Government Admits Background Checks Do Not Enhance Public Safety

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A District Court ruled in 2021 that the government was 60% responsible for the massacre after shooter Devin Kelley, who was discharged from the Air Force after a felony conviction, wasn’t entered into the national database that would have prevented him from buying a gun. A judge said the government also owed victims $230 million in damages.

But in court documents filed this week, the Department of Justice pushed back on paying damages and denied that they were primarily responsible for the shooting — a move that gun control advocates say not only harms victims and their families, but is also a backwards step for the Biden administration’s own stance on gun control policy.

NPR
January 14, 2023
DOJ appeal in Texas mass shooting case pleases NRA and puzzles gun control advocates

The issue is the DOJ is claiming the government failure to put the perp into the NICS database does not make them liable for the massacre. This can be interpreted to mean they know background checks do not make the public safer. Hence, background checks are either intended for something other than public safety (such as creating a backdoor registration of guns) and/or a waste of public resources.

The Effective End of the Gun Control Movement

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Was at my local gun shop again yesterday. I’m not exaggerating when I say that there was a minyan of religious Jews inside within 20 minutes after the store opened. And I’ll say it again: Jews arming up like this is the effective end of the gun control movement in America.

Jake Novak @jakejakeny
Tweeted on November 11, 2023

I’m not sure this is the definitive indicator of the end of the gun control movement in America. If I were to place a stake in the political landscape and say, “This is point of no return for the gun control movement.”, I would place it at October 26th, 2020. This is the day the U.S. Senate confirmed Amy Coney Barrett as an associate justice to the U.S. Supreme Court as a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

Still, large numbers of people from any group that usually votes for anti-gun politicians buy guns is a push in the right direction down a slippery slope. Gun ownership is a “gateway drug” to a more individualistic mindset.

In a recent discussion with brother Doug he reported something he had read on a forum somewhere indicating that gun ownership doesn’t necessarily mean voting against the political left. As he reported it:

Jews will continue to vote for the political left as they are being loaded into the box cars.

I don’t know how much truth there is in that claim, but it is worth further observation of Jewish voting habits as the Hamas supporters in this country continue to show their bloody intentions.

These People are Evil

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There’s no noncriminal use for civilians, really, in the way they’re promoting them. If you ask somebody to make a list of ‘missions’ that could be carried out with an AR-15 – by a civilian – you could give them till the end of time, and then they wouldn’t be able to think of something that would be lawful.

Josh Koskoff
November 11, 2023
Mass Murder Is a Choice. The Gun Industry Made It

This is what they think of you. If you own an AR-15 you own have criminal uses for it.

I find it very telling that no one from the gun industry or gun consumer was quoted in this article.

These people have nothing but their delusions to draw upon to generate their propaganda in their war upon the specific enumerate right to keep and bear arms.

As for the private citizen AR-15 “missions”, here are a few:

  • Defense from foreign invasion as in the Russia Ukraine war.
  • Defense from religious/ethnic rebellion as in the Hamas action against Jewish residents in Israel.
  • Wild hog hunting.
  • Varmint (prairie dog, etc.) hunting.
  • Three Gun matches.
  • Boomershoot.

All are lawful and it took me considerable less than “the end of time” to enumerate those.

These people are liars with an evil goal. The violation of a constitutional protected right creating a disarmed society susceptible to genocide.

Prepare and respond appropriately.

Amusing ATF Slap Down

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The Final Rule is limitless. It purports to regulate any piece of metal or plastic that has been machined beyond its primordial state for fear that it might one day be turned into a gun, a gun frame, or a gun receiver. And it doesn’t stop regulating the metal or plastic until it’s melted back down to ooze. The GCA allows none of this. I concur in the majority’s opinion holding the Final Rule is unlawful. And I further concur that the matter should be remanded to the district court to fashion an appropriate remedy for the plaintiffs.

Andrew S. Oldham
U.S. Circuit Judge
VanDerStok v. Garland
November 9, 2023

You might want to read the whole thing. It is pretty amusing to see the ATF get slapped down so hard.

Sad and Ironic? Yes, Also Rogue and Evil.

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It is a sad and ironic twist that the ATF professes its desire to protect the privacy of gunowners, considering this case involves ATF’s covert surveillance program that for years has been spying on, invading the privacy of, and gathering private information about those very persons. It is more ironic still that ATF seeks to protect that information vis-à-vis Plaintiffs, nonprofit organizations whose mission is to protect and defend the rights (including the privacy) of gunowners against government infringement. This Court should deny Defendant’s request to force Plaintiffs to sequester, to not use, and to destroy records about a secret government program that fails to sequester, nefariously uses, and fails to destroy records about gun sales that Congress’s own statutory protective order declares must be destroyed and not used.

Gun Owners of America, Inc., el al.
October 13, 2023
Plaintiffs’ Opposition to Defendant’s Motion For Protective Order

If the ATF people had any moral decency this would burn pretty deep. As it is, I suspect this will be regarded as a source of pride.

I hope the judge sees the ATF for what it is. It is a government organization without constitutional authority run amuck. I hope they enjoy their trial.

Evil? Stupid? False Flag? Definitely Funny!

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I have never heard a reasonable argument for why a sportsman or a hunter needs to turn their rifle into a machine gun with the use of a bump stock to kill Bambi’s mom. The only purpose of a bump stock is to kill as many people as possible, as quickly as possible.

The way forward is to ban guns except as needed by a well-regulated militia. Everything else is just changing the retail name of the thing that will be purchased to murder children and ex-girlfriends.

Elie Mystal
November 7, 2023
The Supreme Court’s Next Big Gun Case Puts Us All in the Crosshairs

The absurdity is so great that I have to wonder if she is actually running a false flag operation for the benefit of gun owners.

On one hand she pretends to believe guns are only for sportsmen (and presumably sportswomen) and hunters who don’t need machine guns. This ignores the need for private citizens to defend themselves and their communities as recently demonstrated in the Ukraine and Israel.

Then she wants to ban all guns except those needed by a well-regulated militia. Of course, as pointed out by SCOTUS, the militia includes most private citizens. Hence, she is advocating for the banning of guns used for hunting and making available true assault rifles, .50 BMG machine guns, and artillery.

I’m laughing even though it is such a serious topic. Her display of evil lies, stupidity, and/or a poorly executed false flag operation is just so over the top I can’t help it.

Mark W. Smith/#2A Scholar @fourboxesdiner

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The early Americans tolerated all sorts of bad experiences from King George III, but when he decided to take the guns, it was Revolution Time. In April 1775, when the Redcoats left Boston to march to Lexington/Concord, they were not marching to rape and pillage the countryside….. No, they were intent on confiscating the Americans guns.

Mark W. Smith/#2A Scholar @fourboxesdiner
Tweeted on October 29, 2023

And we are tolerating all sorts of bad experiences now. The confiscation of guns would be a similar spark to the one in 1775.

Audacious Lies

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We must come to grips with the reality that the only reason people buy automatic AR15-style assault weapons in America is not for home protection, target practice, or hunting. An automatic weapon is not needed to do these activities. Assault weapons are only used for one thing—to kill the largest number of people in the shortest time possible.

Thy Black Man—Staff
November 5, 2023
Gun Control: What Will It Take To Ban Assault Weapons In America?

There are tens of millions of “assault weapons” used by people in this country. Since there aren’t 100s of millions of deaths each year via these killing machine then we must be using them wrong. Or… They are lying.

You have to wonder at the audacity and the motivation for such a lie.

With the lynching of black men and the use of firearms by the Black Panthers within living memory you would think the authors would realize the utility of firearms for self-defense against an oppressive or even the turning of a blind eye to crimes against people of their skin color.

Perhaps they do understand this and are working for the day when they have the power to oppress the descendants of their ancestors oppressors.

Whatever the reason for their lies, prepare and respond appropriately to retain our specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms.

Mental Issues

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Such a small penis club here.

Thats Enjoyable @onequeerjourney
Tweeted on June 16, 2023

It’s not only another Markley’s Law Monday, it is another science denier!

This was in response to a black man saying:

Mississippi Burning murders

That is why I own an AR-15.

UR a Smart Ass, Carl @Ur_a_Smartass_C
Tweeted on June 16, 2023

You really have to wonder how messed up their thinking is to believe a penis insult is an appropriate response to that.

Some Lesson Details

To support my assertion that there was a clear lesson which should have been learned I give you this, also from The Times of Israel on October 9th:

A failed attempt by terrorists on Saturday to enter Nir Am, a kibbutz situated some 500 yards (457 meters) away from the border with Gaza, ended with the death of two perpetrators, a local defender says.

“The terrorists appear to have tried to penetrate a large chicken farm next to Nir Am, possibly mistaking its fence for the kibbutz’s fence,” says Ami Rabin, 70, the previous security coordinator of Nir Am, who is also the uncle of his successor, Amit Rabin.

The kibbutz’s guard detail, whose members took up forward positions upon hearing gunshots, shot two of the terrorists as they entered the factory, Rabin tells The Times of Israel. Blood trails around the scene indicated a third sustained a serious injury, he adds.

And this from October 10th:

One tale of bravery involves a handful of men and women who, with only two rifles and a few handguns, prevented a detachment of heavily armed terrorists from setting foot in their community of Ein Habesor.

None of the defenders died in the 20-minute-long gunfight, in which they employed subterfuge to make the terrorists believe they were up against a more formidable fighting force.

Another is about Noam Tibon, a reserves general from Tel Aviv who, within an hour of the terrorist incursion, led a hastily assembled intervention team to the home of his son — Amir Tibon of the Haaretz newpaper — in Kibbutz Nahal Oz.

The team killed several terrorists outside several homes, including that of his son, Amir, who was holed up inside with his wife and daughters.

A third account revolves around Inbal Rabin-Lieberman, the 25-year-old security coordinator of Kibbutz Nir Am. She and her uncle Ami led a guard detail so alert that it killed two terrorists as they were trying to enter a nearby chicken farm. This response was so effective that it made the dead invaders’ entire detachment lose the appetite for entering Nir Am.

Back in Ein Habesor, local resident Noam Gotliv says, “We’re only hearing the tip of the iceberg of the bravery that Israelis showed over the past two days.” Gotliv used a handgun to fire from close range on terrorists armed with rifles. Another resident armed with nothing but an axe stayed with Gotliv’s wife, Julie, and three children inside their home shelter in case the terrorists breached the gate.

Lesson Not Learned

You would think with such a vivid example less than a month previous they would understand why the right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.

From The Times of Israel:

Coming to a public space near you: Guns. Lots of guns.

Weapons should only be distributed to citizens if common sense precautionary measures are applied, including extensive background checks before issuing a license and monitoring of license holders.

We may have to wait until the state of emergency ends before public debate can take place over these risky new regulations, meanwhile, we can only hope it won’t take a tragedy for the national security ministry to take measures that ensure deadly weapons don’t end up in the wrong hands.

Are these people just mind bogglingly slow learners? Or is there some sort of motivation I cannot fathom?

Don’t Ban Guns, Ban Gun Stores

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We can pass laws to close gun stores in the 17 states where Democrats have unified control. As a candidate for the state Assembly in New York — one of those 17 states — I am proposing a law telling every corporate entity in the state to make a choice: either stop selling guns or stop doing business in our state.

Scott A. Budow
November 4, 2023
How to curb gun violence: States should ban corporations from selling guns

This smooth brained tyrant wannabe thinks this would pass constitutional muster? Wow!

Does he also believe the states could ban stores that sell religious books? Or churches even? You are free to practice whatever religion you want in your own home. So, in his world view, that wouldn’t be an infringement, right?

Or how about banning media outlets which publish nonsense from Democrats? What will it take for this guy to understand? I propose that if he wins his public office and is successful in banning gun stores he get educated via a public trial and some serious prison time.

Liberty Tradeoffs

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While some people legitimately do need a gun for self-defense, nobody ever “needs” a drink. Alcohol is a worse liberty tradeoff in that sense, because the only utility is having fun and feeling good. To put it in the gun control terms: “By continuing to oppose banning alcohol, you are OK with over 100,000 people dying so you can enjoy your occasional beer, you evil monster!”

None of this is to say I want us to take another run at prohibition. Of course not. Rather, it is to demonstrate that everyone implicitly understands and accepts liberty tradeoffs. But on guns, they pretend not to. And alcohol isn’t even a constitutional right, yet we have given it de-facto protection anyway. I see alcohol advertising everywhere in a way that would be unthinkable for guns.

Many more people die because we can easily buy a drink than because we can (usually not as easily) buy a rifle.

Kostas Moros @MorosKostas
Tweeted on October 26, 2023

I have two hypotheses for why this occurs:

  • Gun grabbers are interested in control of the general population. They are not interested in saving lives.
  • Gun grabbers drink alcohol and know lots of people that do. A ban on, or strict regulation of, alcohol would adversely affect their recreational use and social life. They don’t own guns and believe most of their friends would not be adversely affected by a gun ban either.

Of course both things could be true.

I suspect that should you try to point out this inconsistency to a gun grabber the response would be similar to what once happened to me. I was confronting a hired gun banner working to pass the Washington State initiative to ban “assault weapons”.

I tried to make an analogy with the banning of recreational drugs. Their response was, “We are talking about guns, not drugs.” I attempted to continue saying the analogy was instructive. Their response was, “We are done talking about this.” They then refused to have any sort of conversation with me. They just repeatedly said, “We are done talking.” I concluded they knew they were on shaky ground and didn’t want more exposure of their weak position to the people around us.

It Isn’t that Simple

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These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are fucking around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 100 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.

Mr. Wheeler
June 2012
The Pig Trap

I’m not sure it is quite that simple. There is a huge “swamp” to be drained to reduce the size of our government to that which it is supposedly limited to by the U.S. Constitution.

That said, if it were possible to avoid the civil war as described by the execution of the appropriate 100 people I can see a case being made for that. It is similar to the adage, “A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords at dawn.”

Dissent in Ninth Circuit Magazine Ban

Some fascinating stuff via Rolf:

Dissent in Ninth Circuit Magazine Ban Shows Rogue Judges Ignore Constitution

On September 28, an en banc panel from the Ninth Circuit grabbed control of the Duncan v. Bonta. The magazine ban case in a stunning departure from the usual order of the court. It may or may not have violated the rules of the court. Several of the judges on the panel were not happy. Four judges of the eleven-judge panel dissented. Of particular interest was the dissent of Judge VanDyke.

The honorable Judge VanDyke revealed a history of internal shenanigans when the en banc panel first took the case. Judge VanDyke aired some of the Ninth Circuit’s dirty laundry. The strong, ideological opposition to the Second Amendment has been clear in the Ninth Circuit from the beginning.

They are openly violating the rules.

While it shows their desperation, they, almost certainly, will get away with it.

2nd Amendment as Interpreted by NYC

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The right of the people with good moral character to keep & bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Yeah, that’s not what it says.

The Cisquatch
October 24, 2023
Comment to Judge strikes down recent NYC rules restricting gun licensing as unconstitutional

Even that modification is not really acceptable to NYC politicians. It is just the weasel words they use to try and sneak it past the courts. In reality almost everyone will be denied their specific enumerated right to keep and bear arms.

I think the politicians need to spend some time in prison to understand how far off base they are.

Aiding Our Enemies By Disarming Us

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Israel once encouraged citizens to own and carry. Gradual infringement cut this natural right to self-defense and property ownership (arms). Danger is what you get when government denies civil rights. Israel’s slightly relaxed gun laws are a good step, but a small one. America needs to remove any restrictions on peaceful possession of arms—infringements—banned by the Constitution. Officials who act to maintain infringements need to face charges for aggravated infringement—putting innocent lives in danger. Denial of civil rights is a crime, 18 USC §242. Aiding our enemies by disarming us must stop.

Alan Korwin
October 14, 2023
“Standing with Israel” Is Not Enough Mr. President!

Another reference to 18 USC 242. Anti-gun politicians, Enjoy Your Trial!

It is About Control

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In theory, if criminals leave registered guns at a crime scene, the serial numbers can be used to trace the weapons back to the perpetrators.

But, in real life, guns are only left at the scene of a crime when gunmen have been seriously injured or killed. With both the criminal and the weapon present at a scene, police can solve these crimes without registration. In the exceedingly unusual instances where registered guns are left at the scene, they aren’t registered to the person who committed the crime.

Police in Hawaii, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and New York have had registration systems in place for decades but can’t point to any crimes that this has helped them to solve. Even entire countries such as Canada haven’t had success.

New York and Maryland spent tens of millions of dollars compiling a computer database that contained the unique ballistic “fingerprints” of each new gun sold over a 15-year period. Even these states, which strongly favor gun control, eventually abolished their systems because they never solved a single crime.

Despite Biden’s claims, his new ghost gun regulations are no more useful. Combined with Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for any paperwork mistakes by gun dealers, which has put thousands of licensed dealers out of business, this new rule is quite nefarious. Biden wants to put gun dealers out of business if they make any paperwork mistake, no matter how trivial or inconsequential. With each part of a gun having a different serial number, just transferring a barrel from one gun to another requires redoing all the paperwork on both guns. Biden is adding significant costs to gun dealers and manufacturers and increasing the likelihood of mistakes that would put them out of business.

There is a possible argument for using serial numbers for tax purposes, to allow for easier proof of whether a gun has been taxed. The 1934 National Firearms Act imposed taxes on certain weapons, such as machine guns. But licensed dealers can still make sure that guns are properly taxed when sold, just as sales taxes are imposed on items at any other store.

The Supreme Court’s decision on Monday isn’t the final word. But the real question is this: Why do Democrats keep pushing a policy that costs so much and has no crime-reducing benefits? Someday, knowing who owns guns will help them to target their confiscation efforts. Mass registration will set the stage for future gun bans.

John R. Lott Jr.
October 21, 2023
SCOTUS Rules on ‘Ghost Gun’ Regulation

It is not about public safety. It is about control. Total dictatorial, genocide enabled, control.