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Standout details from the complaint include an RV stash and an attempted “boating accident.” Turns out ATF just sends a dive team, by the way. Freeman continued the Gravedigging tradition by asking his friends to unknowingly hold his hottest products and, unsurprisingly, this backwoods network collapsed the first time a lawman made a phone call.
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October 22, 2024
Obnoxii Civitati
Via a post on X by Chuck Petras @Chuck_Petras.
There are multiple lessons to be learned here. Here are the two most obvious to me:
- Don’t have your “boating accident” underneath a bridge in diveable waters.*
- Three people can keep a secret… if two of them are dead.
* If I recall correctly, in the book Breaking Blue (spoiler alert) a gun was disposed of in the Spokane River Falls. The river was diverted, incidental to gun retrieval, and the gun was recovered during the diversion.
In the classical use of a “boating accident” one should claim the accident occurred “somewhere” in a large and deep body of water, such as “somewhere in the Pacific Ocean”. This would reduce the risk of the ATF “sending a dive team” to demonstrate you lied to them. But Lake Michigan (22,405 square miles and 928 feet deep) or Lake Pend Oreille in Idaho (148 square miles and 1,158 feet deep) would be beyond the practical capabilities of almost all dive teams. Keep in mind the U.S. Navy does conduct acoustic underwater submarine research in Lake Pend Oreille and may have capabilities beyond what one might expect.
They are not going to confiscate guns and you can’t have a boating accident with your bank account.
Bank account? Actually…..
When it comes to the ATF.
We know they’re lying about having “laws”. They know they’re lying about having laws.
We know that they know they’re lying about having laws. And they know that we know they are lying about having laws.
We know they will murder you and your pets over the laws they don’t have.
They actually want to murder you and your pets over laws they don’t have.
So maybe we can all drop the ignorant facade that we are dealing with honest government? And start thinking more in the terms of our forefathers that fought to produce a somewhat honest government?
That being;
Well George, king or no, BFYTW.
You will have a hard time getting my guns with your cold, dead hands.
P.S. Dworshak is close to 650′ ft. deep most of the time, right?
Just wondering.
The entire surface of Dworshak is subject to substantial overwatch from 360 degrees… where the entire population is usually armed, and gunshots are just constant background noise.
Ya, I’m pretty sure that’s about the last place ATF is going to be trying to confiscate guns.
Way too many juicy targets to get a pat on the head and an atta-boy over.
Rather than doing a forced deep dive your ill equipped for, to look for guns in the bottom of the lake?
Where are those agents we sent up there last week.
Well, the locals report there still looking for guns in the bottom of the lake.
But we didn’t send them with dive gear? And their not trained to dive.
Ya, the locals were puzzled about that one too. But said we should be proud of their dedication.
Any group of “conspirators” will almost always consist of ONE conspirator and at least one undercover journalist….with the rest being agents from a variety of federal agencies.
The typical KKK meeting has one FBI agent, 3 FBI informers, 3 informers from other three letter agencies and Bubba from the gas station who is going to prison.
In the 1960’s it was common knowledge that if you are a radical group, the one advocating violent action was the Informant.
I presume the same is true online today.
It requires a bit more energy, a great deal more up-front planning, and probably the assistance of willing accomplices, but employing the services of a metal foundry, a la the ending of Terminator 2, would seem more foolproof. I doubt BATFE, or any government agency for that matter, has a dive team to deal with that, and given a large enough cauldron even the best criminalist or metallurgist would have trouble positively identifying your gun if it’s .003% of 500,000 Toyotas or a million Whirlpool refrigerators.
I sense a potential service business opportunity……
On the other hand, as Raymond Chandler had his protagnonist-narrator Philip Marlowe say in “The Big Sleep”,
“They won’t find anything. The Pacific Ocean is too close.”
The San Pedro Channel between Los Angeles and Catalina Island has a depth on average of 900 meters, or 558 feet.
A dive to that depth will require Helox and saturation diving, so they need a submersible, and unless you’re a big public figure, even a cache of 100 rifles may not be worth investigating.