New Jersey must have a stupidity force field

From pages 41 and 42 of the ruling in Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, Inc.; Blake Ellman; Alexander Dembrowski, Appellants v. Attorney General New Jersey; Superintendent New Jersey State Police on appeal from the United States district court
for the district of New Jersey (see also A Powerful Dissent Charges Judges Who Casually Uphold Magazine Restrictions With Disrespecting the Second Amendment and Third Circuit upholds NJ’s ban on magazines holding more than ten rounds.). “LCM” means “Large Capacity Magazine” which in this context is anything greater than 10 rounds. This is a decrease from the previous restriction on magazine capacity which was 15 rounds:

Plaintiffs assert that the Act violates the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause because it allows retired law enforcement officers to possess LCMs while prohibiting retired military members and ordinary citizens from doing so. N.J. Stat. Ann. 2C:39-3(g), 2C:39-17. Plaintiffs have not shown that retired law enforcement officers are similarly situated to other New Jersey residents. Retired law enforcement officers have training and experience not possessed by the general public. Kolbe, 849 F.3d at 147 (holding that retired law enforcement officers “are not similarly situated to the general public with respect to the assault weapons and large-capacity magazines banned”). Police officers in New Jersey must participate in firearms and defensive tactics training, including mandatory range and classroom training, under a variety of simulated conditions. App. 144; see, e.g., App. 1361, 1369, 1368, 1383. Law enforcement officers are also tested on a periodic basis after initial qualification and must re-qualify twice a year and meet certain shooting proficiency requirements. App. 144-45; see App. 1322-410 (describing standards, requirements, and full courses for law enforcement firearms qualification). Retired law enforcement officers must also satisfy firearms qualification requirements. N.J. Stat. Ann. 2C:39-6(l). Moreover, because the standard-issue weapon for many New Jersey law enforcement officers is a Glock 19 with a loaded fifteen round magazine, App. 116-17, these officers have experience carrying and using LCMs. Thus, law enforcement officers, both active and retired, have training and experience that distinguishes them from the general public.

Law enforcement officers are also different from members of the military. Unlike military personnel trained for the battlefield, law enforcement officers are trained for and have experience in addressing volatile situations in both public streets and closed spaces, and they operate in noncombat zones where the Constitution and other rules apply. App. 148-49. Even if some military members receive firearms training comparable to the training law enforcement officers receive, App. 140-41, the scope and nature of their training and experience are different, App. 141, 147-49.

For these reasons, retired law enforcement officers are not similarly situated to retired military personnel and ordinary citizens, and therefore their exemption from the LCM ban does not violate the Equal Protection Clause.

Also of note is that New Jersey residents have until Monday to get rid of all their magazines with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.

Interesting logic going on here. I didn’t know that people in New Jersey were so stupid that the difference between using a 10 round magazine and a 15 round magazine required so much training and experience. And that, furthermore, no matter how much training you had in the military to use magazines with capacities greater than 10 you still aren’t capability of using one once you set foot into New Jersey. It must be that New Jersey has some sort of naturally occurring “stupidity force field” where people become stupid and incompetent once they step across the state border into their political jurisdiction.

But it must be true. How else would legislators and judges dream up and insist everyone believe something so stupid as the above?

14 thoughts on “New Jersey must have a stupidity force field

  1. So in New Jersey I can carry three 10 round magazines for a total of 30 rounds, but I can’t carry one magazine containing one half that same round count? And everyone is safer as a result? Am I understanding this correctly?

  2. I can carry two guns each containing 10+1 rounds for a total of 22 rounds, but I can’t carry one gun containing only 15 rounds? And this in some way reduces crime? Am I understanding this correctly?

  3. So average New Jersey residents and veterans have the skill to safely fire 10 lethal rounds at a time in self defense, but if they fired 11 lethal rounds at a time without POST training it would create a dangerous situation? Am I understanding all of this correctly? And this law upheld by judicial apologetics is causing a reduction in violent crime in New Jersey, right?

  4. Oh. I forgot that our citizens have already been brainwashed and are compliant. Guns evil! Control good!

    Saving just one innocent life is worth many of ours.

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  6. That force-field of stupidity has metastasized to California, where the same mag limit has been the law for a long time, and mail-order ammunition is now bad, very bad. How these laws reduce crime is not clear, although the proponents of them have assured us they’ve done thought experiments and the laws are tremendous boons to ordinary citizens.

    • If magazine limits reduce violent crime, then Idaho – where I can purchase any size magazine – should have the highest violent crime rate per capita, followed by Colorado with a law restricting mag size to 15 rounds, followed by New Jersey with a 10 round cap, followed by New York state with the lowest violent crime rate in the nation thanks to their 7 round magazine capacity law. We can additionally extrapolate that Honduras and El Salvador – where the very ownership of a firearm is subject to substantial restrictions – are the safest countries in the world. I can’t fathom why all those poor Hondurans so desperately wish to leave that paradise and come live in this war torn American shithole of gun violence. It’s common sense.

  7. I’m starting to think the solution is to apply hard pressure to those states.

    Namely, since they don’t recognize our God-given rights, don’t recognize theirs. Stop accepting their state driver’s licenses and license plates at face value — or at all.

    • For some reason I still don’t understand before the “full faith and credit” portion of the constitution comes into play Congress must passed a law and it is signed by the president saying it applies to a particular license. Drivers licenses have gone through this process. CWPs have not. Hence if states were to fail to recognize other states drivers licenses then the failure to recognize the DL would be a violation of Federal Law. Failure to recognize CWPs is not against the law in this bizarre failure of “full faith and credit” universe we live in.

      • Its because politicians — including judges — don’t give a flying f*** about the clear and plain meaning of the simple English in the Constitution.

        • Except for the part that in clear language enumerates the right to abort babies. They do care about that part. I hope I can read it someday but I haven’t found it yet.

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