# Saturday, March 29, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:21:39 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights | Politics )

Via a tip from the Apex of the Triangle of Death I discovered Kansas is considering allowing private citizens to possess suppressors, machine guns, and short barreled shotguns again. Here are some articles on it:

Here is the existing law. Here is the House bill that quietly repeals it. Here is the Senate Bill with which it must be reconciled.

The Kansas House approved this bill by a vote of 105-18!

And speaking of pack animals and conforming with the herd, this is from another news story on the Kansas class III issue:

The House gave final approval to a bill allowing dealers, manufacturers and private citizens to own machine guns, which would bring Kansas in line with all but a handful of states.

"I don't pass judgment on why people want to own anything — Mercedeses, mink coats, diamond rings, fully automatic weapons," said Rep. Candy Ruff, D-Leavenworth, a sponsor of the measure.

The emphasis is mine.

By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:36:16 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights )

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By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:22:40 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights | When Prophecy Fails )

The observation that most humans are "pack animals" and conformists leads me to conclude that in addition to having the obvious detrimental effects of forcing conformity to harmful and even dangerous beliefs there are ways this human characteristic can be exploited to the advantage of freedom loving people. In essence we need to align the pack norms with our principles rather than let the anti-freedom movement align them for us.

I haven't read it, but I suspect Groupthink: Psychological Studies of Policy Decisions and Fiascoes would be very insightful. In the absence of my doing the proper research here are my speculations on the gun issue and how we might take advantage of this human characteristic:

  • The more gun owners "come out of the closet" the more difficult it is for the anti-gun bigots to herd the pack in the desired direction.
  • The more times you take a new shooter to the range the less people there will be who accept the implied characterization by the bigots of all gun owners as actual or imminent criminals.
  • Every time you speak up when someone else is denigrating gun ownership you make it more difficult for others to agree with the anti-gun position.
  • Every time a piece of pro-gun legislation is introduced and/or passed it makes it harder for the anti-gun forces to introduce their legislation even if it is mostly unrelated to the pro-gun law. Hence getting a state preemption law passed (YEAH Mike!) helps prevent "assault weapon" legislation from getting a toehold. Another example would be a law requiring the ownership of firearms in one city throws into question a proposal in another state or city to limit gun ownership.
  • Every court ruling that says gun ownership, no matter how narrowly defined and incremental from the existing group think, is a right protected by the constitution it makes it harder for the bigots to get critical mass for restricting some other aspect of gun ownership.

We need to create a "pack" where gun ownership and freedom is the predominant viewpoint. When the forces of anti-gun bigotry and socialism are viewed with justified contempt the forces of freedom can then advance and turn back the terrible cloud hanging over our country and the world.

When Prophecy Fails also gives us insight and ideas for breaking people out of the pack

Are there any pro-freedom psychologists and sociologists out there that can contribute more on this topic?

By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:09:31 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Home Life )
By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:06:09 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Ballistics | Gun Rights )

I really like what Ronnie Barrett has to say here:

Be aware there are more companies that will respect this position. If Hawaii or any state bans the sale of the .50-caliber rifle, we will immediately stop the sale and service of all Barrett products to that state’s government agencies. We will also welcome all small arms manufacturers to take the same action.

He already stopped sales to California as did STI.

I did a similar thing with my restrictions on Modern Ballistics. But I have no way to enforce this when the downloads are free and essentially anonymous. Plus I have only received a couple hundred dollars for all the hundreds of downloads and usage of the product over the years. Any income I lose from adhering to my principles is measured in pennies.

While I greatly admire and encourage the Barrett and STI actions it is not my pocket book that suffers from this. I know other manufactures that simply cannot afford to refuse sales to California because of the volume of business they would lose.

By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:41:54 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Crap for brains | Freedom | Gun Rights )

Via an email from Kirby I get this link and story:

LARP fans at Bowling Green State University may have to contend with a crippled game of Zombies vs. Humans after the University banned Nerf guns on campus.

Nerf guns are banned???

I started poking around the University website to try and figure out what sort of place this is. I found this scary:

Established in 1910 to educate teachers, BGSU is the 14th largest producer of teachers in the country

They pride themselves on producing teachers and they think 18 year olds should not be allowed to have Nerf guns? I think some teachers of teachers need to be taught something. Perhaps some time at a reeducation camp would help. I suggest they start with the U.S. Consitution and the basics of a free society.

By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:06:40 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Politics | Quote of the Day )

Americans have a very low tolerance for differentness, whether it's racial, ethnic, or sexual.  Despite our rhetoric about individualism, we are a desperately conforming people.

Martin Duberman
[My QOTD from yesterday was on this same topic. As I was laying in bed last night I had a lot more thoughts on the topic and decided to make a post on the subject. When looking for a QOTD for today this one jumped out at me. I'll try to get the post out sometime this morning.--Joe]

# Friday, March 28, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Friday, March 28, 2008 1:16:35 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Boomershoot | Crap for brains | Current News | Politics )

Seattle and surrounding areas in the Puget Sound are now getting heavy snow. Visibility is only a few blocks as I look out the window of our building here in Redmond.

I'm fairly certain Al Gore would agree with me, and I know Phil does. It's all because of man caused global warming climate change.

Update: The storm forecast for the Boomershoot site:

OROFINO/GRANGEVILLE REGION-LOWER HELLS CANYON/SALMON RIVER REGION-

132 PM PDT FRI MAR 28 2008

...SNOW ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 5 AM PDT SATURDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MISSOULA HAS ISSUED A SNOW ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 5 AM PDT SATURDAY.

2 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING AS A COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH THE AREA TONIGHT. QUICK BURSTS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOWFALL WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE.

By: Joe Huffman Friday, March 28, 2008 8:14:54 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Politics | Quote of the Day | Sex )

The problem, it seems to me, is this. People are pack animals and they want -- need -- approval from the herd. So, forcing this one-size-fits-not-nearly-everyone way of life down everyone's throat is detrimental to everyone. Living a life that doesn't fit is miserable and that misery plays out in unhappy ways in people's lives.

Jenny Block
March 27, 2008
Open Relationships: What the World Already Has
[The pack animal observation applies to so many things that bug me about people. It is a huge component of the attacks on freedom. From gay rights and gun control to religious intolerance you will find this urge to conform and to enforce conformity playing a big part.--Joe]

# Thursday, March 27, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:19:39 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Boomershoot | Home Life | Quote of the Day )

I am not amused.

Xenia Huffman-Scott
March 27, 2008
Not amused
[Check out the picture she posted. There are two inches of new snow in Moscow, Idaho this morning. The Boomershoot site, already deeper in snow than I care for this close to the event, is at a higher altitude and probably got even more snow. This could be the year where Boomershooters get to practice long range shooting in "real world conditions" of mud and/or snow. For years Ry has been urging me to make the event more challenging by making people shoot prone from a mud pit mixed with ice and gravel while we hose them down with water. This year might be Ry's fantasy, without the gravel, come true with the help of Mother Nature. I'll bring Ry gravel for his shooting position.--Joe]

# Wednesday, March 26, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:39:12 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights )

Sebastian alerts us to this bigot. Comments are open and appropriate measures have been taken.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:06:49 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights )

H/T to Uncle.

Mangan is reading the Brady script to CNN this time (previous posts about Mangan):

ATF special agent Tom Mangan says the .50-caliber rifle has become one of the "guns of choice" for the drug cartels. The weapon fires palm-sized .50-caliber rounds that can cut through just about anything.

Mangan showed CNN the power of the rifle on a gun range near Phoenix, Arizona. The weapon, a Barrett, was seized in an ATF raid. A round fired from 100 yards away tore through a car door and both sides of a bulletproof vest like those used by Mexican police.

"There's nothing that's going to stop this round," Mangan says.

The rifle was intercepted as it was being smuggled into Mexico. Mangan says investigators believe four others already had passed through the border.

Watch the video to see and hear the emotional appeal these bigots invoke. What they don't seem to realize is all this is caused by the banning of recreational drugs. In other words, governments cause crime.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:23:24 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Boomershoot )

On Saturday Caleb and I visited the Boomershoot site to do some maintenance, explosive experiments, and to inspect the site.

The maintenance went fairly well. I discovered why one of the WiFi access points wasn't working. It will take another trip out there to verify my fix but I'm pretty confident it will work. The new inverter I had installed last fall didn't want to start up until after we fiddled with it for quite a while and I don't trust it. I'm going to get another one. And finally we installed a petcock on the pipe for our "well" so we could easily drain the water out of it.

The explosive experiments went well enough. We mixed up two batches of Boomerite. One was made with the old fertilizer grade ammonium nitrate. The other batch used the new explosive grade ammonium nitrate I purchased last June. We did a quick test with the new stuff last September and suspected it was not as sensitive as the older material. Our tests on Saturday confirmed those suspicions.

Using CCI Stinger .22LR ammo from about 65 yards the old would detonate reliable but the new would only detonate about one out of three hits.

Using American Eagle .22LR ammo at 12 yards the old would detonate about one out of three hits but the new would not detonate even one out of five or six hits. At 10 yards the old would detonate every time and the new only about one out three hits.

Our conclusion is to get the same probability of detonation the new material requires about another 10 fps of velocity. This is measurable but not a big enough deal to spend the effort to try and improve the mix.

The biggest issue I have concerns about is the condition of the site. It was five weeks from the big day (April 27th) and there are still drifts well over knee deep in places.


View of most of the target area and part of the .50 Caliber Ghetto.


This is the road leading into the parking area and a neighbor's car.


This is The Berm shooters use for prone shooting. That snow drift is probably two to three feet deep.


This is the hillside shooting area where targets in the 500 to 700 range are placed. There are some big drifts out there.


I'm really glad we paved the target construction area with concrete blocks last fall. This will keep us out of the mud.


This is the 375 yard target area. It is very, very wet and muddy.


Caleb next to one of the snow piles at my parents and brothers farm.


I spent some time talking to my brother about the ground conditions.

My brother Doug and I talked for a while about the weather. He is of the opinion it would take about three weeks of good weather to dry up to the point where they could start farming. If they can be in the fields we would have excellent conditions for Boomershoot. However, the weather forecast for the next ten days is for rain and cloudy weather. Therefore my best guess is that Boomershoot 2008 will be on the damp side. I'll visit the site again at two weeks and one week prior to the event and have better information. Attendees should have contingency plans for muddy ground unless I give a better report just before the event.


Caleb spotted ten wild turkeys as we were headed home.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:40:35 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Crap for brains | Politics | Quote of the Day )

To hear some men talk of the government, you would suppose that Congress was the law of gravitation, and kept the planets in their places.

Wendell Phillips
[I was reminded of this one by BillH's Hillary Is Delusional post.--Joe]

# Tuesday, March 25, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:30:43 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights )

Every once in a while I try posting a comment to Bryan Miller's blog. About two thirds of the time the comment does not appear. The following are my last two failed attempts.

This was in response to The Supremes and the 2nd Amendment:

It's also very instructive the Bryan does not answer any questions or engage the people that comment here. He merely makes his pronouncements and ignores the refutations of his claims. If he were to engage what I have found most useful in dealing with his type is to insist they answer Just One Question: "Can you demonstrate one time or place, throughout all history, where the average person was made safer by restricting access to handheld weapons?" I've been pushing this question for years without anyone being able to give a coherent answer they have been able to defend.

This was in response to Pennsylvania's murderous burden on New Jersey:

Or maybe the criminologist and sociologists who study criminals. Claims that restrictions on firearms make people safer are without a factual basis. If they did you would expect to see some benefit from Washington D.C.'s ban. But you don't. Even broader studies of less severe restrictions have been unable to find benefits.

So with so many "experiments" done with firearms restrictions with, at best, nothing to show for it in terms of public safety, what is your real reason for advocating such restrictions?

JadeGold, I'm not rotund, don't own a LaZBoy or similar type chair, haven't had a CheetoTM in months, and have never seen Red Dawn. Perhaps you were engaging in some projection.

The JadeGold comment I was responding to appears to have been deleted.

Update: The first comment above did ultimately appear. I had refreshed the page several times without seeing but I went back after seeing the comment from Rob (below) and it now shows up. Also, I updated my comment to make it coherent. [blush]

By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:08:37 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights )

Their website just went live today: FOS Ammunition.

They have .45 ACP, .40 S&W, and .223. They are IPSC shooters and are targeting other IPSC shooters with their offerings.

These are a couple of my shooting buddies so don't expect me to give them unbiased reviews.

By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:16:55 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom )

I sent out a couple emails using some "back channels" after I posted this. I wonder if it got someone stirred up:

Domain Name   usdoj.gov ? (U.S. Government)
IP Address   149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice)
ISP   US Dept of Justice
Location  
Continent  :  North America
Country  :  United States  (Facts)
State  :  District of Columbia
City  :  Washington
Lat/Long  :  38.9097, -77.0231 (Map)
Distance  :  2,071 miles
Language   English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System   Microsoft WinXP
Browser   Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; DOJ3jx7bf; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)
Javascript   version 1.3
Monitor  
Resolution  :  1024 x 768
Color Depth  :  32 bits
Time of Visit   Mar 25 2008 8:42:16 am
Last Page View   Mar 25 2008 8:43:03 am
Visit Length   47 seconds
Page Views   3
Referring URL http://search.yahoo....args=0&pstart=1&b=31
Search Engine search.yahoo.com
Search Words atf forfeiture blog
Visit Entry Page   http://blog.joehuffm...ThinkForfeiture.aspx
Visit Exit Page   http://blog.joehuffm...ThinkForfeiture.aspx
Out Click    
Time Zone   UTC-4:00
Visitor's Time   Mar 25 2008 12:42:16 pm
Visit Number   273,824

They are looking pretty deep because my blog was number 39 on the list of hits.

I just wonder if they will find it cause to demote or to promote.

By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:21:50 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Sex )

Dr. Joe's cure for everything for over 30 years is getting more attention. The details are here, but the overview is:

  1. Sex Relieves Stress
  2. Sex Boosts Immunity
  3. Sex Burns Calories
  4. Sex Improves Cardiovascular Health
  5. Sex Boosts Self-Esteem
  6. Sex Improves Intimacy
  7. Sex Reduces Pain
  8. Sex Reduces Prostate Cancer Risk
  9. Sex Strengthens Pelvic Floor Muscles
  10. Sex Helps You Sleep Better
By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:59:27 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights | Quote of the Day )

Now, I think this goes to the heart of the matter, because the gun-control advocates--it isn't so much that they are against guns; they're just against the idea of killing. Guns kill people. And there is simply no way the two sides are ever going to be able to come to terms. But I think the idea of gun control is going to die with this decision.

Dan Henninger
Wall Street Journal columnist and deputy editor
March 24, 2008
The Journal Editorial Report
[He was referring to the Heller case. He betrays his bias with the "Guns kill people" line and his belief that gun controllers are against killing. If they were just against killing they would recognize the fact that guns are used to protect innocent life far more frequently than they are used to take innocent life. But he gets it right that there is no coming to terms between the two sides and that there is a good chance that gun control is going die or at least have some serious health problems if this decision goes down like we think it will.--Joe]

# Monday, March 24, 2008
By: Lyle at UltiMAK Monday, March 24, 2008 6:24:55 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Crap for brains | Freedom | Politics )

I've written about this several times over the years, but it takes a true scholar to do a superior job of it.  A while back, Jonah Goldberg did just that, and Thomas Sowell did a review on Goldgerg's book:

Fascism, initially recognized as a kindred ideology of the left, has since come down to us defined as being on "the right" — indeed, as representing the farthest right, supposedly further extensions of conservatism.

The next time you hear Leftists throwing the word "Fascist" about like a general epithet, and then hanging it around the necks of capitalists or Jeffersonian liberals, you can correct their rather silly (and I have to think willfully ignorant) error.

By: Joe Huffman Monday, March 24, 2008 7:44:26 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Technology )

I've never had a big problem with automated traffic law enforcement as long as it was used only for enforcement of moving violations and not for general surveillance.

Now you can add another objection to my list of objections. From Dallas:

Citywide statistics obtained by NBC affiliate KXAS-TV found that red light cameras do reduce accidents. That is a good thing.

But they do it by reducing red light violations, by as much as 29 percent from month to month at particularly busy Dallas intersections. On the face of it, that, too, is a good thing — but not, necessarily, if you rely on traffic fines to make up a healthy chunk of your budget.

Dallas lawmakers originally estimated gross revenue of $15 million from their 62 cameras this fiscal year, which ends June 30. But City Manager Mary Suhm estimated last week that the city would fall short by more than $4 million.

So Friday, the city turned off about a quarter of the least profitable cameras, saying it couldn’t justify the cost of running them.

Yeah, I'm naive, I take things at face value. I actually believed traffic law enforcement was to reduce personal injury and property damage, not just a source of revenue. I don't recall ever believing in Santa Claus and having the myth shattered, but this must be what it feels like.

By: Joe Huffman Monday, March 24, 2008 7:29:18 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Sex )

I remember this sad woman that lived in the same condominium complex as Barb and I who each weekend seemed to have a different guy leaving her place in the early morning. She never seemed happy and we always figured it was self esteem problem and the pond scum she brought home didn't make the situation any better. Now some researchers have some data on women, depression, and sex. I wonder if the researchers investigated the self-esteem issue and if the "self medication" aspects of using sex for treating their depression benefited them in the long term. And of course they should also explore which, if any, was cause and which was effect. Or was it just correlation?

By: Joe Huffman Monday, March 24, 2008 7:14:45 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Boomershoot | Crap for brains )

Just go to Boomershoot. Don't set off dynamite on the sundeck of the hotel you are staying in. Not only do we do it legally and cheaper (considering all the damage they did, let alone the cost of the lawyers), we will detonate about 1000 times more explosives.

[H/T to Sean, Ry, and Glenn Reynolds.]

By: Joe Huffman Monday, March 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights | Quote of the Day )

The level of intensity in that courtroom defies description. The brain power those nine people brought to bear, on top of the months of prep from the litigants, was exhausting. Any more time than we spent would have been overwhelming. It’s a good thing it’s kept to an hour (and this case ran 38 minutes long, quite rare). You just fit everything in, then declare an ending.

Alan Korwin
March 20, 2008
D.C. v. Heller Eyewitness Report -- Analysis 1
[I wasn't there but the intensity comes through loud and clear from all the reports I've read and listened to. I was surprised at the extent of understanding of the issue. From English common law to the problems with trigger locks the justices were prepped as well or better than anyone I have ever met. To stand in front of the and defend a position would be very, very intense.--Joe]

# Sunday, March 23, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:32:24 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Politics | Quote of the Day )

Christmas is the time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell government what they want and their kids pay for it.

Richard Lamm
[This quote reminds me of a book I just finished listening to: The Coming Economic Collapse: How You Can Thrive When Oil Costs $200 a Barrel by Stephen Leeb and Glen Strathy. It has some interesting stuff in it. He claims we are headed for some very bad times, "Unless government does something." Of course this annoys me a great deal unless he means that government should stop meddling in the free market. Published in 2006 he correctly predicted $100/barrel oil when it was $60 and the DOE was predicting it would return to the $35 to $45 range. He said gold would skyrocket. He is saying that we could even see the collapse of civilization because of the shortage of energy and our large debt.--Joe]

# Saturday, March 22, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:06:51 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Politics | Quote of the Day )

If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.

Milton Friedman

# Friday, March 21, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Friday, March 21, 2008 9:47:57 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Current News | Gun Rights )

I met Alan Korwin at the Gun Rights Policy Conference in 1999 and 2000. I was very impressed both times.

Read what more on what he has to say about the Heller case.

By: Joe Huffman Friday, March 21, 2008 9:30:07 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Blog stuff | Boomershoot | Home Life )

Blogging will be light for a few days while I work on Boomershoot 2008 tasks. I give you Xenia as a substitute...

It's becoming a tradition. During Xenia's spring break we go to Portland, visit Powell's, I buy books on explosives, and we get Voodoo Donuts.

And, again, Xenia captures it in pictures.

By: Joe Huffman Friday, March 21, 2008 9:25:17 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Quote of the Day )

A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.

Barry Goldwater

# Thursday, March 20, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:48:12 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom )

Grrrrr... Even if the ATF and police didn't actually get the lawyer-client conversation tapes (I don't trust them to tell us the truth about this), that they admit to getting a list of the times and duration of the calls is unacceptable to me. Even if I don't have access to the actual content of your phone calls and email if I have all the other information the traffic analysis alone can reveal far more about you than you might want known.

By: Joe Huffman Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:40:12 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Current News | Gun Rights | Politics )

Throughout the Heller case I think most hard core gun rights activists have been thinking "Will this help or hurt machine guns? Even if the Supreme Court slaps D.C. down on handguns, rifles, and shotguns will they create a rule or test that slams the door on machine guns becoming commonly available?"

I've been, behind the scenes, asking people not to even talk about machine guns in the context of Heller. My thought was that if machine guns are ignored in the Heller decision, then if we do things right after a Heller win we can get some machine gun relief eventually. Obviously it came up in a big way during the oral arguments. Some people have been critical of Gura for "throwing machine guns under the bus" during the oral arguments. I am not one of them. I viewed it as unfortunate collateral damage. We needed to bomb the crap out of D.C. and they were holding machine guns as hostages. It was more important to destroy D.C. now than to try and figure out a way to get the machine guns to safety. We might still be able to resurrect machine guns, they aren't really dead, just on life support.

Now, via Uncle, I find Gura responds. I agree with him.

By: Joe Huffman Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:09:13 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights )

The following is from a reader regarding my post Slaves are about to be freed. He reveals that he and his family are so far unarmed but strongly support the RKBA. He lives in the California which puts a severe chilling effect on actually possessing firearms.

From: Rob 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:42 PM
To: Joe Huffman
Subject: Re: Your post: "Slaves are about to be freed "

 

Joe,

 

I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

I think we should start preparing to use a new weapon that we might well have in our arsenal by July. As with all new weapons we need to train with it and plan how to use it before we can use it to maximum effectiveness.”

 

I thought you were going to write about a newly informed populace and moreover, new shooters

 

The biggest thing we can have/build is numbers.  Politicians can read polls.  If we have the majority of folks behind us (as I think we do) we tend to win.  If we have repeated instances of the Kim du Toit happy dance for new shooters, then we have motivated people behind us. 

 

Numbers are what the Brady Bunch worked on for a long time, but they are in trouble because they are selling a negative – the momentum has shifted. 

 

The intermediate victory is that we have begun to sell gun ownership and carrying as a positive.  A place not to let up is the “Gun Free Zone” nonsense.  We need to make darned sure that private defensive use of firearms in such situations is responsible and underscored in the media as such.  The Brady Bunch has no answer for this.

 

People are the new weapon.  The most potent weapon is people who understand RKBA truth and wield it well - freed slaves, empowered private citizens.

 

I see the training as literal, for new shooters. (My little family - for example - will someday, God willing, be new shooters.  We are pro-gun and pointedly so, but not –yet- armed.)  The gun community needs to train train train,  Now is not a time for a blossoming of gun accidents because people do not know and strictly follow Cooper’s four rules.

 

When we add to our numbers (who this we unarmed white man?) we win.

 

When even those who do not choose to arm themselves are happy to allow us to do so, we triumph.

 

I think I hear the sound of triumph approaching just over the next hill.

 

Rob

All good points. I'm sure there are others that can be made. I just threw things together off the top of my head to get people started thinking. Please keep thinking and if you want it to have more visibility than a comment email it to me and I'll probably post it.

By: Joe Huffman Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:59:20 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Quote of the Day )

I have heard the bullets whistle; and believe me, there is something charming in the sound.

George Washington
After returning from a battle during the Revolutionary War.
[For a general he was quite the bad-ass. He had horses shot out from under him. His coat had numerous bullet holes in it. His accomplishments as a young officer were rather daring as well. To say that Washington was "highly regarded" by his men and country would be a huge understatement. My school history books did not do him justice.--Joe]

# Wednesday, March 19, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:58:47 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights )

I already told you what TSA really means.

Now Jed spills the beans on what ATF really means and the U.S. Government backs him up on it.

Scary stuff.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:00:51 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights )

H/T to Rob who sent me the link and made at least a tenuous connection to my previous efforts.

Jonathan Rauch. Does that name sound familiar to you? And if so what did he do for gun owners?

Okay, so maybe one out of 50 or 100 gun rights people will recognize it. You would have to be pretty hard core (potential pun material) to recognize his name and make the connection to gun rights.

So, Rauch just published an article in Reason: The Right Kind of Gun Rights--Why the D.C. case is about self defense. Before I tell you the first article he wrote which got my attention and ultimately nearly all gun rights activists here's the final clue--from todays article:

Yesterday, unbeknownst to itself, the Supreme Court heard arguments in a gay-rights case. To most people, admittedly, District of Columbia v. Heller is a gun-rights case. In fact, it's the most important gun-rights case in decades, one that may cast a shadow for decades to come. But to gay Americans, and other minorities often targeted with violence, Heller is about civil rights, not shooting clubs.

To put it all together, this is from the main page on the Pink Pistols website:

"Thirty-one states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible."

--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

Yeah, now you should remember. Jonathan Rauch wrote an article and the Pink Pistols spontaneously burst up out of nothingness and gives the gun hating liberals severe indigestion to this day.

Cool, you say. But so what?

What's interesting to me is that some other people and I had been trying for a year or two before Rauch wrote his article to get something going (see the Lewiston Morning Tribune and the Seattle Times) using the same concept. We didn't get much traction. Perhaps it was the wider distribution of his article. Or maybe it was just an idea whose time had finally come. Perhaps it was just the right person got the message and had better organization skills than we did. Or maybe Rauch puts his words together in some magic way. No matter. Rauch wrote a single article and did massive damage to those that would take our freedoms away from us.

Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword and Rauch demonstrated that in a big way.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:19:27 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Crap for brains | Gun Rights )

I had seen the graphics below before but just shook my head and went on. Reader Rob sent them to me today and pointed out it's self-parodying. They are from the main page of the Brady Campaign website.

In the first graphic they actually say guns murdered people. It seems to me if that is the case all those biologists trying to create and/or modify life in a "test tube" should be redirected to study common metals, charcoal forges, hammers, and drills. Apparently the secret to life was discovered with the invention of the first firearms four or five hundred years ago.

Okay, so maybe I was taking them a little too literally. But my point is they twist the meanings of words to achieve their goals. It is only by telling half-truths and sometimes outright lies that they can achieve political traction. We need to rub their noses in it in a very public manner.

In the second graphic they try to take advantage of a negative stereotype of the gun owner as a vandal who shoots up a sign. They also imply that disallowing guns makes a workplace safer. To test that hypothesis answer this question, "Which is a safer workplace, a maximum security prison or a police station?" Nearly no one has a gun in the prison (including the guards who are in contact with the prisoners) and almost everyone has a gun in the police station. Of course the police station is safer--because the people there are much more likely to be trustworthy people. It's the people, not the guns, that make the difference.

In the world view of the Brady bunch the concept of there being more than one variable that contributes to personal safety is too difficult of a concept. Guns have no will of their own and are tools that can be used for good or evil but making the intellectual leap from the gun to the person pulling the trigger is just asking too much of their feeble brains.

Either that or they have mental problems.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:05:12 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Technology )

Last night I wrote a simple encryption program. Basically it's "Encryption for Dummies". You can use it to encrypt text message such as email or even instant messages.

Here is the zip file: CryptLight_1_0_0_1.zip (225.56 KB)

Download it. Unzip it, read the ReadMe.htm file and you should know all you need to know about it. If it sounds like something you could use run Setup.exe and have fun.

As a test message use this with the passphrase of "Password" (without the quotes):

gmPtGYutvQCrqXMT++rFLwcN53qTuDpieDL/Z3svuIz4RnHNTCeJ+8aGC4Z2orZ9Zsen/rg7
8JG/Rm/cQ33D5bqSWqTXU4ctDCabZAKw2po=

Update: I forgot to mention, because of my exceedingly Microsoft centric view of the universe, this only works on Windows. I tested it on XP and 32 and 64-bit versions of Vista.

Update2: If you enter in corrupted cipher text and try to decrypt the program will crash. I have fixed it but haven't released new version yet. I'll wait for a few more days to get feedback and bug reports. Consider what you have as an Alpha release.

By: Lyle at UltiMAK Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:09:40 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Crap for brains | Current News | Gun Rights )

What if DC citizens get to exercise their right to keep a functional, loaded firearm in the home for self defense, and the crime rate drops?  What if at some point DC gets legal concealed carry, and crime rates drop even more?

Won't the antis just hate that?

Yes, I think it is reasonable to assume they would see that as a defeat and absolutely hate it (it's exactly how they viewed all other defeats, where crime has dropped after a new concealed carry shall-issue law) which points to the utter depravity of these people, and the lie they've been telling us when they claim that what they're doing is about "safety".

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:02:35 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights | Politics )

We don't have the best Brady score yet, but we are working on it.

Many, many thanks to Mike Brown at Idaho Sport Shooters Alliance who wrote this bill and pushed it through.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:22:19 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Current News | Gun Rights )

I like the one from SAF. A short excerpt:

“An affirmative ruling, which we anticipate sometime in late June,” he concluded, “will provide a foundation upon which other Draconian firearms laws can be challenged, and more importantly, it will destroy a fantasy that has become a cornerstone argument for restrictive gun control laws. This should put an end to the lie that the Second Amendment only protects some mythical right of the states to organize a militia. That was not true when the amendment was written, it is not true today, and it will not be true tomorrow, regardless how hard extremist gun banners try to make it so.”

The NRA-ILA release looks like it was written the day before. They can do better.

Nothing from GOA.

Update: The NRA did get in the news with some strong statements.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:11:48 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights | Politics )

The day before yesterday I wrote about others contributing to and being a part of history in the Heller case. Certainly the participants in that battle did some really heavy lifting and deserve credit for it. I'm also hearing some of them say encouraging words to the effect that they couldn't have done it alone. That all the decades of activism on the part of the grass roots and enabled them attempt lopping off the head of the beast yesterday.

Listen to what Dave Kopel says.

Ashley Varner at NRA-ILA sent me this in an email after I told her to tend to important things and not to worry about answering my email right away:

I must kindly take issue with your last email. Don't say you are unimportant -- if I were to believe the Brady Campaign claims, we are all a part of the Triangle of Death and each of our different roles are important to the cause of pissing off anti-gunners, educating the mass of gun owners, inspiring others to join the fight and above all, preserving liberty for our future generations. :-)

I have two "take aways" (Is that in common usage? Or is that just a Microsoft thing?) from this:

  1. The big hitters in our political game (a game of life and death!) are gracious.
  2. A contribution even at the very lowest levels make a difference so don't think you can't or don't help by getting involved.
By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:30:53 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Freedom | Gun Rights )

I have been reading (and listening) to a lot of material over the last 24 hours. No one has said they think the bigots are going to win on the individual versus collective right issue.

Reading the websites and listening to the statements from the bigots I get the impression that they are trying to hold things together and not collapse into disarray:

The Brady Bunch:

"Today, the Justices of the Supreme Court thoroughly discussed the Second Amendment of the Constitution for the first time in nearly 70 years, in the District of Columbia v. Heller case.  Their probing questions, and the lawyers' responses, highlighted the complex history and competing approaches to gun regulation in our country.  I am hopeful that their ruling will uphold the right of people in communities like the District to enact common sense gun measures they feel are needed to protect themselves and their families.

"One of the reasons we have weak or nearly non-existent gun laws today is because a lot of politicians, and many citizens, think the Second Amendment limits our ability to enact common sense gun restrictions. Today's arguments, however, demonstrated broad support from all sides for responsible regulations concerning guns. 

"Think how much safer we all would be if we made it harder for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons nationwide, not just in a few areas."

The Gun Guys:

The VPC:

<crickets>

While cautioning that, as Barb and I say in cases like this, "I'll believe it when the check clears the bank", I think we should start preparing to use a new weapon that we might well have in our arsenal by July. As with all new weapons we need to train with it and plan how to use it before we can use it to maximum effectiveness.

The biggest issue I see is that we are, in a lot of ways, like slaves that have never known freedom. We are about to be freed from a terrible yoke and we have to learn how to use our new freedom on several different levels. If we don't we will mess up and we will still be "gun n***ers", freed, but still "gun n***ers" and subject to all the Jim Crow laws the bigots can muster.

  • Most importantly we must be responsible with our new tool. Challenging restrictions on RPGs, tanks, artillery, and even machine guns needs to be off the table. Just tell people, "That's not at issue here." When they insist, tell them there is no point in talking about it because it's not at issue.
  • We need to just hammer the bigots who for decades have claimed it was a "collective right". Anytime one of them says anything about gun control remind the world this is the same guy that lied to everyone about what the Second Amendment really means. Capture their quotes now before they try to rewrite history. Make them eat those words every time they open their mouth.
  • The bigots lied before and they are probably lying again. Make them completely justify every word and nuance. Put them and their organizations under the strictest scrutiny we can possibly deliver.
  • Remind the world the CCRKBA/GOA/JPFO/NRA/SAF/etc. was right. These are the people that have been defending inalienable civil rights and have been vilified by lying bigots all these years.
  • Attack, attack, attack. You don't win a war by playing nothing but defense. We must choose the battles, the skirmishes, and the conflicts.
  • 18 USC 241 and 242. It is a right. Those that oppose it are criminals. Tell your prosecutors, tell your representatives, tell the media, tell it to the bigots faces.
  • We must politically destroy the opposition. If nothing else I expect can financially destroy the organizations. We can probably turn a Heller victory in at least a moderate financial win for the pro gun side and even though the bigots might be able to get a short term financial boost I expect this ruling will impair their ability to raise funds long term. Their supporters will realize they have been lied to and it won't sit well that they have been supporting a lie.
  • Gun owners have been and are victims. Yeah, I know, it doesn't feel right to portray ourselves that way, but it's a powerful tool and it's true.

That's just what I can come up with off the top of my head. Think about it and try to realize that we have a completely new game with brand new rules here. Yes, technically the rules haven't changed they are just being enforced for the first time in, well, forever. But the things we can do now that we have rule book the other side is forced to accept changes the picture. Instead of arguing about the rule book we can now play the game.

By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:29:52 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Blog stuff | Gun Rights )
By: Joe Huffman Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:15:04 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Gun Rights | Quote of the Day )

I know a little something about state constitutional RKBA and I can tell you that Gura made exactly the wrong argument-- he started talking about how courts had interpreted these provisions 100 years later. Stevens was having none of this: he was allowed to make his point that it was 12-2 for a collective right in the early state constitutions. The correct argument was to put this in historical context: the citizens had just fought and won a revolution. Everybody was armed-- what the state constitutions were saying was:"Hey, we will never disarm the militia like the British just did!" The English did something similar after they kicked James II out-- they put a provision in their bill of rights guaranteeing an individual right for Protestants to have guns for personal protection. Stevens also made a big deal about this English bill of rights language showing that the english predecessor to the second amendment allowed parlimentary regulation of the right.

Gura could have neatly wrapped both these issues up together: The English Bill of Rights was adopted in the context of a revolution against a Catholic King who had disarmed the Protestants and ignored Parliament. The state bills of rights were adopted in the context of a revolution against an imperial power who had disarmed the militia.

Pennsy was an outlier because it was full of Quakers who were pacifists, and so they made the right one of self defense rather than military. Vermont had like 12 people in it when they became a state so they basically cribbed Pennsy's constitution to save money. The Federal Bill of Rights was adopted in the context of nation-building: the convention toned down the states' fire-breathing militia rhetoric in the first clause of the second amendment and then, in the second clause, reaffirmed the common law RKBA of individuals which was protected by the English bill of rights but, without making it explicity subject to congressional regulation.

Mike Brown
March 19, 2008
Lewiston Pistol Club email list, Heller Argument.
[Mike is our resident lawyer at the club and top dog at Idaho SSA.--Joe]

# Tuesday, March 18, 2008
By: Joe Huffman Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:48:31 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) ( Current News | Gun Rights )

I have lots to say but a bunch of Boomershoot stuff to get done has a higher priority for me.

In the meantime; Alan is reassuring:


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Full contact info at end

DATELINE: Washington, D.C. 3/18/08

Recovering from the Whirlwind of the Day

Heller Case Goes Better Than Expected

by Alan Korwin, Co-Author
Supreme Court Gun Cases


The bottom line is, I think we’re going to be OK.

When Justice Kennedy flat out said he believes in an individual right  under the Second Amendment, there were no gasps in the hush of the High  Court, but you could tell the greatest stellar array of gun-rights  experts ever assembled, all there in that one room, breathed a sigh of  relief -- we had five votes to affirm the human and civil right to arms.
 
The transcript will be a key for analysis going forward until June,  when the decision is expected, and I’m working without the benefit of that  at the moment. Digesting the fleeting and immensely complex speech  that took place for one hour and thirty-eight minutes a few hours ago,  it’s hard to see how any line of thought could be strung together to  support the idea that the D.C. total ban on operable firearms at home can be  seen as reasonable regulation, even though Mr. Dellinger, the city’s  attorney, tried to suggest it was. He was shot down on this repeatedly, found no quarter from any of the Justices, though several found room to move on what amounts to reasonable restrictions.

And it is easy to see, from the non-stop rapid-fire comments and questions of eight of the Justices (Thomas asked nothing, extending his legendary running silence), how even the most permissive standard of review imaginable for gun-ban laws, could tolerate the District’s level of  intolerance toward some sort of right to keep and bear arms.

That would give the pro-rights side what it so sorely wants – an admission that the Second Amendment protects something for “the people,” and the rest of that pie can be baked later.

Dellinger tried to suggest that rifles, shotguns and handguns had different usefulness, actually implying rifles are better for self defense in an urban home, because handguns were so inherently bad or dangerous that cities had a legitimate interest in banning them, but the Court  wasn’t buying it, and noting that D.C.’s ban banned everything.

Packed into that short rabidly intense section, the Justices examined:

* Original intent, and actions and writings of the colonies at the time of adoption;

* The meanings of the words, though not to the extent some people had anticipated;

* Separability of the terms keep and bear, whether they represented one right or two, how one could exist without the other, if they had civilian meanings or military ones, if you are “bearing” arms to go hunting  and more;

* The scope of the right covered, and whether personal or military  protections stood alone, dependent or had preference over each other;

* The “operative” and and preamble clause, and their relationship,  meaningfulness, and interactivity with each other;

* The types of weapons that might be covered by the term “arms,”
 accepting the idea that some weapons fall outside a sense of militia arms,  like “plastic guns” (that’s what they were called) that could escape  airport metal detection, or “rocket launchers” (actually a commonly used  modern militia arm in some countries experiencing insurgencies, a point  that did not come up), and especially machine guns, a repeated point  which the Justices did not resolve, especially since it has become the  standard issue firearm for our modern armed forces and confused the Miller  doctrine of commonly used arms;

* The rise and meaning of strict scrutiny, a doctrine that evolved  around the First Amendment and had no actual root in the Constitution, and  whose actual definition was fluid and with little consensus.

 

Scalia asked if permissible limits could restrict you to one gun, or  only a few guns, or if a collector couldn’t complete a set like a stamp  collector because of a quantity restriction, and then launched into a  demonstration of his familiarity with firearms by suggesting a need to  have a turkey gun, and a duck gun, and a thirty-ought-six, and a .270,  which sent Thomas into a fit of off-mic laughter that other observers  missed because they were focused on Scalia;

Noting that Massachusetts in colonial times regulated the storage of  gunpowder (it had to be kept upstairs as a fire precaution), Breyer asked  if there isn’t a lineage to permissible restrictions, and the Court  generally agreed. The point of contention, and it would not go away, was  where that line was drawn, and again and again the D.C. absolute ban  was found violative in its absoluteness. The decision to test the  protection of 2A against this law in particular was a brilliant stratagem.

Dellinger either deliberately misled the Court, or didn’t understand  the D.C. ban law (as hard to believe as that is, and it could come back  to bite him), because, in trying to make it appear less odious than it  was, he:

* Suggested D.C. would carve out an exception for an operable gun if it  were used in self defense -- which the law flatly does not abide (and  a point thoroughly undercut by Heller’s attorney Alan Gura, who pointed  out the District had such an opportunity twice and did not do so, and  in fact did the opposite);

* For use in self defense, a gun could be easily and quickly unlocked  and brought to bear, a point undercut by Chief Justice Roberts who had  to fight to get an admission that the gun had to be reloaded as well,  since the D.C. law banned loaded and unlocked arms;

* That lead to a wonderful exchange in which Dellinger said a gun can  be simply unlocked quickly -– he actually said he could do it in three  seconds, after demonstrating a poor understanding of how a lock  (available at a “hardware store” nearby) fits on a gun with or without  “bullets” in it;

* That lead to Scalia asking about turning a dial to find “3” and then  turning it the other way to find the next number;

* To which Roberts noted that, don’t you first have to turn on the  light having heard the sound of breaking glass, and then find your reading  glasses -- which got the biggest audience laugh of the day (there were  only a few other soft chuckles during the proceedings);…


OK, I recognize that this is a bit disjointed, and I’m working on an  unfamiliar machine, at the end of a grueling endurance test that involved  outrageous hours, little sleep, lousy diet, dire cold, miles of up and  downhill walking, and I’m getting pretty hungry. I’ll do a better job  over time, but I wanted to share some inside scoop you might not  otherwise get. Let me, before pausing for some chow (which we’ll have to go  out and find), convey some ambience.

Guests of the Court were ushered into the ground floor early on,  milling around (line waiters including my friend Bob were prepped on the  white marble steps outside). It was a who’s who inside and non-stop  on-your-toes meet and greet. John Snyder, lobbyist for CCRKBA/SAF, had read my  blog entry from last night, and introduced me to the companion on his  lobby bench… Dick Heller, of the Heller case.

A nice mild mannered guy, “I just want to be able to keep my guns.” He  said when they started this in 1994, they had no idea what they were  getting into, and in 1997 they began entertaining the idea that it could  go all the way and started raising funds. Now it had taken on a life of  its own and barely involved him. At 9:30 last night, he walked the  wait-to-get-in line and passed out cough drops. No one knew who he was. He  sat just behind me in the Courtroom. I lucked into the second row.

Directly in front of me was… Mayor Fenty, and I sat in the bright  reflected light of his pate. He turned, and in typical smiling politician  fashion extended his hand, shook mine, and said warmly, “It’s nice to see  you” as if we knew each other. Well at least, I knew him. One seat to  my right was Ann Dellinger, the city’s lawyer’s wife, who turned out to  be fascinating and a wealth of information. In a few moments, the  mayor relinquished his eat to the D.C. Chief of Police, but she didn’t turn  and say hi. Heady stuff. Everybody was a somebody.

Familiar faces were strewn about – there’s David Hardy on the other  side of the aisle, and Bob Dowlut had a front row seat. Stephen Halbrook,  one of my co-authors on Supreme Court Gun Cases had an early spot on  the Supreme Court bar-members line, and my other co-author, Dave Kopel, who  previously told me he would not be attending, turned out to be a  last-minute addition to the Respondant’s table at the head of the Courtroom.
 People who I think were on a better “tier” than I, like Joe Olson,  Clayton Cramer and others, didn’t luck into a seat and listened to  disembodied voices from the lawyers lounge outside the Courtroom.

Three calls for “sshhh” from a clerk at the front instantly dropped the  growing anticipatory cacophony to silence which then ramped up gently  until the next hiss for quiet. Three minutes to go and a call for  silence left everyone with their own thoughts until a tone sounded, the  aides signaled us to rise, God Bless This Court was spoken, and we were  underway.

By a stroke of luck, Justice Thomas was assigned the reading of a decision of a prior case, and we got to hear his baritone voice, which often remains mute throughout. New members of the Supreme Court bar were sworn in, and Justice Roberts asked Mr. Dellinger to begin, which he did promptly.

More later.

Alan.


Alan Korwin, Co-Author
Supreme Court Gun Cases
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