It’s black it must be evil

We have long known that anti-gun people openly show their hatred for black rifles and handguns while sometimes giving lip service to tolerating rifles with light brown colors and silver colored handguns. But did you know they also have a bias against black ammunition too?

It’s true.

On March 12, 2013 the Board of Supervisors of the City and County of San Francisco passed an ordinance stating:

(a) Definition. For purposes of this Section, “Prohibited Ammunition” shall mean:
(1) Ammunition sold under the brand name “Winchester Black Talon,” or that has physical properties resulting in ballistics performance identical to ammunition presently or formerly sold under the brand name Winchester Black Talon; or,
(2) Ammunition designated by its manufacturer for purchase by law enforcement or military agencies only, unless other ammunition is available to the general public that has physical properties resulting in ballistics performance identical to such ammunition.
{b) Possession Prohibited; Exceptions. No person, firm, corporation or other entity may possess Prohibited Ammunition within the City and County of San Francisco…

It goes on to list exceptions for police, military, and a few other “special people”.

But how are you to know if your ammunition “has physical properties resulting in ballistics performance identical to…Winchester Black Talon”? They, sort of, have an answer to that:

The San Francisco Police Department shall prepare or cause to be prepared a public database of brands and product lines of ammunition meeting the definition of “Prohibited Ammunition” in subsection (a). Failure of the Police Department to create or maintain such a database, or the omission from the database of a particular brand or product line of ammunition otherwise qualifying as “Prohibited Ammunition, under subsection (a), shall not be a defense to or otherwise excuse a violation of this Section.

What? Even if your ammo is not in the database that cannot be used as a defense? Then how can you possibly know if you are breaking the law?

It gets even more interesting as C.D. Michel points out (emphasis added):

NRA’s lawyers then obtained this letter from the San Francisco Police Department (SFPD). The letter confirms not only that the the ordinance doesn’t ban hollow-point ammunition, in fact, the new ordinance applies to virtually no ammunition. The SFPD letter clarifies that ammunition must be “identical in all ways” to Black Talon in order to be prohibited under the new ordinance. Black Talon itself has been out of production for nearly two decades. Ammunition experts have reviewed the SFPD’s position, and confirmed that there is no current production ammunition that is identical in all respects or performs identically in all ways to the Black Talon cartridge. So the City’s ordinance basically applies to nothing – save for those few left over Black Talon cartridges that may still be in circulation.

This would all be funny, in a pathetic sort of way like laughing at the 10-year old kid so dimwitted they can’t tie his own shoes, if it weren’t for the fact that the imbeciles making this law can have you thrown in jail for six months and/or fined $1000 if you violate it.

In case you weren’t involved in the gun rights movement 20 years ago Black Talon ammo was on most of the television “news” shows with animations showing the expanded bullet behaving, and described as, “a buzz saw” going through a human body. Never mind that the twist rate of the barrel, for say 9mm, is on the order of one turn for every 18 inches of travel. Hence the bullet spin is so slow it it wouldn’t even make a single turn going completely through an average sized person, let alone act like a buzz saw.

My guess is that the San Francisco idiots were having drug induced flash backs and remembered “Black Talon” and decided to “do something”. The thing is that Winchester was just a little too fast for them. Those San Francisco law makers are more than a little slow. Winchester beat got the drop on them by about 20 years.

What happened, 20 years ago, was that as a result of all the negative publicity there were people in congress writing up bills to ban the ammo. This was the dark ages of gun ownership and there was a good chance they could have gotten the votes to do it. Of course the sales of Black Talon exploded but Winchester did what was probably the appropriate thing even though they had a hit product on their hands. They discontinued it. They then replaced it with what they called “Ranger” which was also “SXT”, just like the Black Talon ammo. This had the politically acceptable jacket color of copper instead of black. They also put “Law Enforcement” on the boxes but the gun shops were happy to sell it to you and probably even bumped the margins a bit in the process.

Winchester said the SXT name stood for “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. But the people in the gun shops would tell you it really meant “Same eXact Thing”.

The media and anti-gun legislators, dolts that they are, didn’t catch on. I don’t know if they were fooled by the politically correct coloring or couldn’t understand the meaning of “expansion” but they left the new ammo alone.

I have a strong tendency to buy banned books and guns. And it should be no surprise I also bought, what I thought would soon be, banned ammo. I still have a box of the evil Black Talon in 9mm I bought from Lance who was my local gun runner:


If the Board of Supervisors of the City and County of San Francisco want them they can come and get them. I’ll be glad to let them have the evil black bullets. I’ll keep the box and shell casings with me.

Update: Wikipedia has the story on famous shootings in which Black Talon ammo was used.


6 thoughts on “It’s black it must be evil

  1. Now you’ve done it, Joe. You let the secret out, and there will be efforts to “close the Evil Black Talon loophole.!”

  2. Wonder what other obsolete out of production rounds they’re going to ban next…

  3. Funny, I bought a couple of boxes of it also. Just because It was so awesomely awesome!

  4. You know, I remember all the hoopla about Black Talons as well. Which is why I bought 2-20 rd boxes of it in 10mm for my two 10mm 1911s. (One box is open, the other is still in its protective plastic shrink wrap.) Works out great. The Chip McCormick Power mags I have are 9 rounders, so with one in the pipe I have 10 rds loaded in each.

    I don’t think I’m in any danger though, I have no intentions of ever going to California, let alone San Fran.

  5. Ha! I remember the Black Talon. Wasn’t there another very similar panic in the 1980s? The story exploded all over the newspaper, TV and radio on the same day. The psh was about it being ‘teflon coated so it’ll go through a bullet proof vest and the teflon makes it armor piercing!’ I was a dumb kid still in grade school and I couldn’t figure out how a nonstick coating would make an expanding bullet armor piercing – especially when the teflon coating on a skillet could be accidentally scraped off if you used a metal spatula. I came to the conclusion that some grade schoolers were apparently smarter than some newsreaders and reporters.

    The other psh line was that it expanded with ‘razor sharp blades that made doctors afraid to use their fingers to probe a gunshot victim out of fear of being cut by the bullet and becoming exposed to HIV’ and later the newspaper had an embarrassing correction explaining that they couldn’t find a doctor to confirm what they had previously reported. I’ve always suspected that it was razor sharp as a metaphor for having a pointy edge and not literally as sharp as a razor. And, as was common at the time, it was repeatedly referred to as a “cop-killer bullet” as if they were little guided missiles for Gene Simmons gun in the movie Runaway.

    Of course, some politician immediately introduced a bill to ban them. Realizing that hack politicians would try to truncate my rights based on lies (and dumb lies at that), fear mongering and saturating the media made me understand that I need to be a vocal supporter of gun rights (even though I didn’t own a gun until decades later).

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