Quote of the Day
I don’t think you and I were ever in the position of, you know, asking grandfather, what did you do in the war, right? But if someone asked me that question later, I don’t want to go, well, I watched on TV and it was pretty cool, man.
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The people at the Kev Independent were just like asking that question over and over was like, “Why? Why are you doing that? Why?” It’s like, “Because I hate bullies.”
Ry Jones
November 2, 2025
If you don’t want to listen to the first 25 minutes to get the complete context the short story is Ry volunteers to drive “cars” (usually some sort of small truck or van) from Central Europe to Ukraine. They are configured as electronic warfare, command and control, medical transport, etc. You can participate via the fundraiser.
Ry was a huge technical and labor contributor to Boomershoot for many years.
Hats off to anyone willing to put their life on hold to displace half a world away to spend their time and risk their lives standing up for what they believe in. Whilst fighting the good fight. Is the situation complicated? Yes, thanks to Joseph Stalin’s heavy handed redrawing of borders. Does that excuse abuse of minorities or invasion of a neighboring country across internationally recognized borders? No! I’m still working to pay off my mortgage and can’t afford an extended “holiday” in central Europe. I’m grateful to those who stand up and fight. Not all who contribute to the war effort pull triggers and dig trenches
Didn’t listen, I’m sure it’s an interesting story. And a good adventure.
But the whole Ukraine/Russian war was created, orchestrated, planned and paid for by the USA. (On borrowed money I might add. From whom is a whole other can of worms.)
So, we/I have all had a giant part in that war.
As for bullies? You can’t find a bigger bullies than western governments.
And all we did was enable Raytheon execs. to fly their mistresses first class to Europe for weekend flings.
Oh, and murder a whole generation of Ukrainian youth for fun, profit, graft, and extortion.
Putin is doing a whole lot less than we would if China was using Mexico to stage troops and nuke tipped missiles on our southern border, against treatise/agreements we had repeatedly made and warned them not to break.
And the idea that you could beat Russia in their own back yard is insane. (As the elites have been trying that for 200+ years now and failed every time.)
But that’s why we installed a crossdressing half-faggot comedian as the president of Ukraine. (Who’s campaign promise was to not go to war with Russia.)
What’s truly sad is that the real fight is here in America. Cause when we fall, Russia is going to get it all of Europe for the taking.
Sorry Ry, good effort. just misplaced in my view.
The US, yes but the NATO Euros are worse.
Early on, my assessment was, “Not our ally, not our business. Let our allies decide which, if any, side to take. Sell weapons to our allies in the area.”
Then it was, “Truth is the first causality in war.” There are so many things I “hear” just don’t sense.
“It’s about Ukrainian Nazis.” It’s about the Ukrainian Jewish President.” Huh?
“It about the Ukraine government killing Russian speaking Ukrainians.” But almost all Ukrainians speak Russian. And wasn’t the fighting in the Ukraine equal parts rebels attacking the Ukrainian government?
Faggot president? How does this matter unless he is kidnapping and molesting kids from your country? Jewish? So what? Not an issue of concern to U.S. interests.
What does make sense to me is that a book I recently read, and I don’t have the time to look it up right now, said Russian social media operators were putting out lots of conflicting stories. The different stories were designed to appeal to the biases of different social groups. It doesn’t have to make sense as a whole. It just has to cause division and confusion.
Now, I look at the situation and say, “The locals probably know best.” And the countries next (and even next plus four) in the row of potential dominos are arming up and sending weapons, supplies, and intelligence to the Ukraine. They are enforcing sanctions against Russia. None of our allies are supporting Russia. And many are doubling their military budgets in response.
The whole “protecting Russians people in Ukraine” with a false flag operations thing is straight out of Hitler’s playbook. He used that ruse in Austria, and I think elsewhere.
I still think the U.S. government has no business spending money in the war. Let our defensive (war material) contractors sell slightly less than top of the line weapons to our allies to give to the Ukraine sound like a good way to improve our economy. Individuals supporting either side is fine as long as they are open about it. Spies against our interests get treated harshly.
All Good.
And what is known about the whole screw-ball affair is that Russia has been trying to be like the west in an economic sense, since the collapse of the soviets.
And that NATO and the west have held them up as the baba-yaga, so as to have an excuse for their own existence. No enemy, no need for all the hardware, right?
Words were given and hands shaken that NATO would not move one inch east if the soviets collapsed. Repeatedly violated.
Everyone knew that Russia was NEVER going to give up it’s only warm water port on the black sea. Crimea.
And that they would fight to keep it.
Then Joke Biden was installed as our president. And everyone knew he was nose deep in Ukraine and corrupt as any politician can get.
Also nose deep is Victoria Newlan, the closest thing we have to the angel of death.
Putin has had repeated press conferences with open western media and has taken all questions, spoken very plainly about not having NATO troops and missiles that close to his capital. As he would not be able to defend Russia against them being that close.
We proved him correct by firing NATO missiles from Ukraine directly into his infrastructure.
Is Putin a nice guy?
You can’t be a nice guy and rule the Slavic people.
Nor can you be a nice guy and defend the Slavic people against the most tyrannical self-entitled elitist snobs the world has ever seen.
Propaganda? Everywhere and always. But some of the worst is that the west are the white-hats here.
We drug-murder a 100,000 plus of our own people a year. Cut off little boy’s dicks. And steal whatever we see, from whomever we want.
Henry Kissinger said that be our enemy was bad, to be our ally was fatal.
In the end war is always about who gets what.
We started the Ukraine war by crossing every redline Russia had laid out. And spent close to 200,000 million dollars to prosecute it.
What are the elitist’s trying to buy here?
The idea that it’s all being done for Ukrainian freedom is the real propaganda here.
Of that I’m positive.
Oh, and I only called Zelensky a half-faggot, you called him Jewish.
When I’m asked which side I took in the Russians vs nazis, I’m ok with saying I stayed out of it.
I wasn’t just referring to your comment but to the greater Internet social discourse.
Please incorporate the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances into your assessment.
https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMi1jb3B5_ccf1753a-fee6-4e3e-996a-c639d301d0e2
Yup, and all that in exchange for NATO not moving one inch east.
And what was Ukraine going to do with the giant arsenal they couldn’t maintain? Except use it as a bargaining chip?
But I digress.
How many treaties and agreements has America made all over the world that we have no problem violating whenever it no longer suits us?
From the American Indians to across the entire globe.
Look at what they do to us on a daily basis. They got you digging a bunker. Think they aren’t doing worst to Russia, their biggest enemy?
And as you say, the Ukrainians mostly speak Russian as well.
At the same time our own government is invading us with how many different people that speak how many different dialects? Over the dead bodies and impoverishment of how many of our own people and laws?
And half our country is up against the second stage of the 2A trigger because our government doesn’t give a crap what contract you/they signed afore.
Putin said it best when telling the rest of the world the west is “agreement incapable”.
And I just can’t bring myself to blame him for defending his people from us.
Were a mess.
Are you saying the US and UK should violate this agreement because they violated other agreements?
” U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).”
All we have to examine is the agreement of our government to abide by the 2A to see whom they are willing to betray.
Anybody. Any time. Any way it suits them.
Who has been influencing Ukraine? Zelensky/Putin had a peace agreement that Boris Johnson sculled in Minsk before the war started.
Your link didn’t show the agreement. And didn’t that only refer to oral remarks, which applied only to East Germany (not Poland, Hungary, etc.) and were never formalized?
Here, see if this works.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/node/4552
I’m not much for linking things.
But at the previous link.
The Budapest memorandum 1994 After 30 years.
I found stuff of interest. But nothing that looks like an agreement to me. I did a bunch more research and a lot of reading. Rather than try to respond here. I made it tomorrow’s QOTD. Look for it at 6:00 AM our time tomorrow.
Please provide a citation for the “not one inch” commitment.
I respect Ry’s willingness to put his actions where his opinions are, but on this I think he is misguided. All helping the UKR military will do is drag out their inevitable loss and get even more of them killed. Not having NATO missiles in UKR aimed at Moscow is just as existential to them as the Cuban Missile Crisis was for us. It’s an absolute non-negotiable, a thing they can’t just ignore, and DC has proven itself agreement-incapable, so it has to be forced. If after the fall of the Iron curtain, NATO disbanded, or didn’t expand, we wouldn’t be here. But the NeoCons kept pushing, kept expanding, kept poking the bear to keep war going. Can’t have Military-Industrial Complex profits without Orwell’s never-ending war.
UKR is already north of 1.7M dead and missing. The non-Christian enemies of the West rub their hands with glee at the body-count of draftees sent into the meatgrinder.
And you believe Russia would not have started rebuilding its empire within a few years of the disbanding of NATO?
Correct. They’d been exhausted by decades of communism, then a period of chaos and oligarchs playing to western interests and money. They’d have spent decades in recovering and regrouping and just having a few comforts and normalcy if we’d not provided them a common enemy to unite against. They are prospering economically, and they are proud of their nation, because they can unite in hate against the governments encroaching on their borders.
Then why do almost all of their neighbors think otherwise?