A contrast in news reporting

The Florida legislature passed a bill that basically says you can use deadly force when confronted with deadly force.  Previously the law said you must first try to retreat before you can use deadly force to defend yourself.  The way new reports put a spin on this is interesting.  First is from Agence France-Presse worldwide agency via Yahoo:

Florida eyes allowing residents to open fire whenever they see threat

MIAMI (AFP) – Florida’s legislature has approved a bill that would give residents the right to open fire against anyone they perceive as a threat in public, instead of having to try to avoid a conflict as under prevailing law. 

Outraged opponents say the law will encourage Floridians to open fire first and ask questions later, fostering a sort of statewide Wild West shootout mentality. Supporters argue that criminals will think twice if they believe they are likely to be promptly shot when they assault someone.

Republican Governor Jeb Bush, who has said he plans to sign the bill, says it is “a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue.”

Current state law allows residents to “shoot to kill if their property, such as their home or car, is invaded by an unknown assailant.”

But it also states that if a resident is confronted or threatened in a public place, he or she must first try to avoid the confrontation or flee before taking any violent step in self defense against an assailant.

The bill, supported by the influential National Rifle Association, was approved by both houses of the Republican-run legislature on Tuesday.

Compare that to The Tallahassee Democrat:

House passes self-defense bill

Measure heads to Bush, who says he’ll sign


The House voted overwhelmingly Tuesday for a self-defense bill aimed at letting armed citizens “stop violent crime in its tracks,” removing the legal presumption that people should back away from deadly confrontations if they can.

Gov. Jeb Bush said he will sign the measure (SB 436) when it reaches his desk. He said some early concerns among state attorneys and law-enforcement agencies had been worked out in the legislative process.

Some urban Democrats offered a series of ill-fated amendments on the House floor, trying to limit the bill to people in their homes and cars. Rep. Dan Gelber, D-Miami Beach, futilely argued that allowing deadly force in a barroom brawl or street confrontation would result in innocent bystanders getting killed or maimed.

“For a House that talks about the culture of life, it is ironic that we are devaluing life as we are in this bill,” Gelber said. “It legalizes dueling. It legalizes fighting to the point of death, without anybody having a duty to retreat.”

But Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, said the bill would allow people only to use “appropriate” force.

“You can only do what somebody does to you,” Baxley said. “What this does is allow law-abiding citizens to stop violent crime in its tracks.”

The bill’s protection would not apply to robbers, drug dealers or anyone else who might claim self defense while using a gun to defend a criminal activity. Shooting at police who properly identify themselves while entering a home or removing a driver from a car would also not be protected under the bill.

Passage was never in doubt. Overwhelming majorities in both chambers co-sponsored the bill, and the proposal cleared the Senate unanimously last week. The House voted 94-20 on it, with Reps. Loranne Ausley, D-Tallahassee, Curtis Richardson, D-Tallahassee, and Will Kendrick, D-Carrabelle, all voting for it.

Baxley said members of the Florida Cabinet, the Florida Sheriffs Association, Police Chiefs Association and Florida Police Benevolent Association supported the bill. To speed the measure to Bush, the House substituted the Senate-passed version by Sen. Durrell Peaden, R-Crestview, for Baxley’s identical House bill.

Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, warned that the bill “will possibly turn the state of Florida into the O.K. Corral.” Rep. Joyce Cusack, D-DeLand, asked members to “think of the message that we are sending our children – that if you feel threatened, you can kill someone.”

But supporters of the bill said the same arguments were heard in the late 1980s, when Florida adopted a law allowing law-abiding residents to get concealed-weapon permits. Despite predictions that crime would increase, backers of the new bill said the law has not resulted in wild shootouts.

“I think this bill values life,” said Rep. Don Brown, R-Defuniak Springs. “It values my life when some criminal tries to impose his will on me.”

Rep. Bill Galvano, R-Bradenton, said police and prosecutors could still apprehend people who use unreasonable force. “What is being removed is the duty to retreat,” he said.

Bush said “we vetted the bill” and he was satisfied that it would not make Florida a dangerous place to live.

“I’m comfortable that the bill is a bill that relates to self-defense,” Bush said. “It’s a good common-sense, anti-crime issue.”

Interesting, huh? The French press tries it’s best to present the (soon to be) law as shoot first and don’t worry about answering questions ever. It’s not that at all. It reflects the reality of violent confrontations. They are fast as well as violent. You don’t have time to think or look around for a means of retreat. The aggressor chooses the time and place of the attack they are not going to give you realistic options to submission–unless you bring those options, such as a handgun, to the encounter unbeknownst to them.

Of course this reminds me of a joke about the French military:

Q: Do you know the most common injury in the French military?
A: Sunburned armpits.


2 thoughts on “A contrast in news reporting

  1. Good Joke! I can only hope my state follows suite. We need a carry conceal law here. The punks here are so sure that they won’t be shot by a private citizen on the streets. They do as they please…with our police force overwhelmed…a recipe for disaster for an unarmed person. As it stands right now, your job has to show a need for armed defense before a permit is issued. I am an aircraft mechanic…not much need to shoot a bad airplane ( although I have wanted to shoot a few to put them out of their misery!) My wife and I both could use a handgun clinic before we would carry but the option would be nice.

  2. Actually, the best part of the new bill for me (a Fl. resident and CCW holder) is the fact that the goblin has no right to action in a civil court.

    The state is pretty easy on ya (except for the blue county’s Dade, Broward and W P Beach). The ability to take you to civil court was the back breaker. Now that that is gone the pressure is off.

    Hell most of the shootin down here is done by goblins to goblins. And that can’t be all that bad- huh?

    sunburned armpits I like that one…


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