles away. Putin takes Europe?
Not our monkey, not our circus.
And truly could he be worse than the Paki’s and Solmali’s raping their way a crossed Europe as we speak?
Who’s going to be making things to trade with anyway? Not them.
As Mr. Collins espoused, He’ll wipe out the LGBTQ++++. And the muslim won’t?
Sorry for going long with no citations.
Almost 70 years of smoke being blown up my ass must have soured me a little.
JD was right about those assholes. That is not a good argument for you.
NATO should have been disbanded two years after the Soviet Union collapsed the organization was formed to protect western Europe from being gobbled up by Communist Soviet Union the same way they strong arm appropriated eastern Europe after World War 2. No Soviet Union, no need for NATO. Having said that, wars of aggression should be strongly discouraged as much as practically possible. The key fact for us is that Ukraine is in Europe. If they’re that concerned let them commit 250,000 troops to the frontline meat grinder. No significant number of boots on the ground for the USA!
I don’t disagree with any of that. At the very least, the U.S. should have dropped out of NATO. Let Western Europe do what they think is best in terms of alliances.
I will take the bet that most of Europe will be under Islamic rule before Russian rule.
I will also take the bet no matter what kind of peace, Europeans will find a reason to go to war with each other.
‘Hang your chemistry and electricity! If you want to make a pile of money, invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each others’ throats with greater facility.'” Attributed to a conversation with Hiram Maxim
I would not take that bet. The governments of western Europe seem singularly blind to the idea that there might be danger to Liberal Western Democracy and the values developed there from Muslim immigrants. .
They would be better off under Russian rule. Not that Russia has the capacity to do that.
Ya, like the lady said about 30 paki’s raping a young girl.
“Do you even know anyone that would want to rape a young girl? Let alone know 3 people that would do such a thing.
But to be able to call 30 people you know to come over a rape her?”
European elite aren’t blind to anything.
As for their values? I shudder the thought, Windy.
After the Newland orchestrated maidan coup, years of bombing of ethnic russians in Donetsk and Luhansk, followed by a vote to secede and join Russia (over 90% support), Russia was forced to intervene, just as Germany had to enter Poland after similar warfare against ethnic germans in what was once Germany before the end of WWI.
I don’t hear anyone else saying this, but I personally believe Russia must take Odessa before it can end this war, because if it does *not*, then NATO will force this to start all over again by attacking the ethnic russians in Transnistria.
No Russian ever called me an incel.
Ukraine poked a bear they couldn’t handle. Even if we were egging them into it (and we were) that’s on them. You poke the bear, you get the teeth and claws.
Russia doesn’t want Europe. Russia wants Russia. The reality is, Ukraine has always been Russia. The last couple of decades were an anomaly where a crew of gangsters managed to evade the bear temporarily. That’s it.
Finland has always been maybe-Russia, along with Poland and the -ias. Those are the only ones who need to be worried unless they are poking.
Historically, Finland was Sweden. Until Sweden poked the bear once too often, then it was Russian.
1.7M KIA and MIA.
Just like Russian ballistic missiles being stationed Cuba was a red line we could not allow crossed, NATO missiles in UKR is something Russia cannot allow. NATO and the EU and the USA kept poking the bear until they got a response. But, like a Yellowstone visitor who gets that great YouTube-worthy response, Western countries are finding out that they have a problem bigger than they can deal with.
UKR was a center for bio-weapons research by the CIA, weapons transactions, human trafficking, money laundering, etc. There are a lot of ways to wage unconventional war that doesn’t involve uniformed troops with tanks and bombers and guns. They need a really big war to (a) cover up their crimes, (b) distract people from how miserable they are in a failing economy and mass invasion, and (c) have an excuse for a massive political/economic/monetary reset. People who are poor, desperate, hungry, and feel isolated, will accept all sorts of evils for a promise of one more meal and maybe a chance things will get better. “you will own nothing and be happy” is the goal, and they can’t get there without a pile of dead bodies and totally bankrupted countries. That should be obvious by now.
Russia doesn’t have to invade west. All they have to do is wait; European governments are committing suicide by immigration and financial ruin. They are being run by people who clearly hate their own native populations.
Spot on. Thank you.
Far too few people grasp or will accept the simple reality that Putin is an old school KGB communist seeking to reincarnate the USSR that he grew up in. Conquering Ukraine and reincorporating it into Russia is JUST THE FIRST STEP in his…and his cronies…plan to recreate the USSR. And if not effectively opposed they will conquer much if not all of Europe piecemeal.
Aah yes. I can picture it now, as wave upon wave of Russian T80 tanks thunder through the Fulda gap with gun blazing and grinding hapless Europeans under their tracks!
Followed by the merciless hoards of Cossacks ready to murder and rape their way to southern tips of both Italy and Spain!
It’s a NATO fever-dream from the 70’s Dan. Ain’t going to happen.
But if it couldn’t before the Ukraine war. It’s becoming that way now. All thanks going to us, and our NATO partners.
Ukraine drone commander said just the other day.
“Ukraine is getting hit with up to 400 drones a day. I know of no NATO country that is prepared to survive that much punishment.”
Sun Tzu:
“Never try to stop your enemy when he is destroying himself.”
Being old school KGB, think Putin has read him?
Dan appears to be caught up in the forever-war NeoCon narrative, which always needs a foreign boogeyman to distract from domestic corruption and problems (and (((foreign involvement)))).
Not happening.
The Russians have observed and learned what happens to Empires like the GAE, and want no part of it. Communism wanted to take over the world, but the modern and increasingly Orthodox Christian Russia is only looking to spread Christianity (organically within each country) and sanity. They can see the US is in bad shape, and the US leadership isn’t liked by a majority of the American people. No need for aggressive kinetic war. All the need to do is wait patiently, and they appear to be good at that.
Not that means anything. Go look up and watch:
“Happy People, a year on the Taiga.”
Great documentary on hard and hardy Russians.