Sometimes I wish I could just expand the size of my gun safe a little bit. It seems like there should be room in it for another gun or the magazines but it just doesn’t seem to work out. And I don’t want to buy another safe. I’m cramped enough for floor space as it is.
A few days ago I was asked if I would link to web site for gun storage solutions. After looking at the site a bit I decided they had some good products and agreed.
The Rifle Rods and Mag Mounts look particularly interesting to me.
You can’t really expand the gun safe in a practical manner but you can get more stuff into it if you organize it better.
I’ve long wished for something in a fire resistant horizontal chest – it doesn’t have to be a real “safe” but does need to be fairly secure – for things like ammo and mags, and capable of performing double duty as a reasonably attractive bench seat or coffee table. American Security made one a while back, but AFAIK it’s been out of production for about a decade, and Tread Corporation’s Treadlock chest hasn’t been made since the ’80s and had no fire insulation. Someone – I forget who – is making an underbed horizontal safe, and building it into couches, but it’s way too spendy. There’s always commercial job boxes, but, again, no insulation, not enough security, not to mention who wants a Tim the Toolman steel box in the living room.
Amsec has a “defense vault” which is an under-the-bed box that can hold a long gun or two and/or some handguns and mags. It doesn’t show any signs of fire resistance, though.
qlinedesign.com makes nice (custom) furniture that hides stuff. Again, no signs of fire resistance. I wonder if they could add that.
qlinedesign.com makes furniture with hidden compartments. I don’t see fire proofing there, though. Ditto with the Amsec “defense vault” under-the-bed storage box.
I just spent quite a while reading articles here: http://gunsafereviewsguy.com/category/articles/. Nice stuff. One interesting argument he makes is that burglar resistance is a whole lot more important than fire resistance, given the probabilities of the two events happening.
How are your woodworking skills? A “job box” could be wrapped in hardwood veneer plywood and made to look like a coffee table by someone with a medium level of woodworking skills (i.e., more than I have. 🙁 )
One of the articles on that gunsafereviewsguy site describes how to add sheets of sheetrock to a strong box to make it a fire-resistant (at least moderately so) strong box.
I use both the products in my under sided safe like object. It is creepy dropping something down the barrel but it does work. If possible try to tier the upper surface that you attach the velcro to and the length of the long guns such that there is less of the plastic rod flexing.
What you need is a Tardis safe.
Hmmmm…wood dowels…glued in to a small block of wood or plywood…cut block in to circle…drill hole to glue dowel in to…Velcro…hmmm
Been planning on building a wooden cabinet to lock my stuff up in. No, not fire proof, but grandkid proof. This will definitely be how I store me toy…uh…guns. Until I can afford a safe, that is.
I feel you. When we built our house, I had built in a 4×8 walk in safe with vault door and I’m afraid of when I eventually fill that thing up…
One of the problems with the velcro rod system is essentially the main problem with any safe: Put enough long guns in there, and you have to move multiple items to access what you want. This is when they get banged up, in addition to the time and hassle.
The Lazy Susan/carousel design looks to be the most efficient setup, when employing a double layer (inner/outer ring). It does leave the 4 corners unfilled, but you should still be able to utilize those spots. Properly designed, you should only have to move one long gun to access any of the inner ring. Plus, you are doing it right up front and center, not reaching way in the back around multiple objects.
I live in earthquake country. I would be leery of depending on those velcro rods to hold long guns away from each other when the house starts shaking. Even if they hold the relative position of the muzzle, that still won’t keep the stocks and scopes and actions/rails, etc, from sliding and rotating into each other.
Not saying they’re not a useful storage tool, but I would consider them for very limited applications.