Comment backup

I’m backing up this comment here in case “Reasoned Discourse” breaks out over there.

Gun ownership is a specific enumerated right. Driving a car is a privilege.

Gun ownership is much closer compared to freedom of religion. We don’t, and can’t legally, require all the Jews, Catholics, and Muslims to register, pass tests, and register all their religious books. And so it is with the right to keep and bear arms.


13 thoughts on “Comment backup

  1. Driving is still a protected right by the 9th and 10th amendments unless you can show me where the Feds are specifically empowered to license and regulate it.

    The anti-federalists warned about people starting to think that rights specifically mentioned in the Bill of Rights becoming our only rights in time and were opposed to naming them (and feeling it was unnecessary to name them in any case.)

    • Only federal driver’s license I ever got was from the Army, for military vehicles, owned by teh taxpayers, and driven on federal duties. . .

      Ordinarily, DLs are issued by STATES, which the 10th Amendment doesn’t prohibit.

      Nor is a requirement to have a valid state issued driver’s license amounting to a prohibition of traveling without government permission — it’s a prohibition against operating a motor vehicle on government roads without that permission. You are free to ride those roads as much as you like, even if your driving license was taken away from you — as long as someone else is driving. (Whether or not it’s legitimate for the states to require such a license before using their roads is a different story — but you are free to build your own parallel private road network with private funds ENTIRELY on private land, and set whatever rules YOU like for its use, if you like.)

  2. I see Joe’s comment now. Attempted to add my own:

    Simply registering people isn’t enough; we need to make sure that everyone they interact with knows they’re dealing with a gun owner. Probably the best way to implement this notification is to require registered gun owners to attach a patch to their clothing.

    Making the patch in the shape of a gun might be frightening to some, Something more generic – like a star or triangle – would likely be best.

  3. Anytime you hear someone say “driving is a privilege” you can believe you’re dealing with someone who’s trying to take that right away. The “public transit” mob is deeply invested in making people believe this lie.
    The right answer is that the right to drive is simply a specific application of the right to move freely. And yes, of course there is no Constitutional authority for the federal government to interfere with this right. Unfortunately, none of the branches of the Federal government have either respect for or understanding of the Constitution.

  4. I have a big problem with the “You have a right to travel, but any method of personal transport more advanced than a bicycle is a Privilege” argument.

    Amazing, isn’t it, that she doesn’t consider ANY of her list of requirements to be ‘infringement’?

  5. I have a strong tendency to agree with the concerns about “driving as a privilege” concession. But I don’t want to get bogged down in something off topic that is not going to get a lot of traction. I prefer to let them have that point for now then go on the attack about the gun issue.

  6. Well. Both The Coquette’s and Veryon’s responses are arrogant, sneering, dismissive, and thoroughly devoid of logic. Aren’t we surprised.

    This description from her page is probably the only truth you’ll find there that’s not from a commenter: “Shady advice from a raging bitch who has no business answering any of these questions.”

  7. Where does the Constitution take away the states’ rights to license automobile drivers?

    • I don’t think it does, and I didn’t say so. State constitutions would be the ones to consult for that question.

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