See also A process failure aka Peterson Syndrome and truth and falsity for more glimpses inside their minds.
From the comments to Quote of the day—Pigdowndog @Pigdowndog. Please be cautious in extrapolating these results to other people, especially if they come from a different country and/or demographic.
My quick look for more information on Pigdowndog resulted in moderate confidence he is in the range of 75 to 85 years old, lived a number of years in southern France, and I have high confidence he currently lives Southwest of London.
In my initial QOTD post, I said “Simple logic for simple minds.” I way over estimated his ability to think logically. Sorry about that. But he arrived on scene and didn’t take long to correct my error. Here is the evidence:
pkoning on October 18, 2021 at 6:42 am said:
You mean the UK, where a defenseless MP was murdered just days ago by a knife wielding religious fanatic?
Toastrider on October 18, 2021 at 6:50 am said:
And that’s with knife control in England.
Lulz.
Pigdowndog on October 23, 2021 at 3:09 am said:
There is no knife control in the UK apart from an age limit to buying them which is wholly sensible.
You’re right about the murder of an M.P. being tragic but that doesn’t mean that he should have been armed.
Even if he was do you think he would have had a chance to reach for the gun before the knife struck?
It’s real life, not Hollywood.
Thankfully those horrendous events are rare over here unlike over there.
Joe on October 23, 2021 at 10:01 am said:
I still would like to know what color the sky is in your universe. It’s very clear we do not live in the same reality. In my universe U.K. law states:
The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.
Basic laws on knives
It’s illegal to possess a banned knife or weapon. It’s also illegal to:bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give someone a banned knife or weapon
carry any knife in public without good reason, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches long
sell a knife to anyone under the age of 18, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches longThe list of banned knives is long and includes batons and blowpipes.
Pigdowndog on October 24, 2021 at 2:44 am said:
You conveniently left out;
“carry any knife in public without good reason, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches long”
“use any knife in a threatening way”
“Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason.”
All sensible sanctions as our knife crime is far too prevalent.
Your gun crime also is far too prevalent but your government just turns a blind eye to the consequences of allowing anyone to possess a killing machine.
I’m more than happy that we have protections in place that attempt to solve the problem rather than allow the carnage to carry on regardless of the outcome.
At first I was a bit perplexed. Is this someone suffering from Alzheimer’s and can’t remember what they said just the day before? It could be. But we’ve seen inability to follow logic or respond logically from Joan Peterson who I doubt was at the age where Alzheimer was a likely explanation.
After thinking about it some I am more inclined to believe they are not suffering from Alzheimer’s or other dementia. If that were the case I think the clues would show up in his twitter posts.
The weird inability to think logically and conform their claims to the hard reality is common in anti-gun people. Many of them simply do not accept reality. How else do you explain this?
Yesterday morning he claimed, “
There is no knife control in the UK apart from an age limit to buying them…
After I linked to and quote U.K. listing numerous knife regulations on the carry of knives and the bans of many common knives he came back less than 24 hours later and said I had “conveniently left out” further knife regulations. What? There is no knife control but when I don’t list all the knife laws he claims some sort victory by adding to the list of controls that supposedly don’t exist?
He then doubles down on the contradictions. Yesterday, referring to a stabbing, he said:
Thankfully those horrendous events are rare over here…
This morning he claims:
our knife crime is far too prevalent
There are other things I could point out but this should be more than sufficient to draw the appropriate conclusion.
These are symptoms of someone with mental problems. It may not be dementia but things between the ears are not in working order. It’s almost certainly Peterson Syndrome.
The exchange between the two people here falls into that category of
“never wrassle with a pig, you’ll only get dirty and the pig will enjoy it”
combined with “never argue with an idiot, they just drag you down to their
level and beat you with experience”.
There can never be a rational discussion/debate/discourse with the “anti” ANYTHING people. They are incapable of rationality.
“They are incapable of rationality.”
Do you mean the rationale of not wanting people to die unnecessarily?
” “anti” ANYTHING people.”
A big assumption there Dan!
I’m certainly anti gun violence which doesn’t appear to worry you.
You are “anti-GUN violence”?
Does that mean you support other types of violence?
Please describe which types you support and explain your reasoning.
I stand by my words that there is no knife control in the UK.
I read it as “criminal control”.
I can buy a knife, which I have recently, and walk home safe in the knowledge that I won’t be prosecuted by the police as I’m not a criminal.
Subtle ain’t it Joe?
“He then doubles down on the contradictions. Yesterday, referring to a stabbing, he said:
Thankfully those horrendous events are rare over here…
This morning he claims:
our knife crime is far too prevalent”
Surely things can be rare and too prevalent?
One death by stabbing is too many in my world.
It probably explains why you gun advocates just shrug off the thousands upon thousands of dead citizens as a by product of your “right” to a killing machine.
Lunacy at its finest!
The rest of your diatribe mocking my age and intimating my mental health is failing is probably what I expect but just highlights the paucity of your argument if you have to resort to lowering the debate to that level.
You are literally incoherent and self-contradicting.
If you disagree with this analysis, explain your reasoning for giving such bizarrely contradictory assertions.
Getting back to ‘killing machines’, true enough. The firearm is probably one of the most efficient weapons conceived. It requires only a moderate amount of training (as opposed to a sword or bow) and can be operated by even the weakest hands.
So what is your justification for putting those ‘weakest hands’ at risk? Why do you hate women and the elderly so, Piggy?
And that doesn’t even get into minorities. Gun control in the U.S. is an evolution of the old Jim Crow laws. How long have you hated blacks, Piggy?
Without guns, the physically strong and fit rule. Period.
Your disgusting comments are not worthy of a civil reply.
Please define the words “prevalent” and “rare”. Then explain how something can qualify as meeting both definitions simultaneously.
One death is too many? Then surely one death prevented by the defensive possession, carry, and/or use of a firearm justifies allowing people to possess, carry, and use firearms defensively (as is their natural right).
And if “one death is too many,” surely he must be anti- Covid vaxx, as it has killed well over a thousand just in the UK by their own official number, more than 15k dead in the US VAERS system, more than 20k dead in the EU vaccine adverse event tracking system, and more than 30k dead in Brazil’s equivalent system. If that’s not too many dead for a “preventative” for a disease as lethal as the common flu, what is?
Also, how on earth can a person equate “no knife control” with “possible to buy at least one type and carry it home in one location?” Sort of like saying you have free speech because you are allowed to say “I don’t like the paint-job on the king’s new car.”
And simultaneously pro-vax because of those who died because they weren’t vaccinated.
Simple logic for simple minds.
“Simple logic for simple minds”
Irony at its finest Joe!
Why on Earth would I be anti-vax against a natural formed virus?
Not sure if you’ve noticed but guns don’t form naturally.
As to knife control I refer you to my answer to Joe.
Life isn’t black and white, it’s more subtle than that.
I find it very telling that you avoid addressing the points we make. Or is it that you are incapable of comprehending simple analogies?
The mind of an anti-gun advocate is truly a wonder to behold.
Pigdowndog appears to be Joey Biden under a pseudonym.
The incoherence seems to be similar, anyway.
Yes. Aren’t they all, Joe Bidens? Their commun-ist, because they share the same ten brain cells collectively.
My right to a “killing machine,” as pigdog calls it, is ABSOLUTE. I carry one every day, and funny thing: it has never killed anyone. Millions of us carry every day, and it has been proved that we are the most law-abiding segment of America. If I ever have to take a life in self-defense, it will be justified. It is better than being helpless.
I hope pigdog stays out of America’s free states. He might suffer a loss of bladder control just from guessing that there might be a “killing machine” in the vehicle next to his rental car.
I can spell “they’re” though.
I’m sure Backwoods Engineer can as well… when that is what he means.
@Pigdowndog, you apparently need to work on your reading comprehension.
The practical definition of Leftism is:
The abject denial of the existence of reality.
I have found that these people (the totalitarian progressive movement) have a strange but pervasive detachment from reality as they pursue their imagined utopia. When the state hospital system existed for mental health patients, I firmly believe a lot of these people would have been residents.
I’ve joked that we should issue them copies of games like the Sims or Civilization, so they can act out their control-freak fantasies without disturbing the rest of us.
I had a discussion this morning with my lady about how leftist can hold multiple contradictory ideas at the same time. In this case there is a group of people that are demanding ID and proof of vaccine in order to enter a venue while at the same time actively fighting voter ID because “racist”.
What I’ve noted consistently is that the leftist will decide on the stance they are taking based on the outcome they desire. They then come up with justifications for that stance.
“I don’t want guns around therefore…” and you hear all sorts of excuses that may or may not justify that stance. “If it saves just one life then it is worth it.” They may not be able to accept Defensive Gun Use as a viable reason for wanting to have the ability to defend yourself.
At the same time, they can have a different stance that they want “I don’t want minorities in prison/jail” And the excuse is “racism” totally ignoring the “if it saves just one life we really should lock up people that assault others instead of release them on a low bail.”
Or maybe Yuri Bezmenov was correct in his assessment of the effects of subversion?
Mr. Pig is the finest example I’ve ever witnessed. Logic and reason no longer exist in a recognizable form. Empirical evidence and facts, intellectual exercise, rhetoric, humor, insult, all have proven to be of no avail.
If looking for evidence of something more dense than 1 second before the big bang?
You’ve found it.
And as Jesus told us, “Shake the very dust of them from your heels.” Seems to be the only answer.
Thank you, Joe.
More goalpost moving than the shipping department of a football stadium equipment supplier.
Even back in 1979 when I was stationed in the UK. The Buck 110 was my pocket carry as it it was the largest knife a GI could carry off base and not run afoul of the local constabulary.
I don’t know about back then, but now it would almost certainly get you in trouble anywhere in the UK.
Great knives, but uncomfortably large for my hands. I get along better with a 55 or a 112 (but that would still get me into trouble in a lot of places).
Pig dog down:
“I stand by my words that there is no knife control in the U.K.
I read it as ‘Criminal Control’.”
That’s some mighty impressive ‘legalese’ you are practicing there!
Are you some kind of legal expert versed in law? Can you provide any justification or case law that backs up this utter absurdity?
The act of carrying a knife hurts nobody and knives are tools essential to daily life.
Shouldn’t your ‘Criminal Control’ concentrate on those people who actually violate laws in which there are actual victims? You know, assault, murder, robbery, etc.
We have a similar situation in this country that features repeat firearm offenders given sentences far less than the law allows( virtually every other crime is a similar situation).
How does this serve the public?