Quote of the day—Robert Spitzer

A cluster of issues come together with gun rights zealots. They’re predominantly older white males who think the country is falling apart at the seams; they’re suspicious of outsiders, and quick to blame others for issues the country may face. The worldview typical of an NRA member is the same as that of a far-right conservative person. This is the group that has been very important for the Trump coalition.

Robert Spitzer
February 3, 2017
In Trump’s America, Nothing’s Off the Table for the NRA
[You just keep thinking that.

Reality may be a bit different. Barb and I went to the range last weekend and about half of the people there were women.—Joe]

13 thoughts on “Quote of the day—Robert Spitzer

  1. This long list of unsubstantiated and unsourced stereotypes is bigotry writ large. How does he know our ethnic make-up, what we think, or whom we blame for the lawlessness in this country? He claims to have some great insight into the average NRA member, but I’ll bet he has never met one in the flesh. A perfect definition of a bigot.

    • He’s a bigot alright.
      He’s a deluded bigot.
      As long as his mind is clouded by his delusions, he will keep losing.

  2. Projecting, much? I note his “service” portion is all about talking to the media.
    Politics of Gun Control has a whopping two reviews. His The Gun Debate: An Encyclopedia of Gun Control & Gun Rights has zero reviews… of course, with a >$150 price tag… Other editions have slightly more reviews… but only slightly.

    In other words, he’s applying a strong negative stereotype and claiming it’s true to paint an entire group negatively. I.e., bigotry, plain and simple. He’s an academic, what do you expect?

    Are there aging white guys who correctly observe the world around them and say quietly “rough times ahead…” as they stock up and prepare? Yes, most definitely. You should listen to them, not deride them. People mocked Noah, too, as I recall reading somewhere. Anyone who doesn’t consider the possibility of needing a guns… likely going to need to rethink his position soon.

  3. Why, Media, would we be distrustful of you?

    Is it because every time we trust you and give an interview it’s selectively edited to make us look bad (at best) or evil (at worst)?

    It’s not “outsiders” we’re distrustful of, we love teaching new folks how to shoot and introducing them to our hobby. You just never see anything but distrust because we don’t trust YOU in particular.

  4. And as for stereotyping and unwarranted assumptions about beliefs, what does he mean by “far-right conservative person”?
    Generally Leftists can’t imagine anything to the right of their brothers, the fascists. The least amount of government they can imagine allows people to own stuff but regulates every aspect of what people can do with it.

    • To the media and the Dems (but I repeat myself), Mao is a centerist, and anyone on the other side of Che is “far right,” “hard right,” or “right-wing extremist.” There are no “moderately right of center” positions or people, and the only “acceptable conservative” are people like David Brooks who claim to be conservative, but are spineless cuckservative weasels that cannot conserve anything, and sell out and fold on every single issue the moment anyone calls them Nazi or gets indignant. And God forbid you confuse them with straddling any pair of issues, like being pro-choice on guns AND abortion, or being OK with state welfare systems and against FedGov welfare, or being fine with miscegenation but against immigration.

      • Court nominees expose this nicely: anyone who has even the slightest respect for the Constitution is condemned as “far right” and “way outside the mainstream”. The only acceptable nominees are those who think the Constitution means whatever they want it to mean any particular day.

        • I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. who put it, “The meaning of the Constitution should not depend on the state of the Judge’s digestion that morning.”
          And these same people who want the Constitution to mean whatever they want it to mean on any particular day would raise hell like no one has seen if they were to discover that the bank had interpreted their mortgage contract that way, to their detriment.

  5. ” … predominantly older white males who think the country is falling apart at the seams; they’re suspicious of outsiders, and quick to blame others for issues the country may face. The worldview typical of an NRA member is the same as that of a far-right conservative person.”

    You make this sound like A Bad Thing.

    Tell me how the country is not falling apart, with the divisiveness we’ve seen in the past few months when the left is weeping in the streets because a Conservative has been elected president. That sounds like a “falling apart” moment, to me .. and we have all seen the videos liberal voters bowing their heads as if their mere existence has been threatened by the election of Trump as President.

    ” .. quick to blame others for issues the country may face … ”

    Um .. well, Obama has been president for eight years, leading the country into a place which is ” .. no country for old men … “. When Conservatives lament the direction our leadership had chosen, and which conservatives would rather not endure, that is deciphered as being “quick to blame others”.

    (You make that sound like A Bad Thing.)

    But when a Conservative is elected President, and liberals are literally weeping in the streets,, nobody accuses them of being ” .. quick to blame others for issues the country may face … “.

    “… The worldview typical of an NRA member is the same as that of a far-right conservative person.”

    What a coincidence. The National Rifle Association is almost entirely composed of CONSERVATIVES .. hello, would you like to define the term?

    How many Liberals who hate the Second Amendment are members of the NRA?

    Clever phrases and dismissive attitudes toward people who do not espouse “Strong Federal Government Is A Way To Make Your Life Better” (Liberals) are not a cogent argument against the politics of people (Conservatives) who think that …
    Government is a leach upon the electorate.

    Until this dichotomy is resolved, Liberals and Conservatives will always be bitter foes, more intent upon undermining the political philosophy of their ‘enemies’ than striving to find a common ground.

    And the crux of the argument seems to be that Liberals want to undermine the Second Amendment, while conservatives want to support it.

    Well, the Constitution is “.. A Living Document …” and worthy of redefinition according to the current political climate, rather than cleaving to a philosophy long established by a group of men who had only just fought their way out from under an oppressive government.

    But what did they know?

  6. And reality is always different for them.
    That’s why they get so upset by dissent, it’s the “Emperor’s New Clothes” every step of the way, and if anyone stops believing, everyone stops believing and their “reality” disappears like a soap bubble on a Summer day.
    As L. Sprague de Camp said once, “Truth is what remains after you stop believing.”

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