Militant Islamist Wahhibi douchebags want to kill you. Period. Don’t make excuses for them. Don’t try to explain them away. They literally want you to submit or die. This isn’t rocket science. Just ask them. They’ll tell you.
Larry Correia
November 16, 2015
Thoughts on Paris
[This is probably one of the most important points you must understand in this war. This isn’t something you can negotiate with them about. It’s not about some piece of desert which contains oil, forcing capitalism on them, poverty, or some misunderstanding that some “smart diplomacy” can fix. You cannot bargain with them anymore than you can bargain with a psychopath who wants to torture and kill you for his pleasure of watching you suffer and die.
You might get concessions from them that slow their attack some. But their long term goals and nature have not changed since the origin of Islam hundreds of years ago. Our country has fought since Jefferson was president. Reading about their mindset and their attitudes at that time is eerily similar to what I read about them now. I am firmly convinced the only long term options we have are:
- A low grade war or series of wars that never ends.
- We are conquered by them.
- We fight to win and completely destroy the religion as it is currently interpreted by those who demand world domination.
The only questions are which option do we chose and if we chose to fight and win how do we do that. I read one post on Facebook by someone I greatly admire which said, in part,
It’s not going away from magical thoughts.
“You can’t kill your way out of this war/to victory”
Really? I guess you’ve never heard of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We killed the fucking shit out of them and they cried uncle and never raised a fist against us again.
In fact, no war has even been won in the history of mankind that was won any way but killing so many of the enemy that HE admitted he was beaten.
It’s not a good option. There are no good options. This is only the best option.
The Islamic people attacking the west have explicitly said:
The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.
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We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling’s, and trading with interest.
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You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator.
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If you fail to respond to all these conditions, then prepare for fight with the Islamic Nation. The Nation of Monotheism, that puts complete trust on Allah and fears none other than Him.
Their religious belief is that non-believers must convert, submit, or die. We must chose the option which they do not offer. That option is that we fight and completely neutralize those who insist the world be Islamic.—Joe]
The choice we face is really simple: win or lose.
In the past, when brought to such a choice, Western Civilization has always chosen to win, despite the horrific cost to our enemies.
Why our newest enemies never remember this is a mystery to me. Our enemy’s only choices are to stop bothering us, and survive, or bother us to the point they will cease to exist. Why do they think we have this military? Why do they think we have the nukes? When deterrence stops working, those nukes are still there, and may God help the enemy then.
“Why our newest enemies never remember this is a mystery to me.”
They remember. It’s just that their religious fanaticism convinces them that they cannot lose, because God/Allah is on their side. They could be facing Mobile Infantry in full Battle Armor with their bare hands, and they would still attack us.
Religious fanaticism is simply incompatible with honest reason and logic.
It’s been said it takes “two to tango.” True, but it only takes one to wage war. If you don’t fight back you lose.
I keep hearing about this “civil war” among “extremists” and “moderate” muslims, but I don’t actually see the moderates doing much fighting – only dieing under the blades and explosions of the violent extreme. I hear about all the moderates in Iran… but they are not the ones running the show. etc., etc., etc.
Correia has the right of it – our mere existence is the problem, much as the hoplophobes think the existence of guns is the problem, and the “progressives” on campus think conservatives mere existence is the problem, or the “people of color” who think white folks mere existence makes them a problem. It’s not dialogue and compromise and solutions they seek – it id death, destruction, and power. They will happily use our desire to follow the law and sense of fair play against us, without a second thought about the long-term consequences, or the “other” they see all who are not just like them.
Act accordingly.
I fear that our nation no longer has the will to fight to win. As was stated, to win requires mass killing of the enemy, including the women and children with them and any other “innocents” in the area. In the past we could do that because pictures of the body parts were not in the media within minutes. The country as a whole does not have the will to look past those images at the greater good.
My guess is we will follow option one with a never ending low grade war. There will be occasional terror attacks which upgrades that war for a short time but it will never go far enough to massively kill the enemy.
Then through open borders, refugees and reproduction that war will eventually move to US soil. I could see the US breaking into areas such as Iraq with the Sunni, Shite and Kurd areas, only in the US it would Redneck, Mountain, and Muslim.
As someone on this site occasionally says, we live in interesting times.
We don’t have to slaughter all the muslims. What we need to do is
1. Stop letting them into the US, and send the ones that are here back.
2. Stop toppling stable sandbox governments.
3. Break free from foreign oil by ending most of our (U.S.) global trade, and using our own oil and coal. Sure this will increase gas prices here at first. But if we send the post-65 immigrants back, and revitalize our manufacturing by ending trade with Red China and abolishing the EPA, our economy will stabilize at a high standard of living again.
I’m not sure that using our own oil will help. The rest of the world isn’t in a position to do that.
What’s needed is a non-oil source of useable energy. Uranium fission is a possibility. Fusion would be if it ever becomes real — which it might, though the current big government projects that claim to aim there appear unlikely ever to deliver.
This will help, because it will take away the big money that currently flows into terrorism. Impoverish the sponsors of terrorism and the problem will die out. So long as the middle east is rich, it won’t.
We could cut off their supply of food, medicine, desalinization plants, etc.
That won’t work, because all of those can be bought anywhere.
The system of sovereign secular nations was established after the wars of the reformation, and codified in the Peace of Westphalia and related treaties. Decades of war had laid waste to Europe, leaving the various parts of Christendom ready to let go of Theocracy. It doesn’t always work very well, but the Islamists see the entire system as something to be destroyed. The resulting conflict could be devastating, Seventeenth Century style conflict multiplied by Twenty-first Century technology.
I view Option #2, our destruction, as possible, if we let Iran get nuclear weapons.
Their eschatology (i.e. end times religious viewpoint) demands that they precipitate a great war to usher in the 12th iman. Nothing we say or do will discourage them from this quest. So, total destruction of Iran is required. Pakistan should also be told to surrender all nuclear weapons and materials or be wiped out because they do share some of this religious fatalism.
My opinion of the POTUS and Kerry is that they are worse than traitors. Anyone who supports the agreement, which is improperly not being called a treaty, which would require Senate approval, is vermin.
On the brighter side, surely Israel recognizes the existential threat and will defang Iran via nuclear / EMP / or costly conventional attacks.
A nuke dropped right on top of their ultracentrifuge plant would certainly be a good option.
I don’t think we will ever have the political will for option #3. #2 isn’t an option. That leaves #1 the forever war. I don’t rule out MAD where everyone on the planet dies.
I opt for the fourth choice, too: kill them first, and use pig tainted weapons. Record it and spread it on Al JeerAmerica, and let them know we can send them to hell, by their own religion.