Quote of the day—Craig DeLuz

Eventually, law-abiding people will be forced into making hard choices to escape the oppression, including non-compliance, or leaving and taking their tax dollars and businesses with them. Sadly, the California government really does hate civil rights and its own people.

Craig DeLuz
Firearms Policy Coalition Legislative Advocate and Spokesperson
April 6, 2018
BREAKING: Amendments to Calif. “Ghost Gun” Bill Would Enact “Staggering” New Firearms Parts Regulations
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Michael Z. Williamson

If a bureaucrat has the authority to state that AND ENFORCE IT, there is no Republic. Literally any cabinet head, or possibly lower, can declare outlawry, steal property, seize anything, without even the pretense that an existing law was broken. Law will be whatever they say it is, any day of the week. Any religion can be illegal or mandatory. Anything can be contraband or mandatory. The rule of law simply fails to exist. If this doesn’t terrify you, I guess you can go now. Good luck. There’s nothing I can do when they quite literally do come to put you in those camps you fear, which just became a solid reality.

Michael Z. Williamson
March 24, 2018
If You Hate Guns, I Need Your Help
In regard to the ATF making a rule to ban bump stocks.
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

They want you dead

I had been thinking about it for a while but didn’t want to go through the work of finding all the old posts but someone in the comments (Drew Rinella) suggested I create a new category “They want you dead”. So, when I woke up at 3:00 AM this morning and couldn’t go back to sleep I got on my computer and created the new category, did a bunch of searching for the posts that matched, and edited them to include them in the category.

I then did some catch up on reading other blogs and found this:

guncontrolwantsyoudead

So very apropos.

Quote of the day—Matt Vespa

The tragic shooting at Marjory Stoneman in Parkland, Florida was preventable; state, federal, and local authorities failed to enforce the laws that could have stopped shooter Nikolas Cruz from committing this heinous act, even from buying the rifle. No one chose to do anything. The anti-gun Left are a viral disease. They’re a recurring form of shingles. You may not see them all the time, but you’ll know when they come and say ‘hey.’ The battle continues—and in the fight to save our Bill of Rights, it’s not extreme to say ‘hell no’ to every one of their demands.

Matt Vespa
April 2, 2018
Anti-Gun Media: We Never Said We Wanted To Repeal The Second Amendment…Uh, Yes You Did
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

This is what they think of you

Via Matt Vespa:

NoMoreGuns

There are at least two lessons to be learned from this picture.

  • Don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you no one wants to take your guns.
  • If they are this hostile toward us when we are armed with guns and lots of ammo just imagine what they will be like if we didn’t have the means to defend ourselves.

Quote of the day—Bill Murray

The thing that’s so powerful about students is that, when you haven’t had your idealism broken yet, you’re able to speak from a place that has no confusion, where there is a clear set of values.

Bill Murray
March 22, 2018
Bill Murray Endorses Gun Control Movement, Compares Parkland Students to Vietnam War Protesters
[This reminds me of something I saw on Facebook. A parent wrote about how proud they were that their children were being “leaders” in regards to gun control. This was a place were I couldn’t confront them, but I wanted to ask, “Would you want your kids being “leaders” on foreign policy too? If not, then why do you want them being “leaders” on domestic policy?

When the German National Socialists passed the Weapons Control Act of 1938 I’ll bet you could have found lots of people who said essentially the same thing as what Murray says about gun control. Idealism, check. No confusion, check. Clear set of values, check.

The same could be said for many those who supported the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, Westboro Baptist Church, and Marxists.

In most cases there are also succinct words for these type of people. “Ignorant”, “Prejudiced”, and “Bigoted”.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Stephen P. Halbrook

American students deserve better than to be placed in “gun free” killing zones. They deserve better than to live in an authoritarian regime in which only the military, the police and criminals possess firearms.

And they deserve to live in a society in which all provisions of the Bill of Rights are respected, where those who claim to be law enforcement actually do their jobs, and where they are protected in fact from those who would do harm.

Stephen P. Halbrook
March 2, 2018
Blame for Parkland Rests with Local School Officials and FBI Ineptitude
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jeff Snyder

The people, among the most highly regulated on earth, told themselves that they were free because they retained the means of revolt. Just in case things ever got really bad. No one, however, seemed to have too clear an idea what “really bad” really meant. The people accepted the fact that their government no longer even remotely resembled the plan set forth in their original constitution. And the people’s values no longer remotely resembled those of their Founding Forebears. The people, in their naiveté, really believed that the means of revolt were to be found in a piece of inanimate metal! Really it was laughable. And pathetic.

No, the rulers knew that the people could safely be trusted with arms. The government educated their children, provided for their retirement in old age, bequeathed assistance if they lost their jobs, mandated that they receive health care, and even doled out food and shelter if they were poor.

Jeff Snyder
October 18, 2004
Walter Mitty’s Second Amendment
[This relates to what Lyle said the other day.

I have Snyder’s Nation of Cowards which is a collection of his essays. Nearly every paragraph of every essays qualifies as QOTD material. And as Sean F. told me a few months ago, Snyder is just mind blowing with his views on the right to keep and bear arms. If I could get every anti-gun person to read just one simple book, this would be it. I’m tempted to buy a stack of them and hand them out to people. It is absolutely amazing stuff.—Joe]

Quote of the day—W.F.

The main reason pro-gun people and anti-gun people can’t talk to each other is that their respective rhetorics are based on two irreconcilable worldviews. The anti-gun people are essentially collectivist; the pro-gun people are essentially individualist.

Individualists have a pretty good understanding of the collectivist worldview. It isn’t difficult for most pro-gun people to perform a convincing imitation of the anti-gun argument. Anti-gun people, on the other hand, seem genuinely incapable of understanding pro-gun arguments, and end up arguing against strawmen tainted by their own collectivist ideology. This leads me to believe that collectivism is an intellectual crutch for those who can’t make sense of individualism.

W.F.
2018?
Explaining Irreconcilable Worldviews Between Pro-Gun and Anti-Gun Activists
This has also been attributed to “Randy Caudie”. See for example here.
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—JRG #NunesMustGo‏ @SimonSaysBooHoo

If only you 2A yahoos were being killed, there would be no need for Miss Gonzalez’s movement. Unfortunately, it’s innocents who are paying w/their lives.

2AYahoos

JRG #NunesMustGo‏ @SimonSaysBooHoo
Tweeted on March 24, 2018
[This is what they think of you: If you are a Second Amendment supporter you are not innocent. Your death would make the world a better place.

In other words, they want you dead.

Don’t ever forget the most important reason to own guns is to protect ourselves from progressives.—Joe]

Resetting their mind with facts

Facts can matter to people:

We often see anti-gun people being immune to facts and running completely on emotions and beliefs that have no connection to reality. Here we see something different. Why?

I think When Prophecy Fails (see also my website about the book) gives us the answers. The following conditions are from the book. These are the conditions which must exist to create the condition for a “true believer” to “double down” and try to recruit more believers to their faulty belief system when confronted with disproof of their faulty belief system. All five of these conditions must exist in order for this to happen. Hence, if you can break just one of these conditions they will stop their journey down their delusional path:

  1. A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.
  2. The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual’s commitment to the belief.
  3. The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
  4. Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
    The first two of these conditions specify the circumstances that will make the belief resistant to change. The third and fourth conditions together, on the other hand, point to factors that would exert powerful pressure on a believer to discard his belief. It is, of course, possible that an individual, even though deeply convinced of a belief, may discard it in the face of unequivocal disconfirmation.  We must therefore, state a fifth condition specifying the circumstances under which the belief will be discarded and those under which it will be maintained with new fervor.
  5. The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence we have specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, we would expect the belief to be maintained and the believers to attempt to proselyte or to persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.

And this gives us the answer on how to change minds. We see it in the video above. They were not within their social support group. They are extremely social animals. We tend to be individualists. Anti-gun people tend to be herd animals. These people require social support. If you can isolate them, even for a very short time, and present facts then they are likely to break from their delusion.

Another thing that was important is these people read the facts out loud. They didn’t just hear someone tell them the facts. Visual is much better than audible. Having them saying the words is even better. That strikes much deeper than them skimming the words and saying they read it. It reaches the visual and auditory areas of their brains as well as the conscious thinking part of their brain (required for the translation from text to spoken words).

This was brilliant.

When your anti-gun friend or relative is separated from other anti-gun people hand them a piece of paper and ask them to read it out loud, “So we can talk about this together.”

The facts used in this video:

  • According to the CDC there were roughly 38,000 gun deaths in the 2016. 2/3 of them were suicides.
  • There are over 300,000,000 guns in the United States.
  • There are over 5x more murders by knives than rifles.
  • The U.S. has the highest gun ownership rate in the world. But ranks 28th in gun murders.
  • That is a rate of about 2.97 deaths per 100,000 people.
  • Handguns are responsible for more than 80% of total mass shootings.
  • Between 1993 and 2003 gun ownership increased by 56% while gun violence decreased by nearly half.
  • Since 1950 nearly all mass public shootings have occurred in gun free zones.
  • From 2013 to 2015 the six states that banned open carry, experienced higher rates of police deaths.
  • 86.4% of 20,000 police chiefs and sheriffs support concealed carry and are overwhelming against further gun control.
  • Those that have concealed carry permits, on average, commit less crime than police.
  • There is a clear correlation between higher firearm ownership and reducing police killings.
  • Switzerland with a population of about eight million and armed with an estimated two million guns in circulation and limited gun regulation Switzerland’s overall gun homicide rate is practically zero.
  • Gun ownership rate does not correlate with the homicide rate.

Principles are vital for the long term. But principles require the thinking part of the brain to be engaged. You cannot have a principled discussion with a mob chanting for your death. This is how you get their mind reset to a point where principles have a chance of reaching them.

Quote of the day—John Paul Stevens

Demonstrators should seek more effective and more lasting reform. They should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment.

A constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option.

John Paul Stevens
Former U.S. Supreme Court Justice
March 27, 2018
John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment
[H/T to Paul Koning.

Although it doesn’t seem to be they are saying it these days, don’t ever let anyone get away with telling you that no one wants to take your guns.

Apparently Stevens has forgotten about U S v Cruikshank:

The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.

Oh, and I think he is also unaware there is the small matter of 300 to 600 million firearms currently in circulation, extremely low compliance with existing requirements to register or turn in firearms, over 60% of the police say they will not enforce more restrictive gun laws, and the tens of billions of rounds of ammunition that will have to be “collected” before the guns are confiscated.—Joe]

DON’T DO THAT!!!!

Even if this is true, unexpected by rational people, and newsworthy DON’T publish this sort of stuff about mass murderers:

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – Mass murderer [scum bag] is getting stacks of fan mail and love letters sent to the Broward County jail, along with hundreds of dollars in contributions to his commissary account.

Teenage girls, women and even older men are writing to the Parkland school shooter and sending photographs – some suggestive – tucked inside cute greeting cards and attached to notebook paper with offers of friendship and encouragement. Groupies also are joining Facebook communities to talk about how to help the killer.

The murderer getting attention and fame is a big part of why we have copycats. Yes, we have a First Amendment that protects this publication, but an irresponsible media that publishes even the names of mass shooters bears far more responsibility for copycat murders than the NRA and all gun owner in the U.S. combined.

I have to believe they want more mass shootings. They cannot be that stupid. They cannot have such total crap for brains and still be able to breathe on their own.

Quote of the day—Magistrate Barry

I am shocked that you are here. You don’t belong here. I don’t know why the police have pursued it as far as they have.

Magistrate Barry
2014
I faced a 14-year jail sentence for carrying pepper spray
[The same words would be applicable the vast majority of people charged with the violation of gun laws.

H/T to Kris R. who sent me the link via a Facebook message.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Rich Burgess

There may be many different answers to school shootings and other massacres. There may be none. One thing that cannot be argued by rational people is that the answer to these realities cannot consist of advocating more violence against people, whether it be at the hands of deranged lunatics or the government. Disarming individuals has never, and cannot make those individuals safer.

Rich Burgess
President of Connecticut Carry
March 26, 2018
With Regards to the ‘March for our Lives’
Emotional Collectivism Makes You Vulnerable To Those With Bad Intentions
[I have nothing to add.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Jean Dupont‏ @laceydupont

Your gun doesn’t make your dick look bigger. It makes you look like a bigger dick!

MarkleysLaw

Jean Dupont‏ @laceydupont
Tweeted on March 25, 2018
[It’s another Markley’s Law Monday!

They have crude insults and we have SCOTUS decisions.—Joe]

Quote of the day—Ken Levy

The entire reason we have 300+ million guns to defend against is because decades-long efforts to stop this proliferation (mostly by Democrats) have been defeated by public officials (mostly Republicans) insisting that these efforts conflict with the Second Amendment. In this way, the Second Amendment is being used to solve the very problem that it was instrumental in creating.

Ken Levy
March 22, 2018
The (Current) Gun-Control Debate Is Not Really About Gun Control
CrapForBrains

[Apparently Mr. Levy is unaware of a large number of facts that anyone with a firm grasp on reality knows, such as:

Hence, one has to conclude that Mr. Levy has crap for brains and/or is deliberately lying.—Joe]