Quote of the Day
I can promise moving forward that we Democrats will fix our broken system of imaginary cheating. Otherwise, it might appear Republicans like Trump only say cheating occurred when they lose, and say everything went smoothly when they win.
That, of course, would be absurd.
Shame on us Democrats.
Rex Huppke
November 8, 2024
Opinion: I guess Trump won because Democrats forgot to cheat. Oops!
Prior to the election, everyone I talked to privately about the election expected “they will cheat, just like last time.” They said things like, “Nothing has changed. So how can there be a different outcome?”
Is Huppke correct? Have the elections have been essentially honest and the widespread belief the 2020 election was stolen is just another mass delusion?
I did not have an answer. While I knew some things had changed, my impression was the changes were not significant enough to make a difference.
So, was the vote just so overwhelming in Trump’s favor that the Democrats couldn’t cheat hard enough? If that were true, then at least some of the polls should have predicted a solid win for Trump.
Did Trump cheat enough to win? Maybe. But you would think the “cheating Democrats” would have been able to catch them and get the courts to intervene.
Did the Democrats believe the domestic and global political scene was so toxic they did not want to be at the helm when the Titanic hit the iceberg? Maybe. But weren’t they scared that if Trump got into power again, he would exact a heavy price on those he believed to have wronged him?
As I have essentially given up on legislative action to protect our RKBA, I have also given up on getting the truth on anything political from any news media. Video of speeches is frequently edited to eliminate context. Deep fakes are getting more and more common and nearly impossible to detect. So even those are not really trustworthy. Yes, if the person in the video doesn’t complain about it being fake via some other channel, then it probably is not a fake. But it is getting to be more and more effort to determine the truth with any confidence.
I just want to crawl into my underground bunker in Idaho and come out as needed for sunlight, exercise and producing and gathering food.
Can’t speak to everywhere, but in California, Orange County has *always* been extremely conservative, elections here are *massively* rigged. Have been my entire life.
At the national level, I’d say they had been rigging elections by controlling certain swing states, and by massively rigging the primaries (easier to do, as the parties can make their own rules) so successfully, for so long, that they didn’t think they could lose.
But in 2016, they completely underestimated how much they needed to cheat, and Trump caught them off guard. So in 2020, they installed a *new* system, where, using mail-in voting, they could wait until the real votes were counted, to adjust the cheat as needed. (cheating by *too* much is just flirting with disaster) But the ammount of cheat needed for 2020 was so massive that it could not be hidden. It was “visible from space”, and quite nearly got kinetic pushback in places.
So in 2024, they were being watched by hawks, and lawsuits and investigations where still ongoing from 2020, and I suspect they just *couldn’t* cheat enough to get the job done.
In California, they now pretend that it is *illegal* to hand count votes using paper ballots. In California, legitimate voting has been outlawed.
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
But why doesn’t this show up in the polls? You would think at least some polls would not be in on the scam.
Polls? You mean the polls that told us Hillary won by such a massive margin that Trump should be laughed at in 2016?
Scott Adams says “all data is fake”…. and makes a very good argument for this being accurate, at least statistically. “We will know our job is complete when everything the public believes is a lie”. Question everything, but *especially* “authority”. If you don’t understand it in minutia, such that you have a degree of control over it, then you don’t know it’s true.
Some polls are legit, but anyone can do a poll, so money can plow the legit polls under by sheer volume. Mostly though, they just control the media outlets, and of course they have controlled the schools for generations, and thereby control the “overton window”. Entrenched ideas are hard to change, but when they must change, they do, and once it starts, everything is fair game.
The gods of the copybook headings are about to return.
What Fido said.
I have a hard time believing you actually believe the polls are an accurate reflection of voter preference.
The polls are controlled in order to manufacture the narrative fiction of the closeness of the race to lend legitimacy to the election, to make the official result sound plausible, and prevent the riots and lamp-post parties that would ensue if more normies knew how much was actually being stolen from them. I expect that if real election reform is pushed from Trump / Congress down onto the states, and is actually done correctly, we’ll see a massive shift in official election results. There might only be a handful of actually “blue states,” and those will be heavily dominated by the deep blue cities.
For context, a R precinct officer in my LD (mostly in King County) walked his precinct after an election a few years ago and asked all the people the data said were “lean” or “”strong” Republican notes why they hadn’t voted in the most recent election, according to ballot tabulation data. Fully 70% of them said they HAD voted, and mailed the ballots in. There was ZERO interest in any sort of investigation by anyone who you would expect to have an interest. I suspect that some mail carriers who pick up mail on their rout in heavily R areas round-file any ballots they find, especially if they have observed mail indicating a “likely R home.” Yes, that is illegal, it’s also the sort of thing that is Dem stock-in-trade.
I have a hard time believing you don’t realize how easy it is to do a poll and how often private polls are done. Haven’t you heard of internal polling? And how these polls could be used to show the public polls (and election results) are invalid? You could even do your own poll over the course of a few days. Call 10 people an hour, eight hours a day, for five days and you have data that would bring to light the big election cheaters.
Who “controls” these polls? And if there were efforts to control them then why doesn’t someone talk about control efforts? Everyone can’t be in on the conspiracy.
Yes, you can do a poll. The formal mainstream polls that make the news don’t publish their raw numbers, they always try to get a “balanced” sample, or they weight their raw results by what they say are the representative demographic sizes of dem/repub, male/female, etc. To get it professionally done with a valid sample size (generally over 1,000 people), valid question phrasing, etc. and it’s not cheap. Many of them use leading question, or invalid sampling contact lists, or skewed weighting. They don’t have to skew it a lot, just enough to push public perceptions. I came across sever stories about internal Trump polling this last time saying Harris was never in the lead. High quality Internal political polls are almost never published. The Rasmussen polls this last cycle were better than most, but even then they undercounted Trump support.
So I’m not claiming there are no good or accurate polls. I am claiming that the vast majority of MSM-published polls are primarily done and pushed (or not) to shape public opinion rather than reflect it.
You are shifting the subject. I want to know why somebody hasn’t released some poll results which indicate the magnitude of the fraud. Or, alternately, some set of whistleblowers who tell us who “controls” the polls and/or how they falsity the polls, and/or accurate poll results. That would confirm the hypothesis that there is widespread fraud in the elections.
I’ve heard from numerous people, some of whom actually participated in election fraud, about the fraud. But it probably wasn’t widespread enough to account for more than a percentage point or three. This would not be clearly detected in a poll. 10 or 20 points would be easily detected. And that was the type of thing required to push the 2020 election with just a few counties affected.
Only old people, and not all of them, answer their phones when caller ID shows an unknown number. This alone will bias your result.
Of course, the only real law is “might makes right”. Survivors write the history. But parasites cannot survive without a host, so *somebody* has to make food. So, utilimately the survivors are people who work and produce. Such people quickly tire of the massive drain on production called war, and will eventually establish systems of stylized war, like voting, to avoid killing each other for awhile.
But all such systems work only when everyone understands that they can’t just “win” by “might makes right”, because they other side has demonstrated that they’re good at killing people too. So…
People will fairly count votes, and abide by the result, *only* when they understand that their opponents are dangerous. That understanding has been lost, perhaps for good reason. We’ll soon see.
This probably won’t format correctly, but the Bellwether Counties are the best evidence that there was something hincky about the 2020 Presidential Election.
Did County vote for winner of Presidential Election – Yes or No?
County 1980 1984 1988 1992 1996 2000 2004 2008 2012 2016 2020 2024
Valencia County, New Mexico Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Vigo County, Indiana Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Ottawa County, Ohio Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Westmoreland County, Virginia Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Washington County, Maine Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Essex County, Vermont Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Hillsdale County, Michigan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Crook County, Oregon Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Mason County, Washington Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Lincoln County, Wisconsin Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Juneau County, Wisconsin Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Sawyer County, Wisconsin Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Oconto County, Wisconsin Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Marquette County, Michigan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Van Buren County, Michigan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Monroe County, Ohio Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Mercer County, Pennsylvania Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Northumberland County, Pennsylvania Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Clallam County, Washington Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No
All “Yes” except 18 in 2020 and one in 2024.
It’s interesting to think about how both sides have made ‘cheating’ accusations their political talking points. Is it possible that the whole conversation around election fraud has become more about narrative than actual evidence? Feels like the trust in our system is eroding in ways we don’t fully appreciate.
Electoral fraud is massive, ongoing and has been occurring for decades. It peaked…so far…in 2020 with the creation out of thin air of MILLIONS of fraudulent ballots for Biden. It was seen again in 2022 in places like Arizona etc. but on a smaller scale than 2020. It occurred again in 2024 in local races the left wanted/needed to win but they did not seek to install Harris over Trump. There are a number of plausible explanations for why the DNC did NOT commit massive fraud in the Presidential race. The best way to answer that question would be to ask it as part of the trials for fraud that we need to see happen. But I’m not going to hold my breath. The vote fraud machine is alive, well and waiting for the next instance when the DNC decides to use it. And unless deliberately dismantled it’s not going to go away.
The governors of PA and MI are plausible Presidential candidates in 2028 and didn’t want an incumbent Dem. Plus all the insiders knew Kamala was useless.
As I suspect the reason Harris didn’t get the 81 million votes that Biden got in 2020?
Not only were we watching this time.
But maybe Musk, Bezos, and some other elites decided to take-over the clown-world collapse that was about to take place. And keep the game rolling. I’m sure their versions of AI were a giant help in planning it all to.
Knowing Trump was truly ahead. Just hacked the voting machine system and set it straight.
Maybe even hedged some swing-states to give him an edge when he comes to power?
It’s a war. You got to be able to beat the enemy at his own game.
And everybody knew they were cheating. So, why not?
If you’re an intelligent elite rich guy, why would just sit by and watch a bunch of midwit tranny global clowns destroy everything you enjoy and work so hard for?
Seems the simple answer to me.
“I just want to crawl into my underground bunker in Idaho and come out as needed for sunlight, exercise and producing and gathering food.”
Good plan.
“I just want to crawl into my underground bunker in Idaho and come out as needed for sunlight, exercise and producing and gathering food.”
1) Light tubes to bring sunlight indoors
1b) UV lighting (also, see #3)
2) Weights, treadmill and stationary bicycle
3) Hydroponic gardening and indoor UV light gardening
4) A sign over the main portal: “Joe’s Hermitage.”
RE: Polls.
1) Who has landline phones anymore except old folks? And of them, who ever even answers calls?
1b) Lots of shoe leather and door knocking; add vetted and reliable pollers and competent statisticians and the only roadblock will be the media refusing to acknowledge, much less publish, the results. Could the internet have enough penetration to get around “media blockage”? Maybe, but probably not, at least not beyond the local, or maybe, regional. Until then “Polling” will be nothing more than a Media Run Consensus Manufacturing Industry; anyone with a 2.5 or better in two semesters of statistics could produce a poll to prove earth is neither flat nor a spheroid but a 13-sided irregular polyhedron.
Which takes us back to voting:
“…a R precinct officer in my LD (mostly in King County) walked his precinct after an election a few years ago …”
“…I suspect that some mail carriers who pick up mail on their rout in heavily R areas round-file any ballots they find,…”
The only fix for that cancer is mandatory Voter ID, polls open 24X7 for 24-48 hours and F2F Voting Only via paper ballots and open all-party poll monitoring. That won’t eliminate all fraud, nor simple incompetence, but it would keep it to manageable levels – dogcatcher and county council results will still, and always, be suspect, but national-level offices should be closer to “reasonably secure.”
The Constitution specifies states have responsibility for national office elections, but that might not preclude establishment of national standards for ballots, operating hours, verification of results; probably would require a constitutional amendment, which isn’t the place for a long paragraph of operating specifications, but if specs could be condensed to a few, or several, long sentences, could work.
“…I have essentially given up on legislative action to protect our RKBA,…”
True that. Until the Magic Nine unanimously proclaim “the last four words mean exactly what they say” and there exists a mechanism beyond gunfire in the streets to enforce the decision, legislative resolution is a dead end. Any gains in States 1 through 14, 21 and 35 will be eradicated by the leftist legislatures in States 17, 24, 32, 37b and 39, so the hodgepodge will persist. Technically, this is An Original “People’s Issue” and eventually, only The People can resolve it.
Now, having resolved all the problems, I’m taking Sunday off……
Of course the Dems cheated in the 2024 election. They just didn’t cheat hard enough.