A top-of-the-line Russian nuclear-powered submarine has gone missing from its harbor in the Arctic along with its rumored “doomsday weapon,” according to multiple reports.
NATO has reportedly warned members that Russia’s Belgorod submarine no longer appeared to be operating out of its White Sea base, where it has been active since July. Officials warned that Russia may plan to test Belgorod’s “Poseidon” weapons system, a drone equipped with a nuclear bomb that Russia has claimed is capable of creating a “radioactive tsunami,” according to Italian media.
The drone can be deployed from the submarine at any time and detonated at a depth of 1 kilometer near a coastal city. Russian state media has claimed the device can create a 1,600-ft. wave that smashes into the coast and irradiates it.
October 3, 2022
Russian nuclear submarine armed with ‘doomsday’ weapon disappears from Arctic harbor: report
[A fallout shelter in Idaho is looking very good to me right now.—Joe]
That’s interesting, but of course even today’s politicians would know to respond with a nuclear barrage on Moscow if such a thing were set off on the US coast.
I call BS on this. The energy to cause a 1600 ft wave would be immense. Think of the energy released by huge undersea landslide and it gives at most 30 to 40 ft wave. And it is across a large area. This would me more point source. There is also the directional issue. The energy of an underground landslide is directed in a single direction. A nuclear explosion would be in all directions so the energy spreads out more. Could it cause a large wave and damage a coastline – yes, a 1600 ft wave, no.
Far from all the landslide energy goes into the displacement of water. A large portion of the nuke energy will be turned into a steam bubble. As the bubble rises it will expand due to the lower water pressure. This will displace the water even more.
I haven’t done the numbers but I see the nuke as putting a lot of energy into a relative low loss spring. The landslide energy is dissipated in internal friction.
I would be interested to see it tested… someplace other than near a populated coastline.
Just take a look at some of the nuke testing that was done in the Pacific atolls. They had ships at anchor and only the ones extremely close to the explosion sank. Granted, the bomb was not as deep since it was inside an atoll but the wave created was not that damaging either. There were observers sitting on the beaches of the atoll watching the explosions. A 1600′ high wave would need an enormous amount of compression as the shock wave moved the water over the continental shelf and the compressing energy would dissipate significantly as the radius from the blast increased. I look at this as more propaganda than anything.
OK, did a little reading which I should have done earlier rather than running from memory. Check out Wikipedia info on Underwater Explosions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_explosion ). Apparently there was considerable research done during the nuke testing of the 40s and 50s. Several fairly deep test were done. An effect of the water pressure was named Rayleigh–Taylor instability. In essence, the bubble formed by the explosion is restrained by the significant water pressure. The pressure actually causes the bubble to collapse in about one second. The bubble then rebounds in expansion but with about 40% less energy. Eventually it dies out.
There is an interesting similar effect that can be seen when bullets are fired from a handgun under water. The expanding gases from the barrel behave in a manner similar to both nuke and conventional underwater explosions where the initial bubble is too deep to break the surface of the water on its initial creation.
Some back of the envelope calculations says that a 1600 foot high wave, one mile from the center, would take a 90 kT bomb, which is more than the yield ranges usually assigned to “tactical” nuclear bombs. And that’s assuming the entire yield goes into lifting the water into that wave, which of course is not even close to accurate.
Thanks for doing the calculations.
Interesting concepts. And it would only have to knock out LA harbor to wipe out huge chunk of our economy/supply line.
Another problem is we think in tit-for-tat measures. He won’t just hit us in one place then wait to see what we do back.
He will either go big, or not at all. And since we have one foot in the grave, and the other on a banana peel already. Look for sabotage to help push us over the edge. And Bidens been hard at that since he stole the office.
So maybe Putin will just sit back and watch the show?
Were the ones that will be running out of everything. And this winter is going to soften up the west like nobody’s business. Especially Europe.
The German army has shipped out so much ammo it only has two days fight in it.
All we have is money. And when there’s nothing to buy with it? We find it’s true value.
Why nuke us? The great reset is doing that for him. The WEF is looking for someone to blame it all on.
I’m not sure if Putin will take the bait. But if he does. A tsunami bomb will only be one part of it.
Maybe there’s a reason we’re not mentioned in Revelations?
I’m astounded that anyone is falling for this latest “I’m not bluffing” BS from the House of Putin. 1600 foot wave, and radioactive to boot? Dropped by a friggin’ drone???? From a submarine????? Folks are watching way too many Marvel comics turned into movies to give this even the slightest hint of credibility.
The reason the Belgorod submarine is no longer at its usual pen is because the big rubber decoy probably sprung a leak (poor maintenance, rats chewing on the rubber, etc. ) and they had to deflate it and take it in for repairs.
“The drone can be deployed from the submarine at any time and detonated at a depth of 1 kilometer near a coastal city. Russian state media has claimed the device can create a 1,600-ft. wave that smashes into the coast and irradiates it.”
So, the Belgorod sends out a big submarine drone with the bomb and detonates it some distance away, creating a 1600 foot wave. I assume the crew knows this is a kamikaze attack, since the pressure wave to create a wave of that height will crush the sub like a grape, even at standoff distance.
No. If this is the one I remember reading about a while back, the drone is basically an unmanned nuke sub. They could launch it off the coast of Tahiti, wait a few weeks, then have it detonate off Cape Cod. (East coast, because of the shallower and longer continental shelf, as well as higher pop density, would be a more attractive target for maxing body-count). The Russians have built and triggered bombs up to multiple MEGA-tons, and without any airborne payload weight or dimensional limits, it could be as big as they need it to be.
That is his ace-in-the-hole card if NATO/US tries to get cute in Europe. Sometime this winter, RUS will hand NATO/US their asses in/near/around UKR. RUS realizes things are moving to the “existential threat” level around UKR, but so does the Deep State / Cabal / Globalists / Banksters / [or whatever you what to call them]. Whoever loses the UKR ceases to exist. The GAE (Global American Empire) is near the end of the Ponzi Scheme, and Russia and her few allies are the only international force that can block them from total (under-the-table) world control.
Who knows what’s true anymore. But these two things we can be certain of:
The US and NATO have made it clear, in writing, that they intend to “decolonize” Russia, to cut it into pieces. They have no response to loss, other than to double down.
When Russia believes that it’s survival is in question, it will use *everything* it has to ensure that those who have done that to them, will also lose.
Russian state media has claimed….
‘Nuff said, right there.
Russian state media is even more in the pocket of their current administration than the American media is in ours. And that’s saying something.
It doesn’t automatically mean they’re lying, but it can’t be seriously considered as evidence of truth, either.
Do the Russians have a nuclear underwater drone they can detonate off the coast of an urban area? Probably. Will it cause a 1,600-foot irradiated wave capable of destroying said urban area? As the saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
And the say-so of state media ain’t it.
“Russian state media has claimed….”
Actually Western MSM claim that Russian state media has claimed..
This is like playing telephone where everyone is deliberately lying.
Fair point. I can’t trust the American media to properly translate a document already written in English, so how could I possibly trust them to properly translate a claim made by Russian state media … in Russian?
And that’s assuming they give honest effort to report accurately, which is another thing they’ve proven themselves untrustworthy to assume.
The size of the weapon is less important than where it would be detonated. Creating a tsunami doesn’t just require energy. It requires the land on the ocean floor to be the right shape/slope.