Quote of the day—Celebrity

The Second Amendment does not preclude federal law relating to firearms, as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

Celebrity
August 19, 2016
Comment in the DebatePolitics thread My Gun Control Plan [W:1271]
[A few things Celebrity should spend some time reflecting upon:

  1. Does the same logic apply to books and the number of people you are free to associate with? No? Then it doesn’t apply to guns either.
  2. They have crap for brains.
  3. Gun owners are going say Molṑn labé.

Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Maile McCann

Finally, and most importantly, incorporating considerations of gun suicide into policy-making decisions is necessary because it would lead to different policy outcomes. One of the main focuses of the gun-control debate revolves around limiting the types of firearms that can be purchased, which could work to decrease the casualties of individual mass shootings, but would do little to prevent gun suicide, which requires only one bullet. Instead, focusing on mental health screenings, making it take longer to buy guns, making it harder to buy guns, and eliminating guns altogether would prove much more effective.

Maile McCann
March 8, 2017
Suicide: Gun Control Advocates’ More Pressing Problem
[McCann thinks it’s perfectly reasonable to “eliminate guns altogether” (Maile, are you taking point on that task?) because some people wants to exercise their own “right to chose”. Even if 100% of those decisions were easily and conclusively known to be wrong decisions (I know of suicides where one can make a decent case that it wasn’t an unreasonable decision) the decisions other people make for themselves cannot give some government entity the power to infringe upon the rights of the population as a whole.

And don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Stranger

someone stopped by searching for “key question about gun control.”

Inspector of Police Colin Greenwood of the West Yorkshire Constabulary, (Rtd) , in a report to Parliament tells of flying to Australia for an international conference of Criminologists. Everyone before his scheduled speaking time was high on the myriad virtues of gun control, so the Inspector scrapped his prepared notes and, stepping to the podium asked the hall full of criminologists if they knew of a single case in which gun controls had reduced crime rates, made anyone safer, or done anything else a sane person would consider “good.” No one did.

Inspector of Police Greenwood’s question is the key question about gun control.

Stranger
March 6, 2016
“The Most Important Fact About Gun Control?”
[Just one question.—Joe

Update: Sometimes what I think is blindly obvious and doesn’t need to be said, actually should be said…

This demonstrates those who support gun control do it for reasons other than the public good. So, one has to ask, what is the real reason they support gun control?]

Quote of the day—John Hoschen

After 20 years of active duty military experience and nearly 30 years involved with professional civilian handgun training I have observed that:

1) Handguns are at best of tertiary interest to the Army.

2) The criteria used to select a handgun for the military includes several factors of very limited value to the civilian self-defense practitioner and fails to address several other factors which are critical to that user.

3) Only a VERY small minority of all military members EVER fire a handgun.

4) The training provided to the majority of military members who do fire a handgun is extremely rudimentary. (InSights General Defensive Handgun course is far more in depth and the material in our Intermediate Defensive Handgun course is not found in the military training system other than a few special operations schools.)

Based on the above observations it is my opinion that:

What handgun the Army has chosen for standard issue should have exactly zero impact on what handgun a civilian should consider for self defense use.

John Hoschen
March 3, 2017
Via the InSights Training Center email list regarding the Sig P320
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day-OMG How Could I?‏ @DidITweetThat

@seahawks575791 What purposes do guns have?

1 Kill
2 Target Practice
3 Penis Enlargement
4 Penis Replacement
5 ?

OMG How Could I?‏ @DidITweetThat
Tweeted on June 1, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday! Via a tweet from Proud Hunter ‏@Duck_Hunter7.

We have SCOTUS decisions. They have a startlingly limited view of reality.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Benjamin Franklin

I ran over in my mind every property by which she was distinguished, not only from other animals, but from those of the same genus or class of animals, endeavoring to fix some meaning to each, not wholly inconsistent with common sense.

I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids. She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance. She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage. As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarreling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal; and even when those weapons are shown and extended for her defense, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal. Conscious of this, she never wounds ’till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.

Benjamin Franklin
December 27, 1775
Benjamin Franklin on the Rattlesnake as a Symbol of America
[Via an email from Firearms Policy Coalition promoting “a limited-edition “Don’t Tread on Me” morale patch.”

FpcDontTreadOnMe

Interesting. I had never given the Gadsden flag anywhere that much thought and there is far more reflection on the meaning at the link.—Joe]

Quote of the day—NRA-ILA

It’s not that the permitting standards of these states are any more effective in screening out dangerous applicants. It’s that concealed carry permits in those states are treated as the exclusive domain of the wealthy and the connected. The idea that “common” people would have the same rights simply offends the ruling elite’s sense of entitlement.

NRA-ILA
March 3, 2017
Cornyn Introduces the “Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017” in the Senate
[I’m sure this is at least part of the reason for some people. This would be particularly true for those who can afford their own armed guards (Mayor Bloomberg, I’m talking to you).

But another part is that anti-gun people who understand sociology and psychology know that they cannot let the right to keep and bear arms be seen as normal. The more people who openly keep and bear arms the more ordinary it becomes and once it becomes commonplace they will have lost.

We are winning the battle to carry handguns in public and getting reciprocity in all 50 states will probably be the last significant “coffin nail” in that battle. There will be “cleanup” of things like carry in Post Offices, schools, government buildings, and on airplanes, but it will very, very tough for them to regain the ground they have lost with so many people carrying so many guns so much of the time. It will also give us traction in the anti-gun states like New Jersey, Hawaii, California, and New York to repeal some of their repressive gun laws. This, I suspect, is the big fear of the anti-gun people.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Ralph Fascitelli

The chances of meaningful gun legislation either nationally or in more than a handful of states is remote for the foreseeable future. Nor can anyone expect a national public health campaign comparable to the “Friends Don’t Let Friends, Drive Drunk” government effort that played a key role in reducing drunk driving deaths by 50% over the past 30 years.

Ralph Fascitelli
Board president of Washington Ceasefire,
February 26, 2017
Smart guns in police holsters
[Via Say Uncle.

Fascitelli compares gun ownership to drunk drivers? Yes, that’s really what he thinks of you.

So, he wants to talk about accidental death reduction over the last 30+ years? Okay, I’m game. Here is the data I downloaded from the CDC on accidental firearm deaths.

From 1985 to 2015 the total number deaths dropped from 1649 to 489. A decrease of over 70%. And if we look at the death rate instead of total deaths it went from 0.69 to 0.15 per 100,000. That’s a drop of over 78%. And that’s without a government program.

I can’t say that it is cause and effect but the NRA Eddie Eagle program (gun safety for children of any age from pre-school through third grade) was developed in 1988. And there was a big push for more NRA firearms instructors in the mid 1990s.

AccidentalDeathByFirearm1981-2015

AccidentalDeathRateByFirearm1981-2015

But don’t expect Fascitelli to want to talk about the successes of the private sector or gun organizations. It’s not about safety. It’s about government control.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Allan Cors

The defeated elites are trying to convince Americans that censorship is good; that “we the people” are too stupid to discern between fact and fiction, veracity and lies, and news and propaganda.

The truth is when it comes to the Second Amendment and all that the NRA stands for, “fake news” has been the mainstay of the majority of the elite media for as long as I can remember.

Allan Cors
NRA President
February 28, 2017
The Media Want You To Believe Everything You Read, As Long As They Publish It
[I’ve been following the issue closely since early 1994 and it has been true for that entire time. And that includes numerous incidents in which I was a participant. I knew exactly what the truth was and how the media presented something completely false.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Barry Macalkner

I have many concerns on the use of firearms in the city. It is really starting to become out of hand. These children need to be raised with a life without guns. We really need a full citywide ban on all firearms.

Barry Macalkner
Vacaville
February 27, 2017
Gun control should be a must for all cities
[And where does he draw the line? At the city limits? Check out the FBI crime statistics on Washington D.C. and Chicago compared to their neighboring cities when they had complete bans on guns.

The limits will never end at the city, county, state, or country level. They will always want it all.

Don’t ever let them get away with banning such things past the limits of their own private property. And don’t ever let someone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Azadeh Ansari

Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner recently signed a new gun control law that imposes harsher penalties on those who bring in guns from out of state to sell and do not have gun-owner ID cards. Illinois already has some of the strictest gun-control laws in the nation however it’s done little to stem the violence.

Last year, marked the deadliest year the city has seen in nearly two decades with a reported 762 homicides.

Azadeh Ansari
February 24, 2017
Seven shot dead – including pregnant mother – in one day in gun controlled Chicago
[Gee… I wonder if there is a connection between “the strictest gun-control laws in the nation” and “the deadliest year the city has seen in nearly two decades”.

Of course there is.

President Trump has been suggesting he will send in troops to put an end to it. I think sending in Federal Marshals to arrest those passing and enforcing gun control laws, followed by self-defense handgun training for the average person, would work far better and be far cheaper.

But these people have spent so much time living in an alternate reality they would rather be killed that face the truth.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Vice President Mike Pence

America’s Obamacare nightmare is about to end. Despite the best efforts of liberal activists around the country, the American people know better. Obamacare has failed, and Obamacare must go.

Vice President Mike Pence
February 23, 2017
VP Pence: ‘America’s Obamacare nightmare is about to end’
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Michael V. Pelletier

They don’t lack understanding … they merely don’t care about breaking their oath to uphold the Constitution when stacked against the opportunity to vindicate their emotions and political views.

Michael V. Pelletier
February 22, 2017
Comment to 4th Circuit Issues Devastating Opinion Regarding “Assault Rifles”
[This was regarding the judges who found the 2nd Amendment doesn’t protect ownership of modern sporting rifles.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Alan Korwin

As part of the peaceful protest, pop singer Madonna, a keynote speaker, called for blowing up the White House. No arrest was reported. Signs carried by the protesters were the most vicious, vulgar, obscene, profane, pornographic, disgraceful, disgusting, expletive-laced, hysterically funny and unfit for broadcast ever seen in a demonstration, gleefully published by lamestream media and widely available on the web, proving once again that everything the left accuses everyone else of — is psychological projection of themselves.

Alan Korwin
USA Today Promotes, Fails to Report
February 12, 2017
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Vania Leveille and Susan Mizner

Adding more innocent Americans to the National Instant Criminal Background database because of a mental disability is a disturbing trend — one that could be applied to voting, parenting or other rights dearer than gun ownership. We opposed it because it would do little to stem gun violence but do much to harm our civil rights.

Vania Leveille
ACLU senior legislative counsel
Susan Mizner
ACLU disability counsel
February 20, 2017
ACLU: Gun control laws should be fair
[If only they would recognize the same logic could be successfully applied to all weapon ownership laws.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Brenda @brendagaylern

@MercilessTV @Jeff257 @NathanJRobinson because that’s what it is-AND to make a fat white guy w/a shrunken penis feel like he’s a navy seal

Brenda ‏@brendagaylern
Tweeted on May 5, 2016
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

As usual. We have facts and SCOTUS decisions. They have grade school insults.

Via a Tweet from Proud Hunter ‏@Duck_Hunter7.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Vincent Shen

I can’t speak to that 10 to 15 years from now. But overall, it seems like the 2nd Amendment is here to stay.

Vincent Shen
February 7, 2017
How American Outdoor Brands Investors Should View the Threat of Gun Control
[I have much higher hopes for the “health” of the 2nd Amendment now than I have for the last eight years. It may never be what I think it should be in my lifetime but there is a good chance it will be good enough for all practical purposes.—Joe]