Quote of the day—Gary Kleck

News accounts of 23 shootings in which more than six people were killed or wounded and LCMs were known to have been used, occurring in the United States in 1994–2013, were examined. There was only one incident in which the shooter may have been stopped by bystander intervention when he tried to reload. In all of these 23 incidents, the shooter possessed either multiple guns or multiple magazines, meaning that the shooter, even if denied LCMs, could have continued firing without significant interruption by either switching loaded guns or changing smaller loaded magazines with only a 2- to 4-seconds delay for each magazine change. Finally, the data indicate that mass shooters maintain such slow rates of fire that the time needed to reload would not increase the time between shots and thus the time available for prospective victims to escape.

Gary Kleck
June 1, 2016
Large-Capacity Magazines and the Casualty Counts in Mass Shootings: The Plausibility of Linkages
[The next time someone claims society needs to ban standard capacity magazines because of mass shootings tell them the facts do not support their hypothesis. Then ask them, “What is the real reason you want to ban them?”

H/T to Matthew Carberry‏ @CarberryMatthew via a Tweet.—Joe]


4 thoughts on “Quote of the day—Gary Kleck

  1. Since the anti-gunners I talk to (as infrequently as I can) would not respond to such logic, if they espouse the desrie to ban my standard caps, my response would be, “Fvck you. Come and take them.”

    When the 2019 mag ban in Washington State falters in the legislature, Hanauer, Gates & Co. will make sure it gets on the ballot through the initiative process. And we’ll lose again, because all the groups we pro RKBA send money to will sit on their hands, again.

    I’d like to see if we could get a Constitutional Carry initiative going next year. Would never pass, but at least it might distract the big money boys and the hand wringing liberals enough to stop them from pushing their agenda so hard.

  2. Gary Kleck is and for a long time has been doing great work debunking the lies of the gun grabbers. The problem of course is he is preaching to the choir.
    To the gun grabbing left a fact is only a fact if it supports their agenda. If it doesn’t then it’s ignored. They WANT WHAT THEY WANT and they will not
    accept no for an answer. The gun grabbing left is NOT going to go away, they are NOT going to quit trying to disarm us and they are NOT going to change their minds based on any evidence, logic, facts or rational. They WILL however gladly kill anyone who opposes them if necessary. There is a war ACTIVELY going on RIGHT NOW in America. And that war has already gone hot…..we are seeing more and more stories about the cops who are OWNED AND PAID by the commie libs in power killing unarmed people and shooting the “good guy” at crime scenes….and doing so with impunity. This problem isn’t going to go away.
    It’s only going to get worse.

  3. I once had a conversation with a former colleague who argued that it was nonsensical to have LCMs as well as firearms, such as AR-15’s that “can shoot hundreds of rounds a minute” in civilian hands. My question to him, for which he had no answer was:

    “It’s 2:00 AM. Three masked men have just kicked in the front door of your home. Their intent is to murder you immediately, then gang rape and murder your wife and daughters. How often do you want to reload, and how slowly do you want your weapon to fire?”

    • A rational question regarding a home invasion. The
      average lib lefty gun banner suffers from normalcy bias
      alongside all the other mental baggage they suffer from.
      Virtually ALL of them will reply ” That doesn’t happen here,
      MY HOUSE will never get invaded”. The typical leftist
      has NEVER seen real violence up close and personal.
      It ALWAYS is something that happens somewhere else to
      someone else and they hear about it on the news etc.
      They refuse to believe it could happen to them therefore
      they don’t need a gun…..and by extension they refuse to
      believe anyone else they meet will be a victim and therefore
      don’t need a gun either. Throw in the not insignificant numbers
      of these morons who truly believe that it is better to DIE at the
      hands of a criminal than to defend themselves with lethal force
      and you have a perfect storm of insanity opposing rational

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