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  1. Shimming the state constitution, I came up with the following articles which I find pertinent.

    Washington State Constitution, article 1;

    SECTION 1 POLITICAL POWER. All political power is inherent in the people, and governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, and are established to protect and maintain individual rights.
    (Emphasis mine. Since the purpose of the constitution is to maintain individual rights, all subsequent laws, eat., should be viewed in that light)

    SECTION 2 SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land.
    (That would include the second amendment)

    SECTION 3 PERSONAL RIGHTS. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
    (This, practically speaking, is the exact same thing as the new initiative)

    SECTION 7 INVASION OF PRIVATE AFFAIRS OR HOME PROHIBITED. No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.
    (Again, this makes the new initiative redundant)

    SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.
    (Shall not be infringed, shall not be impaired, tomato, tomahto)

    And so, Ladies and Gentlemen, once again we have proposed law that is thoroughly and completely covered in existing laws that are being broken.

    “Don’t violate our construction or we’ll make a law saying you can’t violate our constitution! If you violate the law saying you can’t violate the constitution, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll……MAKE ANOTHER LAW!!”

    I’m sorry. Maybe I’m both ignorant and stupid, but someone will have to reveal and explain to me the new enforcement system for this new initiative, which is so different from the enforcement system that backs up the state AND federal constitutions, that it is stronger than those other two instruments and will succeed where they are failing.

    In the end, mere words on paper (or in a computer memory somewhere) will do nothing for you. The corrupt bastards now violating your rights are the ones who will be responsible for enforcing any new laws. I also point out that this proposed new law says no more about punishments for its violators than Article 1, Section 24 of the state constitution, or the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution. On the other hand, 18 USC 241 and 18 USC 242 are already law, they’re pretty clear about punishments for deprivations of rights, and no one is applying those either.

    Maybe we need an initiative that says 241 and 242 will be enforced at the state level, but again and again; those on whom we would be relying for enforcement are the very ones currently violating the hell out of both the U.S. And state constitutions.

    • I’d agree, but a lot of people (including cops) don’t have the attention span to follow a case-building project of the type you lay out. Pointing to a single law (based on those principles) that says explicitly “YO! Copper! Can’t touch that!” they can grasp reasonably quickly.
      In an emergency situation, quick and simple is good, rather than have them shoot you while you are “lawyering them.”

      • Article 1 sections 3 and 24 are pretty clear. I don’t know about building a case, but the law is quite clear, it’s being violated, and no one is being prosecuted for it.

        Making it “more illegaller” when it’s already clearly illegal is something we mock when Progressives do it. Isn’t it a bit like putting up a “gun free zone” sign and expecting robbers and murderers to obey it? “Sure; you’re violating our rights, and both the state and federal constitutions, and that’s all well and good, but now we’re going to make it illegal to violate our rights and the constitutions! (Though we won’t have any penalty provisions in it)”

        And who, ultimately, would be responsible for enforcing this initiative? The same people who are responsible for upholding the state constitution, and yet are not doing so?

        Sorry– I just don’t get one bit of it, but as I said; maybe I’m both ignorant and stupid.

        Similarly, we now have a sitting U.S. Attorney General who is officially in contempt of Congress, and it makes no difference to him or to anyone in Congress. So what happens when the state AG sees this new initiative and declares that it isn’t going to be enforced or even recognized, that it is unworkable, the result of a right wing tantrum, or better yet, says nothing and ignores it, nod-nod, wink-wink? Certainly the governor would be cool with that.

        OK, I’ll shut up. Just pretend I didn’t say anything.

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